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RG3: Gay players should come out [NFL pro-sodomite QB claims to be Christian, but....]
Fox Sports ^ | 8/14/13

Posted on 08/14/2013 7:02:28 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

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To: SoFloFreeper

I have never liked football.

I just can’t stand to watch some guy bend over, while another goes up from behind and grabs his ball.


41 posted on 08/14/2013 7:56:01 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Nifster

Thank you!


42 posted on 08/14/2013 7:57:31 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Nifster

I read his comments quite differently. Who else ought to come out? Why stop at sodomites?


43 posted on 08/14/2013 7:57:44 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Nearly had coffee shoot through my nose. LOLs


44 posted on 08/14/2013 8:00:43 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: SoFloFreeper

RG3 comments are correct in the sense that we are all born into sin and homosexuality is no better or worse than any other sin. I am a Christian and I don’t have any issue with gays coming out in sports or anywhere else. Regardless of why they come out, the knowledge of who you are dealing with is beneficial to everyone for many reasons. As a conservative/libertarian, I also believe that people have the right to live as they please without interference as long as they bring no harm to anyone else. As for the gay political agenda, that is another thing altogether. That is something I find intolerable and repugnant.

No where in RG3’s comments do I see him embracing anyone. I think he statements were inartful at best.


45 posted on 08/14/2013 8:03:38 AM PDT by CityCenter (Pleading the 5th is just so 1972.)
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To: Nifster

Yes, I find it exceedingly harmful when those who claim to be Christians encourage the public acceptance of those who celebrate sinful behavior.

I feel compelled to condemn such notions, knowing that while I am not perfect, we need not wait for perfection to call out those who are breaching biblical standards.


46 posted on 08/14/2013 8:05:04 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: danamco

Joe Theisman redux? RGB3’s seasons/days are numbered in the NFL. His knees are a “prime target”.


47 posted on 08/14/2013 8:09:27 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: mbarker12474

The current gay agenda is not “Accept me as a fallen human being”, it is a very strident “Accept me and accept my sin”. Encouraging someone to “come out” is definitely implying an acceptance of their sin.

Christians are encouraged to confess their sins to one another SO THAT WE MAY PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER and encourage each other in FORSAKING THAT SIN! There is nothing biblical about confessing sin (coming out) in order that we may be accepted FOR OUR SIN.

I have had friends come to me and confess sin in their lives that I deplore, but I love them still - and I pray for them to OVERCOME THEIR SINS, and their desire is to be free from their sin. I have gone to a Christian brother and confessed sin I am struggling with - not to get reassurance that my sin is OK, but to get help in prayer and encouragement and accountability in the struggle.

Any gay player who publicly comes forward, asking for our prayers to help him overcome his acknowledged sin, will have my prayers and my support (and brother, he will need it). Any player who comes out holding his boyfriend’s hand, asking me to accept them and their sin will not have my support - I consider them an agent of the enemy in spreading the casual acceptance of open rebellion against God.


48 posted on 08/14/2013 8:10:07 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: carriage_hill

RGB3’s = RG3’s. Duh.


49 posted on 08/14/2013 8:11:00 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Here's the 'problem' RGIII ....

With respect to loving the sinner and hating the sin, which it indeed is called to do, what can it say to those who, in contempt of the saints who have fled their sins, declare their persons to be inseparable from the sin, identifying themselves with it—and then blame the Church for hating them as persons?

Read more: http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=26-04-003-e#ixzz2bxMJJCcV

50 posted on 08/14/2013 8:11:02 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: ScottinVA

How about he gets asked 10,000 questions a day and instead of dodging one he actually tried to answer? Let’s hope he never makes the rookie mistake of trying to be honest again. That’s the last thing we need.


51 posted on 08/14/2013 8:11:03 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

Amen
I wish I had been that far along in my Christian walk at that age but I was a Godless heathen


52 posted on 08/14/2013 8:11:37 AM PDT by winodog
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To: Pan_Yan

Let’s hope he keeps his messaging on the game. Even better.


53 posted on 08/14/2013 8:15:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: MissMagnolia

What is amazing to me is there are folks on this thread basically telling me I shouldn’t judge RG3....

