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Dershowitz: Ted Cruz one of Harvard Laws smartest students
Daily Caller ^ | 5/9/13 | Charles C. Johnson

Posted on 05/09/2013 7:44:25 PM PDT by Nachum

Famed Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz ranks Sen. Ted Cruz among the school’s smartest students, adding that the Canada-born Texan can run for president in 2016.

Cruz was a “terrific student,” Dershowitz told The Daily Caller. “He was always very active in class, presenting a libertarian point of view. He didn’t strike me as a social conservative, more of a libertarian.”

“He had brilliant insights and he was clearly among the top students, as revealed by his class responses,” Dershowitz added.

Dershowitz also gave a high estimate of Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren — who has decidedly different political views than Cruz.

Dershowitz says he and Cruz would often debate issues presented in Dershowitz’s criminal law class. “Cruz’s views were always thoughtful and his responses were interesting,” the law professor explained. “I obviously disagreed with them and we had good arguments in class. I would challenge him and he would come up with very good responses.”

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TOPICS: Canada; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alandershowitz; canada; cruz; dershowitz; elizabethwarren; harvard; massachusetts; naturalborncitizen; newyork; smartest; tedcruz; texas
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1 posted on 05/09/2013 7:44:25 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

But he’ll never beat out barry.


2 posted on 05/09/2013 7:47:16 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Nachum

Dershowitz wouldn’t say this if it wasn’t true.
He’s a FLAMING lib after all.


3 posted on 05/09/2013 7:48:53 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: Nachum

Canadian and Cuban citizen Rafael Edward Cruz.


4 posted on 05/09/2013 7:49:52 PM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: bigheadfred
Nobody beats out dear leader. He had a brightness contest with the sun and came in 1st place.

My democrat neighbor assures me this is true.

5 posted on 05/09/2013 7:49:58 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: ObligedFriend

American citizen.


6 posted on 05/09/2013 7:52:33 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Nachum
"...the Canada-born Texan can run for president in 2016."

He shouldn't, as he wasn't actually born in this country, but who cares what the Framers said anyway?

And no, I don't want to argue about it. I'm blue in the face from the last four years of that.

7 posted on 05/09/2013 7:53:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nachum

IT’S Called “HAVING A BACKBONE”


8 posted on 05/09/2013 7:53:15 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Oh I believe it too he is soooo egocentric.


9 posted on 05/09/2013 7:54:04 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Nachum; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; ...
That’s the thing I noticed.

The GOP has plenty of:
sellouts
closet Dems
Windbags,
idiots

But Cruz is a conservative who attacks brilliant. He doesn’t just make noise, he goes for the libs jugular. He is their worst nightmare. He is what I been asking for in my comments here for a long time, a very smart and tough fighter to make my day (better)

10 posted on 05/09/2013 7:54:46 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“American citizen” is not the constitutional qualification to hold the office of president in the United States.


11 posted on 05/09/2013 7:56:15 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina

I know, but Cruz is an American citizen, not a Cuban or Canandian citizen.


12 posted on 05/09/2013 7:58:40 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Nachum

actually a pragmatic libertarian would not be a bad choice for the pubs in the next election. I have trashed them as much as anyone but only because of the rules-based dogma espoused by people like Ron Paul on foreign policy & 9/11. I could accept a libertarian with rational foreign policy views.


13 posted on 05/09/2013 7:58:56 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

At the time of his birth Rafael was not an American. Rafael Edward Cruz is an ambitious foreigner.


14 posted on 05/09/2013 8:01:14 PM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I’m not going to get into a big debate, but the requirement for President and VP, of course, is that he must be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. That has long been understood to mean a child of two American citizen parents born on American soil/territory. Neither Cruz nor Rubio qualifies as a natural born American citizen.


15 posted on 05/09/2013 8:03:23 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: ObligedFriend

LOL.
You’re a broken record.


16 posted on 05/09/2013 8:04:28 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: ObligedFriend

Thanks for your opinion of Ted Cruz.

Sort of new hear aren’t you?

Just saying.


17 posted on 05/09/2013 8:04:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: ObligedFriend

Canadian and Cuban citizen Rafael Edward Cruz.
*****************************************************
I hope you’re not here to focus on trying to destroy the true conservatives in the Republican party.

