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John Maynard Keynes had it all wrong because he was gay and childless says Harvard professor
dailymail.co.uk ^ | May 4, 2013

Posted on 05/04/2013 7:07:00 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

A Harvard professor took to the podium at a finance conference Friday and called major influencer of modern economics John Maynard Keynes wrong about his philosophies because he was gay and childless.

During a question and answer session in Carlsbad, California, well-known historian Niall Ferguson was asked how he felt about the theories of English economist John Maynard Keynes versus those of Edmund Burke.

What the prominent Obama critic said in response hushed the crowd of over 500.

According to Tom Kostigen, editor-at-large of Financial Advisor magazine, Ferguson made it clear that he believed Keynes was uninterested in the what was good for society, basically because of his sexual orientation.

‘Ferguson asked the audience how many children Keynes had,’ wrote Kostigen in Financial Advisor. ‘He explained that Keynes had none because he was a homosexual and was married to a ballerina, with whom he likely talked of "poetry" rather than procreated.’

Kostigen said many of the audience members took offense at the remark, but that Ferguson continued.

‘Ferguson, author of The Great Degeneration: How Institutions Decay and Economies Die,' wrote Kostigen, ‘says it's only logical that Keynes would take this selfish worldview because he was an "effete" member of society.’

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To: Jim Noble
"in the long run, we're all dead"

--and those who raise kids never say that because their "we" is not just them but rather the entire human race. 

It's a mindset that's basically impossible to share.  Like the wife & I were telling the embarrassed mother of a crying toddler on the plane, "to other passengers who're parents no explanation was necessary, and to the non-parents no explanation was possible".

This is also why the state must favor only normal families; it's because they not only provide for a continuing population but their attitude represents the foundation for sustainable nation.

81 posted on 05/05/2013 6:24:32 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Jim Noble

 

82 posted on 05/05/2013 6:26:50 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: P.O.E.
And Keynes was touting Eugenics in the very same time-frame when Nazis were trumpeting that "extinction is the engine of evolution" and applying that to the genocide of whole disfavored peoples. Rudolph Hess, Hitler's deputy, summarized the matter by saying, "Nazism is applied biology."

Their disciples walk among us today.

83 posted on 05/05/2013 6:52:04 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He will come on that Day to judge the living and the dead, and the world by fire.")
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To: erlayman

Agreed. I wasn’t suggesting that gays “were somehow more invulnerable to losing everything” than the other “demographics”. My other posts suggest that there IS an overlapping set of demographics that have very real effects
on such practical things as the results of Presidential elections, specifically the first and second terms of Barack Obama, who is leading us more quickly and inexorably into
that state of economic disaster you mention than Romney ever would have.


84 posted on 05/05/2013 9:13:30 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: supremedoctrine

I am not in favor of same sex marriage or certainly Obama but over a third of the tiny base of gays do vote Republican. And a number of homosexual Republicans or conservatives will often make libertarian arguments when writing about LGBT rights. They are about free enterprise and self-reliance because they have had to be to survive historically. The larger point is that marriage-absence and uncontrollable deficit spending are the inseparable problems bankrupting the country, neither of which can be in any way laid at the feet of gays.


85 posted on 05/05/2013 9:57:14 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: Cicero

Of course, but there’s always some tricky rhetorical footwork
at play here: the various demographics including homosexuals, who support Obama, and his thoroughly reckless policies unconcerned about repercussions lying in wait in the future, would argue that THEY are the ones who are thinking of and planning for the REAL future we will all share in. You know, the one with all that wonderful green energy,TRUE energy independence, Islam becoming democracy, windmills, electric cars, no fracking, no oil pipelines or shale exploration,etc. etc.


86 posted on 05/05/2013 10:12:06 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: erlayman

Homosexuality is a terminal destination for those reprobates who profess to become wise but become fools worshiping the creature more than the creator. You are right if you believe that the same root sin causes us “good Republicans” to hypocritically enslave and/or sacrifice our children and bury under them mountains of debt.


87 posted on 05/05/2013 10:44:49 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: freedomfiter2

There is zero negative correlation to your belief. Economics are just not related to sexuality.


88 posted on 05/05/2013 12:44:41 PM PDT by sakic
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To: Tailgunner Joe

On a related note, from Johan Goldberg at NRO:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/347409/re-keynes-was-gay-not-theres-anything-wrong


89 posted on 05/05/2013 12:53:42 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“In the long run we’re all dead.”

Keynes, when asked how long his policies of piling up debt could last.


90 posted on 05/05/2013 1:16:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: princeofdarkness
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an ex-muzzie but apparently she is very anti-Christian.

Um, no. She may not believe in Christianity or in your ideas about Christianity, but she is not "very anti-Christian."

91 posted on 05/05/2013 1:40:29 PM PDT by x
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To: Tailgunner Joe
That's not a new perception. It's been said for years.

Keynes's whole environment -- Bloomsbury -- was shaped by homosexuality. The question would be how much of his outlook came from his own homosexuality, how much from Bloomsbury, and how much from other sources.

And of course, many heterosexuals have similar indifference to the future, and that cuts across political lines (think of deficits, for example).

92 posted on 05/05/2013 1:46:02 PM PDT by x
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To: nickcarraway

Yeah, from what I know about the whole spectrum of British arts and culture throughout the entire 20th century, there DOES seem to be a preponderance of homosexuality, and other
forms of perversity running through it—not just talking about Oscar Wilde and “The Other Victorians” as described in a great study by Steven Marcus 40 yrs. ago. Check out the hidden history of Eric Gill, prominent printer/graphic designer/artist decades ago in Britain, flagrant flamboyant
exhibitionism, right up to an including Bestiality.Most of
what we associate with the standard British typography/signage/font styles in the UK for the last 80 years or so came from Eric Gill.


93 posted on 05/05/2013 1:52:57 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: sakic
"Economics are just not related to sexuality."

What exactly is economics related to then? Is it perspective? Is it experiences? Is it related to a particular world view? What exactly? Also, is it true that sexuality can inhibit certain biases in relation to perspective, experience, and a particular world view?

The Creator warned of troubles that beset the human mind when one turns against order and harmony. Thinking that a government entity can run up deficits when times are lean (Easy part), then pay off those debts when times are booming is certainly playing with fire.
94 posted on 05/05/2013 2:09:54 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: x; cynwoody

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/015947.html

The late Lawrence Auster’s blog.


95 posted on 05/05/2013 2:39:28 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (The GOP is the present version of 1940 France and it will only get worse.)
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To: sakic

Economics are just not related to sexuality.

The discussion isn’t about sexuality, it’s about people who have no progeny having a short term worldview.


96 posted on 05/05/2013 2:54:40 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Thanks for the ping!


97 posted on 05/05/2013 3:27:11 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: princeofdarkness
Interesting. From Auster's Wikipedia entry:

Auster wrote, "I have always called myself a racialist, which to me means two things. First, as a general proposition, I think that race matters in all kinds of ways. Second, I care about the white race. It is the source of and is inseparable from everything we are, everything we have, and everything our civilization has achieved."[10]

Here is Hirsi Ali herself on Christianity:

www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/02/05/ayaan-hirsi-ali-the-global-war-on-christians-in-the-muslim-world.html

98 posted on 05/05/2013 4:00:13 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: freedomfiter2

Really? So couples without kids don’t care about the future? That is your belief?


99 posted on 05/05/2013 9:35:03 PM PDT by sakic
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Interesting Keynes passage noted by Ann Althouse on her blog.


100 posted on 05/05/2013 11:34:46 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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