Skip to comments.Sci-fi Worthy of Malthus
Posted on 05/01/2013 7:18:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
In the new sci-fi movie "Oblivion," Earth's most precious resource is Tom Cruise. But running a close second (spoiler alert) is water. Aliens want it. All of it.
This is old hat, science fiction-wise. In "The War of the Worlds," H.G. Wells had Martians coming to Earth to quench their thirst. The extraterrestrial lizards (cleverly disguised as human catalog models) in the 1980s TV series "V" came here to steal our water too -- though they wanted it in part to wash down the meal they intended to make of us. In the more recent "Battle: Los Angeles," pillaging Earth's oceans was the only motivation we're given for why aliens were laying waste to humanity.
The first problem with this plot device is that it's pretty dumb. Hydrogen and oxygen are two of the most common elements in the universe. An alien race is savvy enough to master interstellar travel but too clueless to combine two Hs with one O to form H2O? C'mon.
At least in "Mars Needs Women," the precious resource in question -- Earth girls -- by definition can be found only here, just as "real" Champagne must come from the region that bears its name. And though I have no doubt that Earth women really are the best, the logic of evolution suggests that compatibility issues for aliens would be a hurdle not even Match.com could overcome.
In "To Serve Man," the famous "Twilight Zone" episode, the motivation was far more plausible: They wanted to eat us ("To Serve Man" -- it's a cookbook!). And who knows -- maybe we're delicious.
One rule of thumb in sci-fi is that the aliens are really us too. They reflect a good trait in humanity -- think E.T., Spock or Mork -- or a bad one. That's why writers recycle ancient human motives -- the desire to plunder, colonize, rape, enslave -- as the motives of futuristic aliens.
That's all fine. But science fiction is also supposed to raise ambitions for what humans can accomplish. And in that, Hollywood is failing.
For a while now, filmmakers have been churning out fare -- like the horrendous remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" -- based on the Malthusian assumption that resources are finite and if we keep going the way we are, the Earth will be "used up" (to borrow a phrase from the opening monologue of the canceled cult sensation "Firefly"). Either that or we'll be invaded by aliens who appreciate our stuff more than we do.
The pessimism is infectious. Physicist and sci-fi nerd Stephen Hawking recently argued that maybe we should hide from aliens lest they rob us blind. When Newt Gingrich proposed a base on the moon, everyone guffawed as if such an optimistic ambition was absurd. The obsession with "peak oil" and the need to embrace "renewables" because we're running out of fossil fuels is another symptom of our malaise. Fracking and other breakthroughs demonstrate that, at least so far, whatever energy scarcity we've had has been imposed by policy, not nature.
Which gets us back to outer space. In our neighborhood alone, there are thousands of asteroids with enormous riches -- in gold, platinum, rare earth metals, etc. Planetary Resources Inc., an asteroid mining firm started last year by director James Cameron (ironic given the politics of his film "Avatar") and some Microsoft and Google billionaires, has its sights on several rocks worth anywhere from hundreds of billions to tens of trillions of dollars. And these are just the chunks scattered around our orbital backyard and near enough to exploit with existing technology. There are also plenty of balls of ice out there that might be convertible into fuel for further space exploration.
Thomas Malthus and his intellectual descendants saw humans as voracious consumers of finite resources, like a "virus" devouring its host, as Agent Smith says in "The Matrix." But humans are better understood as creators who've consistently solved the problems of scarcity by inventing or discovering new paths to abundance. As the late anti-Malthusian hero Julian Simon said, human imagination is the ultimate resource.
Unfortunately, that resource is dismayingly scarce these days, in Washington and Hollywood.
Not to worry.
The fact that wimpoid “Cruise” is in it was enough for the wife and I go give the movie a “by”.
As a retired fighter/test type, I always said that the only things that had believable acting in “Top Gun” was the aircraft.
It would be a lot easier for an alien civilization to lasso a local comet then to travel all the way here if they needed some H2O.
Every nickel-iron meteor is 2% gold by weight. That makes almost every nickel-iron meteor in museums or private collections quite worth stealing ~ and that’s what’s been happening.
I come for yer daughter Chuck.
Tom Cruise got a pilot license after Top Gun (I don’t know if the Thetans got one too) and then bought a P-51 so he is a real pilot.
I love Top Gun, watch the beginning, the end and it’s a great movie the middle is the lame part and then finding out Kelly Mcgillis is a lesbo lowers her hot chick quotient in the movie big time.
I think there was more sexual tension between Iceman (Kilmer) and Maverick (Cruise) than with the chick.
I wanna make a sci-fi parody movie (ala Scary Movie)....
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Is that Pearlman in that pic?
I thought the alien was converting sea water to energy, not taking the water. Maybe Jonah didn’t see the movie.
By its nature, most scifi is cautionary. “If we do this, look what’s likely to happen.” The biggest problem with current scifi movies is the abandonment of plot in favor of big explosions. Star Trek never got over this; every time the ship was in a battle all the control panels on the bridge exploded in sparks and fire. That’s like running the 20,000 volts from the picture tube through the switches on your TV. No one would be stupid enough to do that. Thoughtful scifi has been largely abandoned in favor of F/X. The Cruise movie sounds interesting but not enough so to buy two theater tickets ($28). Next year on cable is fine.
Pick the biggest one-trick pony hack director and you have box-office GOLD!
