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To: Nachum

I have heard that “tepid response” bit before. We bombed the major cities of Germany almost out of existance, smashed the Nazis and the allies freed the camps and we tried the war criminals that were left. What exactly was the response susposed to be beyond that...


4 posted on 04/07/2013 8:20:37 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
The allies also extensively documented the deathcamps with photos and films so they would not be forgotten.

The creation of modern Israel was also part of the “response”.

A great deal of my family was killed in these camps and many survivors relocated to Israel. I don't think a single one was upset at the allied response.

7 posted on 04/07/2013 8:45:45 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: ejonesie22

I have heard that “tepid response” bit before. We bombed the major cities of Germany almost out of existance, smashed the Nazis and the allies freed the camps and we tried the war criminals that were left. What exactly was the response susposed to be beyond that...
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We didn’t kill them fast enough. We didn’t take the refugees in soon enough. Also, the American civilization at the time was probably a little too anglo saxon. that’s vanished of course.

Israel too has changed the very meaning of what it is to be Jewish and even Christian. So a lot of this talk doesn’t really translate very well into the era that came before the creation of the state of Israel.

Basically, we’ve entered the end times.


8 posted on 04/07/2013 8:53:05 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ejonesie22
REad the article. The response they are talking about is how FDR didn't listen to the pleas of Jews seaking refuge from the Holocaust, the thought they were whining.

Bottom line is that FDR is far from the man the Left has always portrayed. You know what makes me sick? Take a trip to DC and see what president has by far the most extensive memorial.

9 posted on 04/07/2013 8:53:27 PM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: ejonesie22

and that came AFTER the axis powers attacked Pearl Harbor......there was NO response prior even when news (though limited) was leaking out about the final solution


22 posted on 04/07/2013 9:48:17 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: ejonesie22

There were many Jews on ships off the coast of the USA that weren’t permitted in. That may be part of it.


32 posted on 04/07/2013 10:36:41 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (God humbles and (if need be) destroys the false idols of the peoples. Be patient, folks...)
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To: ejonesie22; Nachum

” What exactly was the response susposed to be beyond that...”

Did you read the article? The “tepid” part is reserved for not allowing Jewish immigration up to the quota numbers.


67 posted on 04/08/2013 12:02:01 AM PDT by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: ejonesie22

We DIDN’T TRY most of the war criminals that were left. Every one of the SS soldiers involved in the Malmedy Massacre eventually went free with the heaviest sentence about 10 years for their leader, Siep Detrich (Blowtorch Division).

See Richard Gallagher’s book “Massacre at Malmedy” for the details. My friend was one of Patton’s intelligence officers who interrogated the Malmedy murderers, for which he was wrongly and irresponsibly harassed by Sen. Joe McCarthy (who bought the German-American Bundists propaganda lies about the interrogations).

Many other SS and Gestapo agents escaped any justice and even lived openly in Germany. Some even became cabinet ministers in the Communist East German government (SS Sturmfurher Ernest Grossmann, Deputy Commandant of Sachsenhausen slave labor/concentration camp), among others). The Russians wouldn’t give them up and we stopped trying to get them despite the massive evidence against them for war crimes.

The British were a little better, esp. killing Japanese war criminals in the Malaysia/Singapore theater for their atrocities. We did little to kill Japanese war criminals in the Phillipines, which was a national disgrace and a betrayal of the one million Filipinos who were slaughtered (Over 30,000 died on the Bataan Death March and in the camps. We lost about 10,000 and none of them were properly avenged).

We could have smashed the concentration camps, bombing their SS headquarters, blowing down fences and guard towers, destroying rail lines, etc. We didn’t, and my relatived died because of it (Belzec and Auschwitz).

A little more knowledge about history would help in discussing this issue.

By the way, another friend was a US military judge in post-war Germany and he did sentence convicted war criminals, spies, etc. to the max. Unfortunately those above on the Nuremburg Tribunal lost sight of how many war criminals there were and those only prosecuted a few at the top.

By the way, among my friends was one of the heads of the Polish Free Army; a young teenager from the Warsaw ghetto; another young teenager who worked with the Partisans in Yugoslavia; another man who once dealt with Eichmann regarding another matter (he was the Malmedy investigator later); B-25 pilots, and RAF pilots. Even knew a British commando who was Jewish. He and some friends did a little SS and Gestapo hunting at the end of war and beyond. They knew how to bring justice to the Nazi scum and did.

America never really knew how to clean out the Nazi house after the war. The Russians, on the other hand, executed them by the thousands, while recruiting some of the SS and Gestapo for the KGB. At least they killed some of the bastards.

WW2 was a very complicated war and they are still finding new information about Japanese war crimes and more Nazi killing fields.

My personal position would have been (had I been old enough to have been in WW2) would have been to kill all SS and Gestapo found. They deserved every bullet we could have put into them. The same for the Japanese. You don’t let feral animals escape.


75 posted on 04/08/2013 12:39:29 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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