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CRUZ releases birth certificate
Dallas Morning News ^ | 8-18-13 | Todd Gillman

Posted on 08/19/2013 6:05:19 AM PDT by praytell

WASHINGTON — Born in Canada to an American mother, Ted Cruz became an instant U.S. citizen. But under Canadian law, he also became a citizen of that country the moment he was born.

Unless the Texas Republican senator formally renounces that citizenship, he will remain a citizen of both countries, legal experts say.

That means he could assert the right to vote in Canada or even run for Parliament. On a lunch break from the U.S. Senate, he could head to the nearby embassy — the one flying a bright red maple leaf flag — pull out his Calgary, Alberta, birth certificate and obtain a passport.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: certificate; certifigate; coldcaseposse; congress; corruption; electionfraud; eligibility; govtabuse; mediabias; mikezullo; naturalborncanadian; naturalborncitizen; naturalborncuban; naturalbornsubject; obama; sheriffjoearpaio; teaparty; tedcruz; voterfraud
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Get this release out of the way. Releases birth certificate while the ONE keeps it fake and hidden.
1 posted on 08/19/2013 6:05:19 AM PDT by praytell
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To: praytell

But if Obama is not qualified because of dual citizenship then isn’t the same true for Cruz?


2 posted on 08/19/2013 6:07:46 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

Renounce and that solves it.


3 posted on 08/19/2013 6:12:59 AM PDT by praytell (Dear God, you already know what I'm praying for!!!!!)
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To: praytell

“Ted Cruz became an instant U.S. citizen.”

The author lied to the readers. Ted Cruz DID NOT immediately become a U.S. citizen at birth. His parents or he had to APPLY to the U.S. Secretary of State for approval of a request to claim U.S. citizenship. Consequently, Ted Cruz is a U.S. citizen upon approval of the U.S. State Department, and he is not a “naural born citizen” of the United States.


4 posted on 08/19/2013 6:13:13 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: WhiskeyX

Sorry but you are incorrect. Title 8 section 1401 subsection G clearly shows that Mr Cruz has US citizenship from birth. Thus he is a naturally born citizen and has never required naturalization.


5 posted on 08/19/2013 6:24:13 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: praytell

Why would he have to renounce his Canadian citizenship? He should run for president of both countries at the same time

:)


6 posted on 08/19/2013 6:24:35 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: praytell

He needs to release his college transcripts too. And while doing so, announce that he will keep no secrets from the American people...

Go suck on that Obama!


7 posted on 08/19/2013 6:28:10 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Everyone trying to make their “favorite candidate” fit the letter of the law is not my idea of “right”.

Two citizen parents who is born in the USA was the law until all the abstractions of McCain and Obama. ( I am not saying McCain was wrong, only that congress saw the need to clarify a citizen stationed on an official duty area. Now Obama is another problem entirely, as is Rubio.)

If the Constitution needs to be updated for the current qualifications there is a process to do that!


8 posted on 08/19/2013 6:29:43 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: praytell

Cruz just rolled a nice T**D on to the Table politic!


9 posted on 08/19/2013 6:30:47 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: praytell

Betcha Cruze’s certificate wasn’t photoshopped.

Unlike Quota baby’s.


10 posted on 08/19/2013 6:30:55 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Mr. K

You think out of the box. I like that.

Then again you might just be crazy. And I might be crazy for liking your idea.


11 posted on 08/19/2013 6:32:27 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Invade Canada!

Buy the t-shirt:

http://www.cafepress.com/mf/12830918/doot_tshirt


12 posted on 08/19/2013 6:36:31 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: taxcontrol

Wrong. Cruz is a statutory U.S. Citizen. He is not a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen eligible for the presidency. He father owed allegiance t a foreign sovereignty.

Representative John Bingham, the father of the 14th Amendment who was well aware of the founders original intent defined a natural born Citizen as this:

“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

A statutory citizen (bestowed by man’s pen) can never be a “natural born” citizen (bestowed by God/nature).


13 posted on 08/19/2013 6:38:20 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: WhiskeyX

Thank you for that succinctly stated view.

What do you believe the founders would say about the child of an English lord who had visited the U.S. a few years after its war with England (and its new Constitution) and sired the child by a U.S. citizen?


14 posted on 08/19/2013 6:39:05 AM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." This from a guy who never had a real job and his family starved.)
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To: Da Coyote

10-4 on that, rubber ducky. Over.


15 posted on 08/19/2013 6:39:33 AM PDT by praytell (Dear God, you already know what I'm praying for!!!!!)
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To: Jeff Winston; Lakeshark; Responsibility2nd

CruzToVictory ping.


