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North Korea seen moving mid-range missile to east coast: reports
Reuters ^ | 2013/04/03

Posted on 04/03/2013 7:21:22 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

North Korea seen moving mid-range missile to east coast: reports

SEOUL | Wed Apr 3, 2013 9:13pm EDT

(Reuters) - North Korea has moved what appears to be a mid-range Musudan missile to its east coast, South Korea's Yonhap news agency said on Thursday, quoting multiple government sources privy to intelligence from U.S. and South Korean authorities.

It was not clear if the missile was mounted with a warhead or whether the North was planning to fire it or was just putting it on display as a show of force, one South Korean government source was quoted as saying.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alreuters; coast; east; kimjongeun; kn08musudan; korea; midrange; missile; moving; musudan; nkorea; northkorea; range; reports; seen; southkorea
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Expect incoming missile heading toward(or trying to head toward) West Coast. I think the Fat Boy has to do this if he intends to climb down safely after upping the political stake so high.

Hopefully, there would be accident at booster stage or mid-flight. This is the time for MD to show its worth.

1 posted on 04/03/2013 7:21:22 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A FReeper on another thread had an excellent idea, IMHO. The U.S. needs to tell the Young-un that if he fires a nuke at us, we’re going to fire nukes at Iran. LOL! Great idea.


2 posted on 04/03/2013 7:26:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


3 posted on 04/03/2013 7:26:24 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Our President needs to declare - "Anything put on a pad will be wiped off the pad".

Yeah, like that is going to happen.

4 posted on 04/03/2013 7:26:51 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: TigerLikesRooster

There has to be a couple of NK Generals standing there and wondering where exactly this goes. It’s ok to talk up stuff and act tough....if you are going beyond step one, and actually moving stuff to a usage-stage, they have to question the whole game being played out. All it takes is one idiot to think he got the launch order (by accident), and you get some minor war starting up and everyone wondering what the next step is.


5 posted on 04/03/2013 7:28:10 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Best guess ... This missile setup maybe is a ruse. No link or proof ... gut reaction only.
6 posted on 04/03/2013 7:28:32 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I live on the Left Coast of California..should I be hiding under my bed?


7 posted on 04/03/2013 7:29:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The Young-un Fat boy needs to be told that he’s been targeted.


8 posted on 04/03/2013 7:29:54 PM PDT by laplata (The Answer To 1984 Is 1776)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This missile can barely reach Guam.


9 posted on 04/03/2013 7:30:21 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If the Norks launch at the US they will most likely be unsuccessful. What will be interesting is how Zero responds. Personally, based on a missile launch, I would lay waste to North Korea just north of the DMZ with tactical nuclear weapons as soon as one of their missiles was airborne. That takes out the Norks artillery aimed at South Korea and the north is no longer a threat. The Korean War would be over in about 20 minutes.


10 posted on 04/03/2013 7:31:45 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tiger, are there any observations you can share? Domestic conversations, diplomatic conversations, perceived assessments, etc.


11 posted on 04/03/2013 7:32:51 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: pepsionice

Right. We are past the stage one. If order comes down to generals to actually hit a big one, I am also wondering if they will oblige. This sentiment may run along the entire command chain. They would all know if they obey the order, things will got to hell. It can go either way: do it despite the misgiving or sit on it.


12 posted on 04/03/2013 7:33:35 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Just ban high capacity assault nuke clips.


13 posted on 04/03/2013 7:34:24 PM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: Last Dakotan

He’ll declare, “We need to send them more food and money.”


14 posted on 04/03/2013 7:34:28 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Strategerist

How many SM-3s are on our CGs and DDGs over in the Sea of Japan? How many have we sold to Japan so far for their Kongo class ships? Have all 4 of them received the BMD upgrades? You can bet Japan’s air and missile defense units are spun up now.


15 posted on 04/03/2013 7:34:46 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I am not a Korea expert, and have avoided discussions on Korea mostly.

I must say though, this is starting to escalate, from my viewpoint.

Just saying. Hope Kim knows what he is doing. The longer this goes on, the more chances someone will make a goof.


16 posted on 04/03/2013 7:35:00 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: ConservativeInPA

I think the more concerning issue is what to do with the millions of North Koreans now free to flood China and South Korea.

China only props up Lil’ Kim mostly for that reason. Imagine how messy the border region of Manchuria would get.


