Posted on 05/27/2013 9:02:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Members of GLAAD, a nonprofit organization that promotes LGBT advocacy, was at the Boy Scouts of America's headquarters in Irving, Texas, on Friday – one day after the BSA's national council voted to allow openly gay membership – to advocate for additional policy changes acceptable to the gay community.
Former scouts Dave and Joe McGrath, a father and son duo who both earned the rank of Eagle Scout, biked 1,400 miles from Idaho Falls, Idaho, to the BSA's meeting in Grapevine to encourage the 1,400 voting delegates of the BSA's national council to vote in favor of the resolution to allow openly gay scouts, which passed by a vote of 61 to 39 percent. The ban on openly gay adult leaders is still in place.
On Friday, GLAAD documented Dave McGrath's entry into BSA headquarters to meet with staff and to deliver the LGBT community's 95 objections to their policies. Among these objections is the BSA's standing policy that bans adults who are openly gay from becoming scout leaders and volunteers.
Both factions of the scouting community – the LGBT scouts and traditional scouts – agree that the BSA's policies are now in conflict, because it accepts openly gay membership of students, but when they turn 18, they would then be ineligible to participate as scout leaders.
Many say the BSA's only option is to ask the national council delegates to vote on additional policy changes, possibly as soon as next year, to allow openly gay adults to become scout leaders and volunteers.
During Thursday's press conference outside the BSA's convention at the Gaylord Texan, Tico Perez, BSA national commissioner, refused to answer questions about lifting the ban on openly gay adults.
The policy change for openly gay youth will go into effect on Jan. 1, 2014, and will impact 116,000 scouting units, according to the BSA.
In a statement released Thursday evening, the BSA reiterated its support for the LGBT community by stating they wouldn't allow the organization to be "consumed by a single, divisive and unresolved societal issue."
"As the National Executive Committee just completed a lengthy review process, there are no plans for further review on this matter," the statement reads. "While people have different opinions about this policy, we can all agree that kids are better off when they are in Scouting."
Justin Bickford, communications director for Scouts for Equality, told CP on Thursday that their next mission is to push for openly gay leadership in the BSA. Many traditional scout leaders contend that gay adults are already serving as scout leaders and are doing so with discretion. Their disagreement is with the perceived sexual advocacy among the few LGBT leaders who were asked to leave the BSA for promoting their agenda.
John Stemberger, the founder of OnMyHonor, a coalition of scout leaders and parents of Boy Scouts members, consistently reiterated that gay scouts and gay scout leaders were actively participating in the BSA before Thursday's vote, and said there was never a ban on homosexuals in the scouts. According to Stemberger, "the BSA has a nondiscrimination policy," and the ban was on "gay activism" and "flaunting sexuality."
"With great sorrow, this will be last time I wear this uniform," Stemberger, whose coalition opposed membership changes, announced Thursday evening during the OnMyHonor press conference. He said his role will be to facilitate the process of deciding where the newly displaced scouting community will go, after being exiled from the BSA.
Stemberger said his movement includes "tens of thousands of parents, scouts that are disillusioned, troops that are going to fold and chartering partners."
On his website, OnMyHonor.Net, Stemberger has announced a June coalition meeting in Louisville, Ky., to "discuss the creation of a new character development organization for boys. We will host a national coalition meeting of former BSA parents and youth leaders who wish to return to timeless values that once made the BSA great."
Elizabeth Pritchard, the pack committee chair for Pack 928 in Southlake, Texas, told CP that she's been calling the American Heritage Girls to ask if they plan to start a program for boys. One program that has been announced is FaithBasedBoys.org, a newly created interdenominational organization for boys 5 to 18, that is scheduled to launch in the fall, and will receive guidance from American Heritage Girls.
Others who are departing the BSA en masse are waiting to see if the Royal Ambassadors, a Southern Baptist missions organization for boys in first through sixth grades, will be expanding their program to include the estimated 200,000 to 400,000 scouts who will be leaving the BSA.
You response implies that the Mormons support homosexuality. Do you have more information? This has significant implications if it is true.
Openly gay scount leaders will have very small packs and troops.
