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John McCain: Women should avoid military service until sexual misconduct crisis solved
NBC News ^ | June 4, 2013 | Bill Briggs

Posted on 06/05/2013 8:09:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every sane person in the United States predicted sexual chaos would result in the military social experiment involving women integrated with men. Now we have added Sodomites adding additional stress. Our military will break down in the near future. No sane male would join the current military ever.


21 posted on 06/05/2013 8:37:46 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look! The bottom line up front is the fact that gets drowned out in the talk about “the military” and that is we (the military) MUST take what society gives us.

Now, keeping in mind that people like mccain have tinkered with the “the standards” to the point that our standards have been lowered to accommodate all of the special interest groups that our so called elected officials MUST pander to.

So....the military is ripe with people that otherwise would not have been able to qualify for military service under our old more rigorous standards and therefore people that would commit rape/sexual assault would have not made it through the screening process.

So at the end of the day don’t blame us for the condition that society is in — We are only taking what society gives us and then society expects us to turn around their failure in 8 to 12 weeks — And we do TRY to turn them into Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines but occasionally a bad one gets through the cracks, because they have to, or else.

If we want to fix the military — Raise the entrance standards back UP to where they used to be, otherwise don’t be so appalled every time something like this happens.

Look at the country and see what kind of kids we are raising and then ask yourself — Is this the BEST that we have to offer our military to work with...think about this the next time you see a 17 year old male with is shoes untied, pants hanging down around the crack of his ass and sporting 13 tattoos...Is that the best the country can do — Because the military has to take them.


22 posted on 06/05/2013 8:39:06 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: 0.E.O
Who'd have ever thought it? I mean Men hitting on women? Who in the world ever saw that coming?

And no John. The “problem” has no solution. One quick fix tho would be keeping men and women separate and half-assed supervised when they must be in close contact.

23 posted on 06/05/2013 8:41:11 AM PDT by saleman
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To: Obadiah
Why does he feel like he always has to insert his opinion in EVERY matter?

I think he feels he owes it to society in general because, as he showed in his graduating class at Annapolis, there are actually five people in the world dumber than he is.

24 posted on 06/05/2013 8:43:16 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: saleman

Does McLame realize that after Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell was repealed that they all started Asking, Telling and Not taking NO for an answer?


25 posted on 06/05/2013 8:43:25 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: saleman
Who'd have ever thought it? I mean Men hitting on women? Who in the world ever saw that coming? And no John. The “problem” has no solution. One quick fix tho would be keeping men and women separate and half-assed supervised when they must be in close contact.

Actually there is a solution, better discipline. Discipline in the ranks is a shadow of what it used to be. Boot Camp has been replaced by Summer Camp. NCOs and Officers can't instill good order and discipline. The military are stocked with Gen-Xers who never had to follow rules at home, why should they be expected to do it in the ranks unless there are repercussions? Better leadership wouldn't hurt, either.

26 posted on 06/05/2013 8:50:20 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: miss marmelstein

Hello, I am Resolute and I am a currently against women in combat positions in the military.


27 posted on 06/05/2013 8:52:38 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Resolute Conservative
Actually, I like some of the “logic” in McCain's statement.

Except it should be applied to Hollywood.

Women and men should avoid Hollywood until the casting couch sexual misconduct crisis has been solved.

Darn sight worse than anything that happens in the military.

28 posted on 06/05/2013 8:57:40 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

We need to stand up to this political correctness. Sadly, we will be flamed because some freepers’ daughters serve in the military and they will turn it into something “personal.” Which it is not! I’m sorry but gay men and women do not belong in “combat positions.”


29 posted on 06/05/2013 9:02:47 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

I have been flamed before and I am sure I will be again. To my wife’s chagrin the older I get the less I care what anyone thinks and the more I say what I think in my outside voice while inside.


30 posted on 06/05/2013 9:06:13 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s so transparent. He wants to say women stay out period.

You’re dealing with a political correct animal here with McCain.

and by the way, if he’s so true, why allow the gay soldiers to rape other male soldiers who are not gay, John.


31 posted on 06/05/2013 9:10:41 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sexual ‘Misconduct’ McCain? It’s a FRIGGIN CRIME you ass- Also shoudl straight men avoid the service until the rampant crisis of crimes of homosexual rape agaisnt straight men are ‘cleared up’ too?


32 posted on 06/05/2013 9:15:40 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Women should avoid military service until Commander in Chief crisis solved.

There, fixed it


33 posted on 06/05/2013 9:18:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The MSM seeks him out for comments because he’s the kinda repub. they like.


34 posted on 06/05/2013 9:19:30 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McInsane: Let’s mix homosexuals and women into a male group and see if any sexual issues arise and if they do we’ll need to find a way to make it stop.


35 posted on 06/05/2013 9:26:04 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: miss marmelstein
Which it is not! I’m sorry but gay men and women do not belong in “combat positions."

In reply 29 you say you don't want women in "combat positions". In reply 17 you said you don't want them in the military at all. Which is it?

36 posted on 06/05/2013 9:26:39 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"What about all the homosexual assaults, Senator?"

Exactly: The military's homosexual assault epidemic that NOBODY DARES REPORT ON

Think about the math.

The MAJORITY of complaints are from MALES. Think about the numbers. Are the females in the military especially likely to abuse the males??? Women are only 20-25% of the military population, yet they account for the majority of complaints? Like 4X or 5X the rate going the other way? No way. This is about homosexual activity, and nobody dares to bring it up.

And men are unlikely to report such female on male inappropriateness in any case, because they don't feel all that threatened. In my own experiences at work (and there were a few), it was something to make a somewhat humorous disapproving remark about and move on ( like "kind of early in the day to turn into a barfly, honey").

37 posted on 06/05/2013 9:45:10 AM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: 0.E.O

Both!


38 posted on 06/05/2013 9:49:50 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I’ve been flamed on this issue, too. I’m sick of political correctness - it is killing our country.


39 posted on 06/05/2013 9:51:55 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So how is this social experiment working for us?


40 posted on 06/05/2013 10:05:04 AM PDT by JayAr36 (When an American dies Obama lies.)
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