17 posted on 04/03/2013 7:37:48 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: FlingWingFlyer

18 posted on 04/03/2013 7:38:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Strategerist

Evidently the Musudan has never even been tested, although one can infer its range and payload from predecessor designs (up to 4,000 km and up to one ton). Probably inertial navigation.


19 posted on 04/03/2013 7:39:01 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A thought to see if am understanding ... past stage one ... normally three acts and looks to be well into act two or stage two. Would this be the assessment you hold?


20 posted on 04/03/2013 7:39:42 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Strategerist
This missile can barely reach Guam.

Let's hope it doesn't make it to Guam, it could tip the island over.

21 posted on 04/03/2013 7:40:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FlingWingFlyer
A FReeper on another thread had an excellent idea, IMHO. The U.S. needs to tell the Young-un that if he fires a nuke at us, we’re going to fire nukes at Iran. LOL! Great idea.

We should do that anyway. We can just say "oops, someone put in the wrong coordinates"

22 posted on 04/03/2013 7:43:16 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump


23 posted on 04/03/2013 7:49:02 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I must admit that I’m starting to find this pretty spooky.More so because of the lightweight who currently holds the title of Community Organizer-In-Chief.”The call comes at 3AM...hello,this is Osama Obama,I’m at a fundraiser right now...”


24 posted on 04/03/2013 7:49:29 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: pepsionice
All it takes is one idiot to think he got the launch order (by accident), and you get some minor war starting up and everyone wondering what the next step is.

If we're talking about a live nuke, that's no minor war.

25 posted on 04/03/2013 7:50:05 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Strategerist

Yes, but it could reach Tokyo, bases in Okinawa and it could flip Guam all the way over!


26 posted on 04/03/2013 7:53:20 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: no-to-illegals
Domestically, people in SK feel they had enough. They took all the restraints one can possibly do, and now NK has a real nuke. Allies promise that they can provide guaranteed defense. Many are skeptical. They all feel that they have to take the matters in their own hand, even if it is rather late. So they want SK's own nuclear deterrent. U.S. State Dept., arms control establishment, and Zero are all displeased. However, putting SK on even shorter leash while NK is running amok is not making a convincing case. It is a rather bureaucratically expedient move.

Anyway, because of that, U.S. are showing all kind of scary weapons(B-2, B-52, and others) to NK's Fat Boy. The trouble is that he is not backing down and up the ante in his own way. The boy used up all non-military measures now. At the same time, he always move ahead of belligerent rhetoric. He goes further than outsiders are accustomed to. NK rhetoric and threat have their own well-honed choreography. Plan, timing, execution, and climb down. He is way off this path. Things are not going right.

We all believe that NK state is dying. Clock is ticking. It is ticking faster after Kim Jong-il's death. In light of latest actions, it is ticking even faster. NK can unravel sooner than we expect. We always want to have some time cushion so that we can plan, prepare, and steer the event toward the manageable situation. However, I don't think NK situation will end in such a way. Things will end in some kind of a mess which nobody are prepared to deal with. Yes, we may predict the outcome, but the outcome would be one of the least favorable cases.

27 posted on 04/03/2013 7:53:24 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“The U.S. needs to tell the Young-un that if he fires a nuke at us, we’re going to fire nukes at Iran.”

If he fires a missile at us, it is equally likely to hit Iran....


28 posted on 04/03/2013 7:56:09 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I have always felt that you can find core truths in many places, sometimes even in very unusual places, but that doesn’t take away from their truth. The line from the Movie 'Open Range'; where Charlie says: "There's somethings that gnaw on a man worse than dieing." is one such core truth I have found in a movie. There are many others.

The one I want you to think of now is from the movie 'The Dark Knight'; Where Alfred Pennyworth says: "Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."
29 posted on 04/03/2013 7:56:32 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The “Musudan Missile” has never been test fired. Some people believe it is closely related to the SS-N-6.


30 posted on 04/03/2013 7:57:12 PM PDT by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: dfwgator
It never wears out, does it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

Unfortunately, I think Hank may actually have his sh!t more together than Un...

31 posted on 04/03/2013 7:58:37 PM PDT by FredZarguna (The best way for Kim to actually hit Guam is to aim somewhere else.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
rocket fail photo: Rocket Fail zrgxc.gif
32 posted on 04/03/2013 8:00:50 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Thank You. Much appreciation.
33 posted on 04/03/2013 8:00:56 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: GenXteacher

LOL! It wouldn’t surprise me. I heard that those NORK pilots that fly their “medium range missiles” aren’t very proficient. They are the ones who were kicked out of flight school.