FWIW, I think if we step back a bit and look at it, we see that they yielded. Ultimately their worldview is based in the view of the spirits they are buying into. And as the Mittster himself showed, these spirits can willingly enable homosexual conduct while pretending on some other plane not to.
That’s what happened. If there are people there in the Mormon church who still have a conscience problem with that, then they should look to the source of the conscience, which is the actual almighty God.
I knew that was coming. When you appease the left, they don’t go away. They’re like a shark. If you give a shark your hand, it won’t be satisfied. It will come back for your leg.
In this case, the camel is more like a Trojan Horse. Passing through the Eye of the Needle (yes, it is an actual place) was a reference to one of wealth who has his life consumed with the Earthly pursuits instead of God.
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That was my question.
Very interesting.
Spot on! You made a major contribution.
Rich means your attitude towards your nominal earthly possessions. If you allow demons to get a foothold in them and you get transfixed by those demons, that turns them into idols, and you are “rich” in the sense the passage intends. This is not an unforgivable situation. It can be repented, and the possessions once more yielded to the Lord. Some talk about a gate referred to as the eye of the needle where a camel would need to be unloaded and would have to be crawled through. That would be apropos. I can’t vouch whether or not it was the original intended reference (though leaning towards holding it as plausible).
I don’t think she said anything untrue. Let’s watch how our eyes are directed, though. These same devils are vying to transfix us, too, and make us shortsighted as to how to fight for the Lord. The Lord isn’t there as chiefly some cosmic authorizer of hit men. He is there to get us into His heaven and the fighting is an aspect of the work which we ourselves do as we approach heaven filled up with the Spirit’s power.
When do they change the name to “LGBT Scouts of America”?
Can’t wait to hear about the new patches that will be coming out.
We knew it was coming but that was fast.
RE: Where’s NAMBLA?
I wonder if NAMBLA and GLAAD have some sort of relationship...
It ought to interest any Mormon who sincerely cares about God.
It’s time for Scouts to take the advice of the Ahnold from Terminator II:
“Get.Out.”
It would be more puzzling if they didn’t have a common backing.
If this change in the BSA is the result of LDS capitulation to the homosexual extremists, they bear the full responsibility if this organization if destroyed. No parent is going to spend all that money (which is a major financial expense) to support a child in Boy Scouts only to have open homosexuality perverting them. I expect parents will be giving the final answer on this change of policy by withdrawing their boys and financial support from this sullied organization.
If the LDS people are reading this, I hope you start demanding answers from those responsible for this change in policy.
There were a lot of earthly fingers in this unholy pie, but ultimately the same devil.
But yes I hope the Mormon participation in it might serve as an alert to Mormons who are serious about God, that there’s a spirit here they don’t want. And either try to drive it out of their organization (a kind of Mormon Wittenberg Door) or go elsewhere to worship where it isn’t present.
Another thing might be a parental siege of the leadership to fix the error. BSA was viable with a DADT policy. Gay will pick it to pieces.
“. . .which has always been extremely evil in pre-Vatican II America with a true understanding of Christianity. . .”
“. . .Spot on! You made a major contribution.”
To what?the inevitable eventual anti Catholic hatred on FR?
Take a lesson from the French marching in the hundreds of thousands against this cultural travesty. Do that and then see if you can come back against the church. You couldn’t because you would meet thousands of practicing knowledgeable Catholics.
Read the encyclicals, “Human Sexuality and Marriage”, and “Humanae Vitae”, both written by Popes and their staffs and both are post Vatican II, whatever that means to you. They both renounce the rampant illicit sexual mores and both are prophetic in their findings and are both, along with all Catholic teaching, charitable but firm in denunciation of practicing the act of homosexuality.
What do you want, Pope Francis to goose step and others to line up and scream?
It’s up to people to get these things done. We are a government by the people. If we don’t want big government nor interference by churches, or institutions that call themselves churches but aren’t, then we have to do something. Now you want the Church to do something? They’ve said the practice of homosexuality is bad and evil. So read that and go out and stop the open practice of homosexuality. But keep your hatred of the Church out of this.
Or read about what you are criticizing.
There is NOTHING in the Catholic Church which promotes homosexuality.
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