Posted on 04/07/2013 5:58:24 AM PDT by Kaslin
According to Bill OReilly, pundits cannot appeal to the Bible any longer for public policy regarding homosexuals that want to get married. At least I think its just in regards to homosexual marriages. Hell, I dont know when and where we can use the Scripture any longer. Can we still use it in church? Does anyone know?
Well for now, I think its just in regards to homosexuals who want to get hitched that were verboten to bring the Verbum Dei into the discussion.
Geez, its getting tough keeping up with what we can and cant reference anymore, eh? I wish someone would keep me in the loop regarding whom and what I/we can source. Please email all politically correct changes to me at doug@yo-mama.com. Gracias. Back to OReilly.
Yep, as of March 26th 2013, if you believe Bill, then going forward we cannot cite the colossal lawgiver Moses, the erudite Apostle Paul, the sage Solomon or even that know-it-all Jesus lest we be deemed a Bible thumper.
By the way, who thumps the Bible? Isnt that rude? I thumped the crap out of this kid the other day who dropped the F-bomb on his mom, but Ive never thumped the Bible. Anyway
So, let me get this straight, even though Jesus Christ said marriage is solely a union between a man and a woman (Mat.19:4-6), according to Mr. OReilly, we cant inject that stuff into the mix or well be discounted as a Bible thumper? Incidentally, I dont think Bible thumper was meant as a compliment. It sure didnt sound like praise when he floated that term the other night. Matter of fact, it kind of sounded like he called those who do appeal to the Scripture as uneducated rubes.
But I might be reading too much into that expression because surely he doesnt think the vast majority of our nations founders and framers were hayseeds because, OMG, did they appeal to the Scripture for our nations political and societal glide path. If you dont believe me click here. http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=8755
Yknow, before I became a Christian in 1983, I knew diddlysquat about the Scripture. I never read it and never wanted to read it. And yet I noticed, via nature, mostly while hunting, without the aid of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, that for the propagation of species and the stabilization of the natural order, it seemed, at least to this redneck, that everything was stemming from males' and females' bumping uglies -- verses male and male or female and female. Nature was screaming at me male and female. Weird, eh? Can we reference nature any longer?
Yep, before I ever read the Bible or watched Cecile B. Demilles famous flick, being completely in the dark regarding what the Bible had to say on the subject, what I noticed as a dippy kid was the fact that the penis and the vagina were made for each other; and that the anus was an exit and not an entrance; and anything to the contrary was atypical. Or queer. Ah the good old days.
Lastly, after OReilly chastised those who make their appeal for policy based upon the wisdom of the ages, I wondered if there was, indeed, an argument that didnt cite Jeremiah that might give credence for upholding the traditional definition of marriage as that which is between a man and woman; and I stumbled upon this nugget by Robin Phillips. http://instantanalysis.net/afa-blogs/2013/04/02/five-gay-marriage-myths# . Enjoy.
If homosexuals and heterosexuals are really equal before the law, then logically heterosexual marriage must collapse into being little more than a legal construct as well. Indeed, marriage and family become mere adjuncts of the state after the removal of the de facto conditions that make the traditional family a pre-political institution in the first place. No longer is family something that, in the words of Douglas Farrow, precedes and exceeds the state. No longer is the family a hedge against the totalitarian aspirations of the state because no longer is the family prior to the state.
This is not mere hypothetical speculation about what might happen if same-sex marriages are legalized. Canadian theologian Douglas Farrow has shown that after Canada legalized same-sex marriage, even traditional marriage began to be spoken about as little more than a legal construct. In his book Nation of Bastards, Farrow criticized warned that by claiming the power to re-invent marriage, the Canadian state has drawn marriage and the family into a captive orbit. It has reversed the gravitational field between the family and the state It has effectively made every man, woman, and child a chattel of the state, by turning their most fundamental human connections into mere legal constructs at the states disposal. It has transformed those connections from divine gifts into gifts from the state.
Most people are not aware of how gay marriage will undermine the traditional family because it does so in ways that are subtle and ubiquitous. However, once gay marriage is introduced into a nation, it undermines the integrity of every family and every marriage in the nation. It does this by rearranging the familys relationship to the state. The state, which legalizes gay marriage, is a state that has assumed the god-like power to declare which collections of individuals constitute a family. But by this assumption government declares that both marriage and family are little more than legal constructs at best, and gifts from the state at worst. In the former case, marriage and family lose their objective fixity; in the latter case, we become the wards of the state.