34 posted on 04/03/2013 8:01:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Obammy do something? Not likely. He’s a dimwit coward. If the Norks make a move against the South expect Obammy to be absent from the action. Probably tied up and gagged in the basement of the Whitey Hut by the military.


35 posted on 04/03/2013 8:08:40 PM PDT by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Norks fire off a nuke and before we can retaliate, they sue for peace. The UN criticizes the US for provoking this and forces us to pay the Norks. Also they come back and say, if the US couldn’t sell weapons to South Korea, the north wouldn’t need weapons to defend themselves.

Hence our gun ban.


36 posted on 04/03/2013 8:08:50 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

As long as it takes out Hawkeye too go for it


37 posted on 04/03/2013 8:09:37 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Japan must be worried....


38 posted on 04/03/2013 8:11:43 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I live on the Left Coast of California..should I be hiding under my bed?


If you’re near San Francisco, yes. LOL


39 posted on 04/03/2013 8:14:18 PM PDT by laplata (The Answer To 1984 Is 1776)
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To: laplata

Oh Im in Southern Cali..so I Guess Im OK..but San Francisco..is there where it would supposedly hit? Well bombs away then LOL


40 posted on 04/03/2013 8:15:17 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Yup, thanks Tiger. I’m sure a lot of us have been looking for some perspective not available here.


41 posted on 04/03/2013 8:15:40 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Sometimes the more I read the more I wish I had not read ... From Article am Posting from December 19, 2012 ... Do the North Korean Space Objects Pose a Threat? Not right now, and maybe not ever. All four North Korean space objects are in normal, predictable orbits and are being tracked regularly by both the US military and amateur observers around the world. http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-12/19/north-korean-satellite?page=all ... Note there are four NK space objects according to article.
42 posted on 04/03/2013 8:17:06 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It sounds like SK and Japan have had it and if NK tries shooting at them this time they will get a big unwanted present.


43 posted on 04/03/2013 8:18:33 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Shadow44
I think the more concerning issue is what to do with the millions of North Koreans now free to flood China and South Korea.

That would be the South Korea's problem. I want our troops out of Korea and the whole blackmail thing to end with Norks. I think it is hideous that our government has sent large quantities of food and fuel to the Norks every time they throw a tantrum. It is not good for the North Korean people as it only props up a communist regime. That is a value thing. Call me crazy, but I rather fight while I am starving and cold than live where I have no freedom. North Koreans should have had that motivation long ago and we have only prolonged their suffering by helping prop up North Korea.

44 posted on 04/03/2013 8:19:49 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I was just thinking that San francisco deserves it more than other areas of CA.


45 posted on 04/03/2013 8:21:45 PM PDT by laplata (The Answer To 1984 Is 1776)
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To: Strategerist

Not Guam, then. Tokyo perhaps. The east coast of NK is very close to Japan.


46 posted on 04/03/2013 8:22:34 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: TigerLikesRooster
For those who think this is an unprecedented escalation, consider the ROKS Cheonan in 2010.


47 posted on 04/03/2013 8:22:40 PM PDT by fso301
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To: TigerLikesRooster

There’s more going on here than we know. China also has an untested leader without full control, and China/NK military ties are close. Hardline elements in the PLA may be pushing NK toward confrontation for unknown reasons.


48 posted on 04/03/2013 8:26:38 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Great. My daughter is going to Japan at the end of the month for 3 weeks to visit a friend. Now I’m totally freaked out about her trip. Tell me I’m over-reacting, please.


49 posted on 04/03/2013 8:27:49 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I must admit that I’m starting to find this pretty spooky.More so because of the lightweight who currently holds the title of Community Organizer-In-Chief.”The call comes at 3AM...hello,this is Osama Obama,I’m at a fundraiser right now...”

At least we have a highly experienced, top rate Secretary of Da Fence advising obama of what to do. (that is once he gets off the 18th green.) And just think how bad this situation would already be if John Kerry wasn't on top of things. He was in Viet Nam, you know.

Sad that a tenth rate, nothing of a nation can now do this to what was until just recently, the greatest military power on earth.

50 posted on 04/03/2013 8:28:09 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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