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US hospitals send hundreds of immigrants back home ("medical repatriation")
AP ^ | 4/23/2013 | DAVID PITT

Posted on 04/23/2013 3:15:35 AM PDT by markomalley

Days after they were badly hurt in a car accident, Jacinto Cruz and Jose Rodriguez-Saldana lay unconscious in an Iowa hospital while the American health care system weighed what to do with the two immigrants from Mexico.

The men had health insurance from jobs at one of the nation's largest pork producers. But neither had legal permission to live in the U.S., nor was it clear whether their insurance would pay for the long-term rehabilitation they needed.

So Iowa Methodist Medical Center in Des Moines took matters into its own hands: After consulting with the patients' families, it quietly loaded the two comatose men onto a private jet that flew them back to Mexico, effectively deporting them without consulting any court or federal agency.

When the men awoke, they were more than 1,800 miles away in a hospital in Veracruz, on the Mexican Gulf Coast.

Hundreds of immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally have taken similar journeys through a little-known removal system run not by the federal government trying to enforce laws but by hospitals seeking to curb high costs. A recent report compiled by immigrant advocacy groups made a rare attempt to determine how many people are sent home, concluding that at least 600 immigrants were removed over a five-year period, though there were likely many more.

In interviews with immigrants, their families, attorneys and advocates, The Associated Press reviewed the obscure process known formally as "medical repatriation," which allows hospitals to put patients on chartered international flights, often while they are still unconscious. Hospitals typically pay for the flights.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Mexico; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: abortion; aliens; deathpanels; iowa; mexico; obamacare; zerocare
What an idea. Privatize deportations.
1 posted on 04/23/2013 3:15:35 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

First, they weren’t “immigrants.” The were illegal aliens.
Regardless, I’m glad to see they sent them back to where they belong.


2 posted on 04/23/2013 3:18:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: markomalley
The men had health insurance from jobs at one of the nation's largest pork producers. But neither had legal permission to live in the U.S., nor was it clear whether their insurance would pay for the long-term rehabilitation they needed.

So Iowa Methodist Medical Center in Des Moines took matters into its own hands: After consulting with the patients' families, it quietly loaded the two comatose men onto a private jet that flew them back to Mexico, effectively deporting them without consulting any court or federal agency.


Don't sprain your tear ducts on this one.
3 posted on 04/23/2013 3:29:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: markomalley

So what is the problem?


4 posted on 04/23/2013 3:30:03 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: cripplecreek

bump


5 posted on 04/23/2013 3:30:34 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: School of Rational Thought
So what is the problem?

No problem. I think this could make a great new service. Possible opportunity for a new line of work for government contractors.

6 posted on 04/23/2013 3:34:30 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

A hospital in St. Pete was spending the largest portion of its budget keeping a brain dead illegal from Honduras alive. They couldn’t get rid if him as his family fought them in the court. They spent millions. I moved before it ended. But my guess is he’s still there or he finally died.


7 posted on 04/23/2013 3:35:57 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: School of Rational Thought

God forbid there’s ever a case of mistaken identity and an American wakes up in a Mexican hospital.


8 posted on 04/23/2013 3:36:22 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: markomalley
But neither had legal permission to live in the U.S., nor was it clear whether their insurance would pay for the long-term rehabilitation they needed.

Dubious at best! I doubt whether the company's medical insurance covers illegal immigrants.

This is a huge problem for US hospitals. Millions of illegals work in this country on fake IDs. When they get sick, physicians and hospitals have no way to collect payment.

9 posted on 04/23/2013 3:44:51 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: markomalley
I was involved in a case somewhat like this probably over 12 years ago. The case was, however, heart wrenching and to me also showcased just how badly Mexico failed its own citizens. A father brought his 16 year old son into the US, illegally over the border, and directly to the emergency room of the university hospital I was at.

The son was deaf and mute and could only communicate using an unofficial sign language that he and his father had developed between each other. He developed acute lymphoblastic leukemia and his platelet counts were extremely low, but someone in our emergency department ignored the risk and placed a central line (subclavian vein catheter) when he presented so that they could give him blood products. I was just a junior faculty member at the time and became involved in his case. All of us involved in his care were told, after about a day, that he had no insurance and couldn't receive ongoing treatment in the hospital after stabilization.

So we gave him a ton of platelets so that we could safely remove his central line, and arranged to have appropriate medications sent to a private American physician on the border with Mexico who had volunteered to treat him for free. The father then took his very scared 16 year old son to this clinic in their beat up old station wagon.

My point is not that US hospitals should be providing free care to illegal foreign citizens. What I think should happen is that when someone from Mexico or elsewhere shows up at a US hospital, we treat them until they are stable, and we deliver a nice bill to the Mexican (or other) government. If they don't pay (which they likely won't) we subtract that amount from whatever US holdings that foreign government might have, or from whatever American aid they receive, or introduce it as a tariff on whatever goods they are bringing into the US. If they refuse to come up with ways to treat their own citizens, including a 16 year old boy who can't hear or speak, then they deserve to have their feet held to the fire.

10 posted on 04/23/2013 3:51:56 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle (Hil)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

we should not be treating for free any citizen of an OPEC country (MEXICO)

at least Saudi Arabia pays the medical bills for its citizens abroad


11 posted on 04/23/2013 3:56:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: markomalley
My favorite part:

The men and their families filed a lawsuit in 2010 claiming they received minimal rehabilitative care in Veracruz.

A judge dismissed the lawsuit last year ruling that Iowa Methodist was not to blame for the inadequate care in Veracruz. The courts also found that even though the families of the men may not have consented to their transport to Mexico, they also failed to object to it. An appeals court upheld the dismissal.

