Posted on 04/05/2013 7:10:05 AM PDT by raptor22
National Security: The administration moves an advanced missile defense system to Guam because it knows a single low-yield nuke detonated at high altitude could send America back in time a hundred years.
The announcement Wednesday by the Defense Department that it would soon deploy the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System (THAAD), a missile defense system inherited from the Bush administration, to Guam underscores the seriousness of the threat from North Korea, whose actions, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel rightly said, "present a real and clear danger."
This move comes after the Obama administration reversed its previous scuttling of Bush administration plans to increase our ground-based interceptor force in Alaska and the deployment of two destroyers equipped with Aegis missile defense systems, the Decatur and the John McCain, to the region.
Some observers dismissed it as familiar bluster when North Korea's 28-year-old raging runt, Kim Jong-un, signed an order for North Korea's strategic rocket forces to be on standby to fire at U.S. targets in front of a map that included Austin, Texas, as a target.
But other observers are concerned that a specific target may not be what the possibly imploding North Korean regime may have in mind.
The three-stage missile North Korea launched last December that also orbited a "package," which experts say could be a test to orbit a nuclear weapon that then would be de-orbited on command anywhere over the U.S. and exploded at a high altitude, releasing an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). That would fry electronic circuitry and the nation's power grid.
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HUh, it would set us back, but not that long.
Yes we would be vulnerable to a secondary incursion, (or they would be “invited”, but The us military and unfortunately our ‘guvernmunt’ would still function as they are “hardened-shielded’ from EMP.)
we could retaliate against any nation invading us (if US wanted to that is)
But against a peon country like NORK, if we hit back it would bring China into it as they are NORK allies.
The real danger will come from our own Govt. inside CONUS after an attack....what will they do to us patriots???
As will I do whatever it takes.
Yes. I am prepared. I have no compunction to it you do what has to be done to live, like when I was in the military.
I don’t care if they are armed. It is what my nuclear family and I have that counts.
/johnny
Both in Austin.
Samsung has a huge factory around Austin. The NK’s probably could not resist the idea of using one of their toys to hurt the largest “capitalist dog” in SK and doing so without incinerating a few 10’s of thousands of their “brothers”.
” why with all our knowledge should we not be able to rebuild a country that our forefathers built with far far less? “
Because the people with the know how to engineer such things live, largely, in the urban and immediately suburban areas. If they’re dead or afraid, due to social conditions, to go to work things get dicey. The urban and immediately suburban areas will be those that the riots ‘light right up’. And not with electricity.
What percentage of engineers do you think are actively prepping right now? What percentage of those would leave their homes where the preps are to venture into work if that work is near social upheaval? How many would leave those preps and the families they love to do so? If gas was unavailable, how would they get there?
The engineers in 1900 that built up the modern industrial system had access to food distribution networks to feed themselves and their families. There were shipping networks that didn’t depend on the gasoline or diesel engine to work. Those have largely fallen by the wayside.
How many draft horse drawn barges do you see on the erie canal today?
How many oil lamps do those engineers in the firm down the street have, just in case the lights go out?
How many horses do you see tied up out front? If those engineers all live 20 or 30 miles from the office, how do they commute? Collaboration over those distances is impossible without electricity.
Why can’t we rebuild it? We probably can. But not without SIGNIFICANT upheaval and a whole lot of dead people. And, unfortunately, people who are educated in those particular fields don’t live rurally. We will have a whole lot of farmers who survive. Computer engineers? Not many of those I’m afraid.
Most people will not expend the energy soldier/Marines do. They will sit around and take the easiest path.
Absolutely, these scenarios are accounted for. the US military is prepared.
Your points are correct, IF we had better leadership.
My fear, as noted, is an EMP would give this admin the capability to secure control......one area at a time, no communication (except runners -like ancient Greece (ha)
With martial law and all that....Hey, he might even come off as the “Hero” with statues and framed pictures, songs , flags,just like Uncle Joe.
(sarc)
He’s fired all the patriot generals, remember?
Ever heard of blankets? we rarely run our heat in the winter except for a few hours a day and that is strictly for comfort not survival. I know where there are some eskimos laughing.
It’s not lack of methods. It’s the slow trickle of money for materials, tools, etc. No big problem though. It’s far better than trying to get things done around some city—even with more money around cities.
I suggested this was a possablity the other day.
If north Korea has the ability to put something into orbit and has only a few working nukes this would be the most logical and effective uses to do the most damage.
Most of our military hardware is EMP hardened and thus would continue to function so we would be able to fight back, but we would paorbaly find that we need every bit of it here on the homefrount to deal with the results of the EMP attack.
The sad true is we could easily be looking at hundred of thousands perhaps even millions of Americans dead. Most of the rest almost assuredly panicked and isolated. Major city’s could become human disaster areas of epic proportion within days.
http://www.secretsofsurvival.com/survival/emp_attack.html
Fiction.
It would only need to “black-out” a few key states. to put us in chaos. God have mercy on those unlucky ones.
But as yield size is important, height of detonation is more critical. The reaction of electrons in lighter atmosphere.....something like that.And curvature of earth, etc.
It would set us back at least 2 generations. Most of the technical fields would have to be recreated from scratch. With people who are in diapers right now. It would take at least that long to have enough computer engineers, electrical engineers, physicians, nurses, and other specialized persons to reach where we are today.
Those fields would be decimated, literally, when the big cities go up in smoke. Most big teaching and R&D hospitals? In the big cities. Most really big engineering firms? In the big cities. Most pharma R&D in this country? Outside Indianapolis, in Northern New Jersey, and a few places along the Eastern seaboard. All near, or in, large cities. AT&T has a lot of engieering and techie types in Northern NJ. In Salinas KS? Not so many there...
There might be a few smart ones that have stayed silent. The outcry would be too much for DC to sit and do nothing.
I’ve lived in hurricane country my entire life, been going through hurricanes for over 57 years.
If people don’t have a way to cook the food it ends up by the curb.
BTW, what do you do with the deer, pig, fish, frozen veggies from your garden, and frozen leftovers in your freezer if you don’t have any kind of notice the power is going to be off for a month because it’s not hurricane season?
Excellent point.
A good reminder.
I believe it wouldn't take the entire country to be blacked out to create such chaos.......those without would go “hunting” in unaffected areas.
People that suicide in the face of possible emp aftermaths are weak and are doing the masses a favor by thinning the pool.
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