I noticed your FR join date is March 15, 2013—Mama always warned be about the Ides of March. Betrayal comes in many forms.


18 posted on 05/09/2013 8:05:00 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: ObligedFriend

“Canadian and Cuban citizen Rafael Edward Cruz.”

You joined FR on March 15. Do you have a problem with Cruz? Maybe you would be happier on a liberal Democrat forum where you could dump on Cruz every day.


19 posted on 05/09/2013 8:05:18 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: ObligedFriend
An ambitious foreigner???

Tell who you like.

20 posted on 05/09/2013 8:06:45 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: WXRGina

Neither does Obama. Its extremely tempting to say whats good for the goose is good for the gander.


21 posted on 05/09/2013 8:08:55 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: onyx
“You’re a broken record.”

He joined March 15. I predict he won't be around long. IBTZ, whenever it happens. Mark this one on your calendar.

22 posted on 05/09/2013 8:09:55 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: onyx; ObligedFriend
You’re a broken record.

S/he sure is for such a new one, kinda scratchy screechy. LOL!

23 posted on 05/09/2013 8:12:53 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Of course Obama doesn’t qualify of his father is who he claims! Many of us, including me, have been screaming that fact from the rooftops since BEFORE the 2008 elections!


24 posted on 05/09/2013 8:13:30 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina

Should be, “IF his father is who he claims...”

Proof reading is always our friend.


25 posted on 05/09/2013 8:15:21 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina
The Courts will toss out any "NBC"/Birther challenge to a Cruz POTUS bid faster than you can say "Oooh, pretty Venn diagram!"

Cruz should run.

26 posted on 05/09/2013 8:16:10 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: ObligedFriend

Did he hold either a Canadian or Cuban passport? Did he undergo a naturalization process to become an American citizen? If the answer is NO (which it is) then he is a natural born citizen.


27 posted on 05/09/2013 8:17:01 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: ObligedFriend

ObligedFriend
Since Mar 15, 2013

Do you like movies about Gladiators?


28 posted on 05/09/2013 8:17:26 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Nachum

Unlike the current President whom I doubt could pass anything without cheating, lying, or changing the books.


29 posted on 05/09/2013 8:18:11 PM PDT by madison10
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To: WXRGina

Not according to anyone who has studied con law.


30 posted on 05/09/2013 8:18:46 PM PDT by HawkHogan
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To: Gator113

31 posted on 05/09/2013 8:18:59 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: ObligedFriend

He was definitely an American. His mother was an American of sufficient age to pass on citizenship at the time of his birth, even though his father was not a citizen and they were on foreign soil.

Natural born citizen is, however, a different matter.


32 posted on 05/09/2013 8:22:20 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: jazusamo

^5


33 posted on 05/09/2013 8:23:20 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Nachum

Not the least bit surprising. Ted Cruz is as sharp as a scalpel.


34 posted on 05/09/2013 8:23:34 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: HawkHogan

Hawk, that’s bunk.

The Founders made a distinction between the requirements for senators and representatives (citizens) and president and vice-president (natural born citizen). They did this for a very distinct and important reason—to prevent someone with dual or duplicitous loyalties from assuming the office of president.

If you or anyone else doesn’t like the Constitution, convene a convention and change it (which would be a very, very bad idea). It says what it says, and natural born citizen means the same thing now as it did when the Founders wrote it in our Constitution, regardless of how many people choose to ignore, deny or pervert its meaning.


35 posted on 05/09/2013 8:26:09 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: ObligedFriend
WAITE, C.J., Opinion of the Court

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

88 U.S. 162

Minor v. Happersett

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_ZO.html

Additions might always be made to the citizenship of the United States in two ways: first, by birth, and second, by naturalization. This is apparent from the Constitution itself, for it provides [n6] that "no person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President," [n7] and that Congress shall have power "to establish a uniform rule of naturalization." Thus new citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization.

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens. The words “all children” are certainly as comprehensive, when used in this connection, as “all persons,” and if females are included in the last they must be in the first. That they are included in the last is not denied. In fact the whole argument of the plaintiffs proceeds upon that idea.

36 posted on 05/09/2013 8:28:37 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: 9YearLurker

Cruz and Obama were born foreigners. The country of the father is that of the son.

It was always thus.