16 posted on 08/19/2013 6:42:25 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Mr. K

Wouldn’t he also be a citizen of Cuba as well? He could be president of THREE COUNTRIES!...................


17 posted on 08/19/2013 6:42:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: praytell
Why the hell should he? Has Obama renounced his Kenyan citizenship or Indonesian citizenship?

Why does only our side have to play by the rules?

18 posted on 08/19/2013 6:44:21 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 0.E.O

Dual citizenship does not disqualify anyone for President.


19 posted on 08/19/2013 6:47:38 AM PDT by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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To: taxcontrol

Only if you conflate the terms Citizen and natural born Citizen.

The two terms are not equivalent, with respect to presidential eligibility.

The simple sentence construction the Founders used in Article II clearly demonstrates this fact.


20 posted on 08/19/2013 6:48:35 AM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: praytell

The media is already mounting its offensive against Cruz. That earns him my support.


21 posted on 08/19/2013 6:49:59 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: praytell

If Ted is smart, he will petition the SCOTUS to rule on his eligibility as a POTUS candidate.

I would bet that all four lib Justices vote to allow him to rum to protect Obama from post-2016 attacks on our 44th President.

Then, just one vote will allow Cruz. Any of the five other Justices simply needs to dislike Hillary! in order to define NBC.

I would be a lot that at least one Justice would prefer Cruz over HRC and would settle the issue.

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Now, I would prefer Palin run for Senator as part of a R takeover and she gets some resume-enhancing committee assignments.

So, who for VP? I think it needs to be a female to counter HRC. A non-Hispanic female with either superior governing skills or foreign affairs/security would probably neutralize many of the usually attacks on the R candidates.
Suggestions? I would rule out Condi Rice to avoid the Bush Derangement Syndrome from erupting.

Elaine Chao maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Chao


22 posted on 08/19/2013 6:50:38 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: WhiskeyX
This is the problem:

"Rafael Cruz, now a pastor in suburban Dallas, fled Cuba for Texas as a teen in 1957. He remained a Cuban citizen until he became a naturalized American in 2005."

Many Cubans kept thier citizenship with dream of returning home after Castro.

23 posted on 08/19/2013 6:50:48 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Sloth
Dual citizenship does not disqualify anyone for President.

One of the arguments that have been put forward as a reason why Obama is not Constitutionally qualified to be president is that dual citizenship negates natural born citizenship.

24 posted on 08/19/2013 6:51:14 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

Exactly so, and there are good reasons for this.

This, btw is what some of us brought up long ago. It’s good to see FR finally starting to catch up.


25 posted on 08/19/2013 6:52:31 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Mr. K

Bring on the North American Union!


26 posted on 08/19/2013 6:52:42 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 0.E.O

“But if Obama is not qualified because of dual citizenship then isn’t the same true for Cruz?”

Yes. Anyone who is claiming that Cruz is a natural born citizen is very dangerous to this country.


27 posted on 08/19/2013 6:54:25 AM PDT by Revel
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To: WhiskeyX

Wrong, I have nieces and nephews born in Canada, with an America and Canada parent at their birth, instantly, they had dual citizenship.


28 posted on 08/19/2013 6:54:53 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Red Badger
"Wouldn't he also be a citizen of Cuba as well? He could be president of THREE COUNTRIES!.................." And he would definitely be a "natural born citizen" of all of those countries right?! lol! I believe we are witnessing the purposeful destruction of the natural born clause. Obama was the start, if the very next president is not natural born I believe precedent will be set and it is bye bye to the natural born clause. And to top it all off, people claiming to be lovers of the United States constitution, are some of the ones screaming the loudest to kill the clause through electing a man who had at least divided loyalties at birth (they just dont seem to know it.... weird) Oh what strange times we live in......
29 posted on 08/19/2013 6:55:47 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: walkingdead

weird, that had paragraphs when I posted it..... sorry everyone.


30 posted on 08/19/2013 6:58:44 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Revel

My opinion is Marco Rubio is dangerous because he is a devout liberal democrat Amnesty supporter.

Cruz on the other hand is fantastic.


31 posted on 08/19/2013 7:00:26 AM PDT by o2bfree (Lindsey Graham is left of South Carolina.)
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To: praytell

They are very scared of Cruz, aren’t they?


32 posted on 08/19/2013 7:04:25 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: NOVACPA; taxcontrol

Please review this post and #13.

They seem to clearly state my understanding of the law. I can not find any other answer except people searching for the meaning of “IS”, Clinton Speak, that will allow their desired result in qualification for President.


33 posted on 08/19/2013 7:06:19 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: o2bfree

Marky is a little shit who owes me $150!


