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Transcript of Lois Lerner’s Remarks at Tax Meeting Sparking IRS Controversy
Election Law Blogs ^ | May 11, 2013 | By Rick Hasen

Posted on 05/11/2013 11:52:39 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

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1 posted on 05/11/2013 11:52:39 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It bothers me...there was a standard procedure, and standard marks to make....and they simply went the other direction...inventing as they went along. That’s never a dependable method to handling business.

Whoever made the management decision....needs to either be disciplined (suspended for 90 days), or just let go. It would be curious if they consulted DC...asked for advice, and who gave it.


2 posted on 05/11/2013 12:01:31 PM PDT by pepsionice
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Employees of the IRS belong to the National Treasury Employees Union

And what are NTEU’s political leanings? Let’s look at 2012 donations to Federal Candidates

House
Total to Democrats: $391K
Total to Republicans: $23K

Senate
Total to Democrats: $157K
Total to Republicans: $1K


3 posted on 05/11/2013 12:06:05 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: pepsionice

exempt organizations in IRS is kind of a dumping ground.

Maybe they did centralize it for the reasons stated. Giving them the reason of doubt, I would like to know what were the names used to select organizations for review: was it just Tea Party or Patriot. Were they any other’s like central committee or democrats for action or some such? My guess is NADA. This was aimed at the tea party as it was an anti tax group, and Patriots because they were viewed as anti Obama no matter what the IRS says now. Asking for a list of donors, why? You would do that AFTER deciding the organizations were tax scams, not to find out if they were such. No, this was a political operation, nothing else no matter how much obfuscation they put on it.


4 posted on 05/11/2013 12:09:12 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: PGR88

That needs to be spread everywhere.


5 posted on 05/11/2013 12:12:27 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

someone needs to post the nbr of LIB 501s...I’ll bet conserv 501s pale in comparison


6 posted on 05/11/2013 12:21:00 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: PGR88

This is important data and would be relevant to whichever Congressional body investigates this scandal.


7 posted on 05/11/2013 12:21:22 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: pepsionice
They didn’t do this because of any political bias.

What b@lls!

Mark Levin read a dozen or so of the special questions just for Tea Party groups. They did what they were designed to do, intimidate grass roots conservative groups from forming. That is abuse of power many times over.

One of the Articles of Impeachment ready for Richard Nixon was IRS abuse of political opponents.

8 posted on 05/11/2013 12:21:45 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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[It would be curious if they consulted DC...asked for advice, and who gave it.]

It's possible they were working with one of the left-wing PACs or with the DNC. If Lois Lerner was willing to talk openly about this aberration there may be some lower-level personnel who didn't agree with the tactics and are willing to talk under oath.

9 posted on 05/11/2013 12:27:52 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Was this statement scrubbed twelve times before release?


10 posted on 05/11/2013 12:34:16 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Brad from Tennessee

My other thought on this - is it a coincidence that this IRS voter-suppression scheme occurred in Ohio, which has been considered the most important swing-state in the last 2 Presidential elections?


11 posted on 05/11/2013 12:36:07 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Brad from Tennessee
I want the demographics of that unit in Cleveland. I suspect that it's more than 50% black, and inferences can definitely be drawn from that alone.

Then the records of those individuals should be checked for political contributions, and political activity.

If I'm wrong, I'll apologize...

...to JimRob, maybe.

12 posted on 05/11/2013 12:42:45 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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If you were not targeting people or groups based on their political views, then how the heck did I receive tax penalty letters dated 4-5 days in the future ? On a date that happened to be my birthday. How can the IRS send out letters dated in the future ? Is that also part of your normal procedures ?


13 posted on 05/11/2013 12:58:57 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Night Hides Not
The IRS unit was asking for donor names which, according to Lerner, is irrelevent to the process. It may be these names were forwarded to another division for audits, to Homeland Security for potential civil disturbance scrutiny, or to a dirty tricks wing of one of Obama’s PAC’s. It will probably take a special prosecutor to penetrate this scandal.
14 posted on 05/11/2013 1:01:14 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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This is an incredible pile of BS. He is not apologizing for targeting conservative groups. He is saying they should not trigger based on certain names. What? So now the instructions will be to not target on specific names just target based on conservative sounding names and then find out everything you can on their members.

He needs to explain why they think they need all that information?


15 posted on 05/11/2013 1:05:30 PM PDT by plain talk
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This explanation rings like the conclusion of an episode of Scooby Doo, where the ghosts weren’t really ghosts but malefactors cleverly shining a flashlight through a mop, the bookcase was really a secret passage to the garage, and the gang reveals that the scary zombie was, as the mask is ripped away, not a zombie at all but the chief of police.


16 posted on 05/11/2013 1:21:11 PM PDT by Gefreiter (Do your job, hump your load, don't whine, and the world will be a better place.)
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FWIW, “IRS” was a term trending on Twitter yesterday. Worldwide. This IRS corruption is big news. Also, it was the first news story on the CBS radio news updates on the hour during rush hour last night...


17 posted on 05/11/2013 1:25:19 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The irs should send every organization that was targeted $50,000, then dissolve itself.


18 posted on 05/11/2013 1:34:31 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I think Lois Lerner talked - but they all knew. Maybe she’s one of the few honest people ....


19 posted on 05/11/2013 2:17:56 PM PDT by GOPJ ( A gang rape by Eight isn't 'immigration reform'... Send the millions of illegals home.)
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To: PGR88

I know I guy who’s been in senior leadership of a government union. When I talk to him, I usually work around to Chained CPI or Sequestration. For some reason, he doesn’t like talking about either of them.


20 posted on 05/11/2013 4:14:23 PM PDT by PAR35
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