Aren’t they judging ME by making that statement?


54 posted on 08/14/2013 8:15:36 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Nifster

>>He plays a game. He does not make policy.

What’s a role model?

>>Get over yourself

Say the Useful Idiot?


55 posted on 08/14/2013 8:16:23 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: GilesB

Well said, and I am sorry I didn’t make that clear.....


56 posted on 08/14/2013 8:16:56 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
" , , , all of us sin, so let's CELEBRATE that sin, instead of being ashamed of it, right, RG?"

Hey, wait a minute. I've heard that before.

“If you are a preacher of grace, then preach a true and not a fictitious grace; if grace is true, you must bear a TRUE AND NOT A FICTIOUS SIN. God does not save people who are ONLY FICTITIOUS SINNERS. BE A SINNER AND SIN BOLDLY,  but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly, for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here  we HAVE TO SIN.....It is enough that by the riches of God’s glory we have come to know the Lamb that takes away the sin of the world.  No sin will separate us from the Lamb, EVEN THOUGH WE COMMIT FORNICATION AND MURDER A THOUSAND TIMES A DAY...."
Martin Luther

The guy is just getting back to the basics of Protestant thought, that's all. He's probably part of the "emerging church" that claims to be returning to the "early church" as defined fifteen hundred years later by people like Luther and his buddy Phil.

If he uses all of Luther's methods he's thrown any books of the Bible than disagree with his views in the trashcan and therefore can "prove" that there's nothing in Scripture that condemns the behavior of queers.

It's another one of the "have your cake and eat it too" doctrines that have created tens of thousands of different churches each claiming to be the only real and true church.

Why should the "Church of Perverted Queers" be any different than all the other churches that interpret Scripture to suit themselves and excuse their favorite sin or sins?

He's not a bit worse than the people who wink at and ignore massive infanticide as long as it's done quietly with "contraceptives" instead of at those tacky abortion clinics.

57 posted on 08/14/2013 8:22:26 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Nifster
WRONG! The subject is the sin of homosexuality. He is encouraging the open practice of that sin and using the fallen nature of man to excuse it. It is no different from someone excusing adultery because someone else is a glutton. Each sin is sin. Pointing out sin in another person in no way excuses sin in ourselves or anybody else. As a matter of fact, pointing out sin in our own lives does nothing to address anybody else’s sins.

NO sin can be addressed if the answer to every question regarding sin is the equivocal, “everybody sins”.

You are taking the mote and beam passage completely out of context. Christ was talking about condemnation of a person for the mote, while the accuser has a beam in their own eye. He also tells us to try the spirits so that we know them - in this case, the spirit on trial is the spirit of open rebellion, that promotes the open practice of sinful behavior and demands acceptance for both the rebel sinner and his sin. It is not wrong for me, in my struggle with my own sin, to refuse to condone the sin of another.

However, sometimes it is wisdom to acknowledge that, because of our own present struggle with a particular sin, we are not properly equipped to counsel our brother in his struggle.

Furthermore, if I am accepting of and asking acceptance for my own sin (beam), then it is wrong to point out sin (mote) in anyone else. If I am struggling with my own sin, it is wrong to condemn another who is struggling with their sin. HOWEVER, just because I am struggling with my own sin, DOES NOT REQUIRE ME TO ENCOURAGE OR ACCEPT SIN IN OTHERS! In fact, I am still called to pray and encourage others to overcome their sin.

58 posted on 08/14/2013 8:29:50 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: SoFloFreeper

My view on it is, yes, I am a Christian, but to each his own

Well, that is interesting. Perhaps sir you could reference which sections in the Bible, you know, God’s Word, that Christians are to follow,explains the concept of to each his own..........


59 posted on 08/14/2013 8:33:47 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Nifster

He plays a game. He does not make policy. He is not on the supreme court or the president. He plays a GAME.

Get over yourself

Seeing that more young people will hang on his every word then that of the President or any Supreme Court ruling, maybe people should be concerned.......


60 posted on 08/14/2013 8:38:14 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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