The scarcest resource in Hollywood today is an original idea.
Ending will have little furry lumberjacks save the day, lol
Control panels on the bridge explode but the thing they controlled was unafected? They just reroute their commands from a new terminal, only the console on the bridge was damaged? Never made sense to me.
The first problem with this plot device is that it’s pretty dumb. Hydrogen and oxygen are two of the most common elements in the universe. An alien race is savvy enough to master interstellar travel but too clueless to combine two Hs with one O to form H2O? C’mon.
Something we have not been able to do as yet I think,
but then we haven’t mastered interplanetary travel
If an alien culture was so dependent on water that they would travel lightyears and obliterate millions to get it, it must be extremely rare on their homeworld. if it is that rare, how did they grow to become so dependent on it? And if they’re resourceful enough to track it down on a tiny speck of a planet halfway across the galaxy, wouldn’t they be smart enough to either find an alternative or at least an alternative and more viable source?
I’ve always theorized that if aliens wreak havoc on earth, it would be accidental — the introduction of some fatal element into our ecosystem, for example.
They are magic panels. Perhaps they use Linux in the 23rd century. ;-)
Why war for water when there is more water/ice in asteroids and such you can have without a fight.
Imagine a film where we fight to keep aliens from taking “our” ice asteroids?
That guy is/was in everything. Helluva work ethic that “Clay” has.
Now, THAT is actually a good idea for a flick.
Everything else is okay but the bridge needs a ground wire
Ice Pirates - really weird movie.
Sometimes you might also tap the phosphates ~ to use in manufacturing food for biological purposes.
Hydrogen - the most abundant atom in the universe...
must be the oxygen that’s rare.
Actually, we mastered it ages ago. Take two parts H and one part O by volume and light a match.
I knew I had at least one good idea. Now we should recruit has-been child stars and Tonya Harding to be a blacksheep ‘loser’ unit that saves the day.
Perhaps Lucas Electric had all the starship wiring contracts.
The movie was is one of the better sci-fi movies made. Tom turns in a good performance as well as the rest of the cast. The story line is solid (for sci-fi).
Tom Cruise gets a bum rap for being a scientologist that’s way better than being a homosexual pedeophile like Lord of The Ring’s Gandalf (Ian McKellen).
I almost didn’t want to go see it because Morgan Freeman was in it, but since I decided not to see Olympus has fallen I thought it was a fair trade-off. I think Denzel Washington would have been a better actor than Morgan Freeman in this show.
I wish Tyler Perry wrote stories that played to my genre and I wish Denzel Washington played in them cause right off the top of my head, those are the only black american’s in Hollywood that I can think of that I like and appreciate. Neither wears the politics on their shoulders and haven’t polluted their product. I like Wessely Snipes too, but he can’t act.
Contract by nepotism no doubt!
The closests two stars which could have such a civilization are a couple of billion years older than our star. Can we extrapolate from that regarding the formation of life and the time spans associated with growing out of the suicidal behaviors? I think we should. Perhaps God made humankind different from the other intelligent creatures in His Universe, for reasons known to Him but not yet explained to us. we are a very primitive species. There is Bible teaching which says we shall not always be so primitive.
Hey, I like it! The washed-up child stars have a certain nostalgic appeal. Tonya Harding could be a buff, wise cracking badass.
We are the only planet with chocolate, noting better anywhere with the possible exception of knotweed...</my best Wideplains accent>
Make sure you put your mouth real close so that none of the water gets wasted.
it is a rehash of rehash.
like the new reboot of star trek both firse AND SECOND are just taking old episodes and editing down entire seasons to 90 minutes throwing in a few lens flares CGI effects a booty/boobie shot and presto instant alleged sci fi.
The unit was ordered to protect a lunar crater but hitches a ride with a Korean maintenance vessel they manage to hijack and get captures, just as a devious plan to get inside. They are considered a jinx by Space Command and they thusly jinx the aliens. Their leader Todd Bridges sacrificed a hand in the battle but returns a hero and marries Private Lindsay Lohan.
I've only seen that happen once in real life, I had an old CRT monitor back around 1990 that decided to go out in a blaze of glory with a cloud of smoke and a shower of sparks shooting out all the air vents. Quite spectacular really, and scared the h@ll out of me as I was working on a spreadsheet at the time. But I do agree about the silliness of the bridge console going up in flames every time the ship was hit, like modern keyboards and mice, there would be very little voltage needed to power a simple display device.
The Hollywood paradigm is to beat the horse until it is very very obviously a dead horse.
As long as “take over the White House” movies make money - even with B actors and low budgets - they will continue to make “take over the White House” movies.
They will take an original idea - strip it of it’s essential core - and make sure it is formulaic of what ‘worked’ before.
It has everything! Ah, and the pathos, man, the pathos of that ending.
Gotta love space herpes.
I liked the movie. My boys wanted to see it.
“the ship has herpes”
Yeah, and the fact that it was actually being shipped to someone(it appeared on the ship’s manifest). did they order from Herpes R Us?
Trying to protect Europa from an alien water stealing fleet might be easy, but trying to keep small stealthy alien ‘wildcatters’ from taking chunks of icy asteroids would be like defending the border with 2guys and a mule.
That is the perfect job for washed-up child actors!
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Gasp! TROPIS! (Skullduggery )
They work for SPAM!
Heck, they could even play low-rent mercenaries who are hired for the job!
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