Billy O’Reilly finally coming out of the closet as a liberal...and dragging Megyn Kelly along with him.
Amazing how many conservatives are fooled by these closet liberals/moderates at FNC...
O’Reilly has become a “non-factor” on The Factor. His incessant bloviating is becoming tiring. In fact, the whole premise of the show “looking out for you” is nothing more than a pompous I’m “looking out for me”. His announcement of a new book he is working on “Killing Jesus” was laden with self indulgence and commenting that he is going to show the inconsistencies in the four Gospels. His constant referring to the Bible as allegorical is over the top. What Bill needs is a year with Franklin Graham of Samaritans Purse or Jack Graham of Prestonwood Baptist Dallas . . getting into the Word, so that he can come to a better understanding of what the Bible is all about. I vote for Sunday School with Jeffress of First Baptist Dallas for Bill as well. His Catholic teachings evidently didnt kick in.
I agree with you about Megyn Kelly. . .she is sounding more and more like a lefty. . .whether she is trying in encourage discourse or not . . .she is not wearing this new persona well.
It was evident when Laura Ingraham was on the show the other night, she was kowtowing to the bloviator in hopes that should would still be asked to stand in for him on his show.
Bill is beginning to remind me of an old vaudeville act and maybe he and Barbara Walters should go off into the sunset together. I notice Fox is putting more ads on to remind us that his show is #1. Just maybe viewership is waning.
I personally need to thump my Bible more and more importantly READ it more!
Appealing to the Bible to convince people who don't believe in the Bible of anything at all is wasted effort.
First such people have to be convinced to believe in the Bible. Pending success at that, convincing them of anything must rely on appeals to something besides the Bible.
Indeed. I turned off O’Blowhard about 8 years ago. I haven’t missed him.
bfl
O’Reilly also said he doesn’t believe the stories in the Old Testament (i.e., Jonah and the Whale). He said something like it’s way too ridiculous. However, when questioned about the virgin birth of our Lord Jesus Christ in the New Testament, you should have seen him squirm! O’Reilly’s next book will be entitled, “The Killing of Jesus”. One wonders how he will approach the topic. Doesn’t he know that Jesus Christ actually wrote - or inspired to be written - the Old Testament?
law and morals have diverged unfortnately
According to Bill OReilly, pundits cannot appeal to the Bible any longer for public policy regarding homosexuals that want to get married. At least I think its just in regards to homosexual marriages... Yep, as of March 26th 2013, if you believe Bill, then going forward we cannot cite the colossal lawgiver Moses, the erudite Apostle Paul, the sage Solomon or even that know-it-all Jesus lest we be deemed a Bible thumper.
I really don’t see why Bill O’Reilly needs to bring Killing Jesus into his series (except for $$$$$$$$)since the account of His death comes from Jesus Himself through the Holy Spirit. . .the Bible, the inerrant Word of God . . . I think he is treading on dangerous territory if he thinks he can prove inerrancies. Bill has too much time on his hands . . if you notice even when he talks Bible his demeanor changes, his speech gets faster, and his voice louder. He is spending too much of his energy foolishly and I pray that his influence in no way sways someone to quesion their salvation.
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
A Good read: http://www.lwf.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5276
JMHO, when the Law becomes abusive of the people,
There
Is
No
Law
...or did we go and fight that little war in the 1770's for some other reason?
I canceled BOR several years ago when he had a former Israeli PM and started to lecture him about what’s going on in the Middle East.
I don’t say anything anymore to my elderly Father when he changes the channel from the Factor to Cavuto.
OReilly has spent a lot of time in Hollywood tha last year and look what happens,wonder who he’s doing there?.
GEEZE...its not a matter of CAN’T use, its a matter of SMART use. The Bible has NO legal standing, so lets take a different approach. One that can WIN.
I turned off OBlowhard about 8 years ago. I havent missed him.
I can’t take him anymore either. However, if I reminder I do switch on @ 835 or so on Wednesday for Miller Time!
Bill OReilly is a bloviating post turtle.
I don’t know
Yeah, you cannot... make this stuff up!
I'd complain that Bill OReilly hurt my feeling but they'd just call me another... a racist--
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