37 posted on 05/09/2013 8:31:17 PM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: TigersEye
Indeed! Cruz could neuter a lib-rat before the lib-rat realized anything was missing.
38 posted on 05/09/2013 8:31:45 PM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Just because Rafael Cruz speaks a message that is sweet to the ears of some Conservatives it does not change the fact he was born a Canadian and a Cuban.


39 posted on 05/09/2013 8:39:08 PM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: JPG

(snip) LOL


40 posted on 05/09/2013 8:40:11 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: ObligedFriend
You have quite an interesting posting history.
41 posted on 05/09/2013 8:42:05 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Nachum

42 posted on 05/09/2013 8:43:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: ObligedFriend
His mother was an American citizen. His father was Cuban. There is no Canadian citizenship involved here.

And what exactly do you mean "sweet to SOME conservatives"? You don't like what he has to say? What issues do you disagree with him on?

I ask again, who do you like?

43 posted on 05/09/2013 8:45:45 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Lou Budvis

Rafael Cruz and Barack Obama are not natural born citizens. This is a fact.

There’s only one way to save the Republic. Return to the 1787 Constitution and the Bill of Rights.


44 posted on 05/09/2013 8:48:19 PM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: Nachum
adding that the Canada-born Texan can run for president in 2016

Once upon a time that would have been a non- sequitur. But that was back when we followed the Constitution.

45 posted on 05/09/2013 8:49:56 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: ObligedFriend
It is more complicated than that.

See this table.

http://www.grasmick.com/citizen.htm#CITIZENSHIP%20FROM

Citizenship From Citizen Parent When Born Outside The U.S.

Your Date Of Birth Citizen Parent Residence Required Of Your Parent Residence Required Of You
Before 05-24-34 Both 1 parent resided in U.S. None
Only 1 USC parent resided in U.S. prior to your birth for one or more periods of time totaling at least 1 year None
On/after 05-24-34 and before 01-13-41 Both 1 parent resided in U.S. None
Only 1 USC parent resided in U.S. 2 yrs physical U.S. presence between ages 14-28**
--or--
5 yrs U.S. residence between ages 13-21**
On/after 01-13-41 and before 12-24-52 Both 1 parent resided in U.S. None
Only 1 USC parent resided in U.S. 10 yrs, at least 5 after parent's age 16. 2 yrs physical U.S. presence between ages 14-28, except if born 10/10/52 or after **
--or--
5 yrs U.S. residence between 13-21 yrs.**
On/after 12-24-52 and before 11-14-86 Both 1 parent resided in U.S. None
Only 1 USC parent with 10 yrs physical presence in U.S. prior to your birth, at least 5 yrs. after parent's age 14 None
On/after 11-14-86 Both 1 parent resided in U.S. None
Only 1 USC parent physically present in U.S. 5 yrs, at least 2 yrs. after parent's age 14 None
Children under age 18 may qualify for automatic or expedited naturalization if they have at least 1 USC parent. This can eliminate green card residency and physical presence requirements. It may eliminate the green card requirement itself. Automatic: Child has a green card. Expedited: Child has USC parent or grandparent who has been physically present in the U.S. for 5 years, 2 which were after parent's or grandparent's age 14.
** Residence of the child is no longer required. If a child lost citizenship by not meeting the residency requirement, the child can reinstate citizenship. However, children who reinstate citizenship cannot pass citizenship on to their children born after citizenship was lost.
*Data obtained from C. Gordon and S. Mailman, Immigration Law and Practice [Appendix A, A.1 (a)] and U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual, Vol.8, Exhibit 214.1, 1967, and updated by Joseph Grasmick, Esq.

46 posted on 05/09/2013 8:50:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: ObligedFriend

And that table only applies to “US Citizenship” not “Natural Born Citizenship”.


47 posted on 05/09/2013 8:52:18 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: TigersEye

A gift for you.

http://www.consource.org/document/jasper-yeates-notes-of-the-pennsylvania-ratification-convention-1787-12-5/


48 posted on 05/09/2013 8:52:32 PM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: ObligedFriend

I don’t accept gifts from trolls.


49 posted on 05/09/2013 8:53:45 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: House Atreides
I noticed your FR join date is March 15, 2013—Mama always warned be about the Ides of March.

Hey! That's my birthday you're talking about, thank you very much!

50 posted on 05/09/2013 9:00:03 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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