12 posted on 04/23/2013 4:28:13 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Gaffer
"First, they weren’t “immigrants.” The were illegal aliens.

Amen.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

13 posted on 04/23/2013 4:45:36 AM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! www.7161.com/streamer.cfm?dt_track_id=21356)
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To: markomalley

“it quietly loaded the two comatose men onto a private jet...”

What’s wrong with a Greyhound bus?

“Mr. Driver... please roll these guys off at the first stop south of the Rio Grande. Here’s an extra $20 for your time. “


14 posted on 04/23/2013 4:47:20 AM PDT by moovova
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To: markomalley

It costs them less to fly them back to Mexico in a private jet than it does to take care of them.

If they are saving taxpayers money, sounds like a plan to me.


15 posted on 04/23/2013 5:30:10 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: markomalley; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”Hundreds of immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally have taken similar journeys through a little-known removal system run not by the federal government trying to enforce laws but by hospitals seeking to curb high costs. A recent report compiled by immigrant advocacy groups made a rare attempt to determine how many people are sent home, concluding that at least 600 immigrants were removed over a five-year period, though there were likely many more.
In interviews with immigrants, their families, attorneys and advocates, The Associated Press reviewed the obscure process known formally as “medical repatriation,” which allows hospitals to put patients on chartered international flights, often while they are still unconscious. Hospitals typically pay for the flights.”

First I heard of this one. is this true?

Sounds too good to be true.

16 posted on 04/23/2013 5:30:21 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

A car load of Marines visiting family in Mexico, were involved a traffic accident. (note: none were Hispanic)

Taken to a local hospital and stitched up, the next day ,they were told ‘good to go’.

Returning to the US and not feeling well , three of the four were admitted to the hospital, one staying over a week!

My best guess is they already have 0bamacare in Mexico?


17 posted on 04/23/2013 5:40:42 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Mexico has had a national health service for several decades.


18 posted on 04/23/2013 5:44:06 AM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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19 posted on 04/23/2013 5:50:01 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: markomalley

Cheers to the hospital for doing something the fed gov refuses to do.


20 posted on 04/23/2013 5:50:12 AM PDT by bgill
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To: All
HERE'S HOW THE TWO RUSSIAN IMMIGRANTS were funding their lives and munition purchases on your dime. Russian emigres to the US claiming "asylum" receive a panoply of US freebies: they suck off American taxpayers bigtime---they collect generous monthly checks from SS without having put a dime into it.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the 26-year-old Chechen terrorist killed Friday morning in a wild shootout with Boston police, was a legal US resident. He could have been sent back to his homeland after a 2009 domestic violence conviction (wasn't his wife--the bum hit his grlfriend).

BUT thanks to Obama’s sucking up to ethnic solidarity terrorism, the prez sap-happily decreed that "deportations" are limited only to foreigners who committed “serious crimes”----Obama allowed the bomber to stay and do his dirty work.

The second bro/bomberDzhokhar Tsarnaev--now in a Boston hospital---was granted "asylum" in 2002.


After the murder of the MIT police officer, which occurred after the marathn bombings, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev rode in a carjacked auto. The murderous two then casually stopped at an ATM to withdraw cash.

The Chechneyan brothers did not seem to be "needy"----they were well-fed, attired in fashionable clothing---had cash in the bank---- and time and money to purchase components and make bombs. Traveled to Russia---(and elsewhere?) All without any visible means of support---like jobs.

There's a zillion ways the Chechneyan bombers were being financed by unsuspecting Bostonians.... and other Americans.

You can be sure the Brothers Tsarnaev knew the gravy train routine.....probaly bought fake ID's to establish multiple identites.

Claiming "asylum from Russian persecution" gets tham a wealth of tax-paid freebies---no questions asked----a policy dating back to WW 11. There's housing subsidies, instant welfare, food stamps, UI, EITC, SSI, education payments, free medical care.....and so on and so forth, ad infinitum, a narseaum.

21 posted on 04/23/2013 5:50:20 AM PDT by Liz
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To: sickoflibs

first I heard too

I have some serious doubts


22 posted on 04/23/2013 6:09:43 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Unless they get them to sign a form saying its OK, while they are drugged maybe.


23 posted on 04/23/2013 6:13:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

I guess an X will do?


24 posted on 04/23/2013 6:15:28 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: markomalley
After consulting with the patients' families, it quietly loaded the two comatose men onto a private jet that flew them back to Mexico, effectively deporting them without consulting any court or federal agency.

Why should they consult a court or federal agency? Did these illegals do any consulting before they entered America?

 

Hundreds of immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally have taken similar journeys through a little-known removal system run not by the federal government trying to enforce laws but by hospitals seeking to curb high costs.

The stupid Ass. Press writes this as if this was a bad thing.

25 posted on 04/23/2013 6:34:59 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: markomalley

So?


26 posted on 04/23/2013 7:11:30 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: School of Rational Thought

So what is the problem?


The problem is they didn’t consult the federal govt or courts, only the family.


27 posted on 04/23/2013 10:39:50 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: sickoflibs

” First I heard of this one. is this true?

Sounds too good to be true. “

I know about this, but rumor has it, it is rarely used.


28 posted on 04/23/2013 10:43:56 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Liz

” Claiming “asylum from Russian persecution” gets tham a wealth of tax-paid freebies-—no questions asked——a policy dating back to WW 11. There’s housing subsidies, instant welfare, food stamps, UI, EITC, SSI, education payments, free medical care.....and so on and so forth, ad infinitum, a narseaum. “

Thanks for the info, Liz.


29 posted on 04/23/2013 10:45:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: PeterPrinciple
The problem is they didn’t consult the federal govt or courts, only the family.

Good for them

30 posted on 04/24/2013 5:42:20 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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