34 posted on 08/19/2013 7:09:34 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: o2bfree

Cruz could be the best guy in the world and it still does not make him eligible to be president.

BTW... Have you ever wondered why it is that every candidate choice put before you is inherently flawed. Either they are a wolf in sheep’s clothing or now they are not just normal US citizens born in the US to US parents. Is that really an accident?

And I think there is an intentional effort under way to destroy the natural born citizenship clause of the constitution. It is very inconvenient for the global power establishment.


35 posted on 08/19/2013 7:13:06 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Cowboy Bob

Bet he does...”release his college transcripts”


36 posted on 08/19/2013 7:21:52 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: taxcontrol
This issue of the definition of what constitutes a natural born citizen as provided in the Constitution to be eligible to be President has never been decided by the courts. Yes, Cruz is a citizen by birth but does he meet the criterion of naturally born.

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock

A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be genetically related to the child to transmit U.S. citizenship.

37 posted on 08/19/2013 7:28:35 AM PDT by kabar
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To: taxcontrol
This issue of the definition of what constitutes a natural born citizen as provided in the Constitution to be eligible to be President has never been decided by the courts. Yes, Cruz is a citizen by birth but does he meet the criterion of naturally born.

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock

A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be genetically related to the child to transmit U.S. citizenship.

38 posted on 08/19/2013 7:28:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: praytell

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39 posted on 08/19/2013 7:37:12 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: WhiskeyX

Wrong WhiskeyX

My son was born in The United Kingdom of American Parents. I did not have to file for citizenship for him. I had to file a CRBA “Consular Report of Birth Abroad” with the United States Embassy in London. My son was automatically a United States Citizen.

Link to details of CRBA for birth abroad. http://travel.state.gov/law/family_issues/birth/birth_593.html

He is also a citizen of the United Kingdom. I filed for and obtained a UK passport for him, and it was perfectly legal. My son can not be President of the United States as he is a dual national with dual allegiance. He can be President is he renounces his British Citizenship.

Ted Cruz can be President is he renounces his Canadian Citizenship. It would be very amusing if he has already done this and these attacks on him are moot.


40 posted on 08/19/2013 7:39:04 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: praytell

You mean he didn’t have to send lawyers to Canada to retrieve it? He actually has a copy of his own birth certificate?


41 posted on 08/19/2013 7:39:53 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: cpdiii

That is exactly what I was thinking. :) I will laugh when we find out he did so many years ago.

Obama, on the other had got free stuff for claiming citizenry from another country. THAT is the issue.

I think Obama denounced his American citizenship somewhere. I think THAT is what the cover up is about.


42 posted on 08/19/2013 7:43:19 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: praytell

‘What Difference Does It Make?’


43 posted on 08/19/2013 7:44:09 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: taxcontrol

Title 8 section 1401 subsection G is commonly referred to as The Immigration and Nationality Act. Ted Cruz would have to be an immigrant to the U.S. before title could apply to him. Congress does not have Constitutional authority to pass immigration and nationality legislation that applies to citizens at birth.

Congress has a Constitutional mandate to legislate rules and regulations with respect to aliens and immigrants who wish to become U.S. citizens. Consequently, Cruz had to be an immigrant before Title 8 could be applied to him.


44 posted on 08/19/2013 7:44:31 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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To: jersey117

Isnt that grand? No hiding. No cloak.


45 posted on 08/19/2013 7:47:36 AM PDT by praytell (Dear God, you already know what I'm praying for!!!!!)
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To: praytell

We need to scan Cruz’s birth certificate and see if it has layers and halos in it like Obbama’s that he released on April 27, 2011.


46 posted on 08/19/2013 7:48:47 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Baynative

For some reason, I’m laughing my self silly over this. Why did Ted choose to release his birth certificate at this particular time? Sounds like a game of chicken with the Won to me. Maybe he is trying to goad zero into coming clean - what’s next? I fully expect Ted to release his college transcripts too.

Sorry, this just tickles me.


47 posted on 08/19/2013 8:06:57 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Revel

Baloney! The people dangerous to this country are those now in control. You seem to have a warped sense of what’s good or bad for this country.


48 posted on 08/19/2013 8:09:12 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: taxcontrol
Sorry but you are incorrect. Title 8 section 1401 subsection G clearly shows that Mr Cruz has US citizenship from birth.

Once more, the meaning of "natural born citizen" was determined in 1787 not whenever title 8 was written. Title 8 has no impact on what the CONSTITUTION means.

You can't change the meaning of words AFTER THE FACT.

If Ted Cruz wouldn't be a "natural born citizen" in 1787, then he isn't one today.

49 posted on 08/19/2013 8:09:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: praytell

50 posted on 08/19/2013 8:14:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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