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Trouble Brewing in GOP
Townhall.com ^ | March 19, 2013 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 03/19/2013 5:15:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Good find Kaslin; my feelings exacly, and MUCH better said than anything I could ever come up with..


61 posted on 03/19/2013 6:21:13 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Kaslin

how in the world is amnesty for foreign invaders a “social issue”? It would bankrupt this country.

Libertarians want to pretend to be fiscally conservative, they want to pretend that social liberalism doesn’t cost two arms and two legs


62 posted on 03/19/2013 6:23:15 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kaslin

I have resinged my membership in the Republican Party because (like the Democrat party) it no longer knows what it stands for.

I have joined the Constitution Party. It’s platform is simple: it advocates only what the constitution says...nothing more...nothing less.


63 posted on 03/19/2013 6:24:03 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: Kaslin; cuban leaf
I hope you haven’t forgotten that we had the attacks on 9/11 and two wars.

Problem is that the Bush Administration and the Republican Congress used GWOT to spend that money on a whole bunch of stuff that had nothing to do with GWOT, such as the Medicare prescription drug expansion and that awful, pork-laden 2005 Transportation bill, in which Bush's staff told Congressmen and senators that if they wanted anything at all, then that was the time to get it in.

Bush signs $286.4 billion highway bill Legislation includes funding for 6,371 pet projects; Alaska a big winner (thanks to Ted Stevens and Frank Murkowski)

And as far as GWOT itself goes, most of the $1.7 trillion spent on it was either stolen or lost, according to the Pentagon Inspector General.

U.S. Defense Department can't account for billions for Iraq, audit finds

And a good chunk of the rest of the GWOT money was siphoned off to militarize state and local police forces and build the current out-of-control National security apparatus:

Local Cops Ready for War With Homeland Security-Funded Military Weapons

And don't get me started on TSA...

Insider: $56 Billion Later, Airport Security Is Junk

64 posted on 03/19/2013 6:25:21 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Jim Noble

even the Puritans had divorce but they had to have good reason, infidelity and infertility were among those


65 posted on 03/19/2013 6:26:15 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Kaslin

I hope you haven’t forgotten that we had the attacks on 9/11 and two wars. Otherwise STHU


I am aware. My single sentence was a brief synopsis. It includes not just that they continued spending, but how they spent as well as the rhetoric going on at the time.

I learned a long time ago to watch people’s actions, not their words. They have become like teenagers who’s explanations for their actions make no sense. And like with teenagers, it is because they are lying. I have zero faith in either party. They are both responsible for where we are and, truth be told, the american people are responsible for who represents us.

The american people vote their wallet, rather than principle. This is where it’s gotten us. But be of good cheer. Our faith is in God, not our government. Countries come and go and this one had a pretty good run. Feel free to expend all efforts to keep the Titanic afloat as the water consumes C deck. As for me and my family, we shall serve the Lord - and look for a hammer an nails to build our own life raft out of deck chairs.

Where would the early church have been if they had put their faith in Rome?


66 posted on 03/19/2013 6:26:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Even JFK who lacked personal morals was more conservative than many of the idiots we have been electing for the past decade. They tell us they are conservatives and have the same values as we do, then when elected, they turn their backs on those values with the taste of perks and power. We need TERM LIMITS for both house and senate, and reduce the senate to 4 yrs not 6. TWO terms then out, no ability to get lobbying jobs either.

“But my personal preferences as to the future of the conservative movement and the GOP aren’t really the point. The point is that no matter what I prefer, the hard truth is that the movement inside the Republican Party to abandon social conservatism is nothing short of a political death wish. Denying it will not alter the reality.”

This is not my party any more, they have destroyed it from within.


67 posted on 03/19/2013 6:26:16 AM PDT by GailA ( those who do not keep promises to the Military, won't keep them to U)
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To: odawg
I guess it would depend on where you live.

here is what wiki says on the issue:

For most of Western history, marriage was a private contract between two families. Until the 16th-century, Christian churches accepted the validity of a marriage on the basis of a couple’s declarations. If two people claimed that they had exchanged marital vows—even without witnesses—the Catholic Church accepted that they were validly married.

Some states in the US hold that public cohabitation can be sufficient evidence of a valid marriage. Marriage license application records from government authorities are widely available starting from the mid-19th century. Some are available dating from the 17th century in colonial America.[1] Marriage licenses have been required since 1639 in Massachusetts, with their use gradually expanding to other jurisdictions.[2] These prohibitions have changed throughout history. In the 1920s, they were used by 38 states to prohibit whites from marrying blacks, mulattos, Japanese, Chinese, Indians, Mongolians, Malays or Filipinos without a state approved license. At least 32 nations have established significant prohibitions on same-sex marriage.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_license

So, as stated above, the licensing of marriage by the state is fairly recent concept. Throughout most of the history of western civilization, it was not licensed.

68 posted on 03/19/2013 6:26:53 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Great Post, and so true.

Republicans have been sold out by a leadership of politicians who are Republicans in name only.


69 posted on 03/19/2013 6:27:33 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin
Any third party is a joke, if you ask me

And the Republican Party isn't?

70 posted on 03/19/2013 6:32:01 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Kaslin
One thing we have to do is to stop fighting each other.

When the GOP-e stabs me in the back, then damned right I'm going to fight back.

71 posted on 03/19/2013 6:34:19 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: New Jersey Realist

YOU NAILED IT.
My sentiments exactly.
My only complaint is, I wish to hell I had written it.


72 posted on 03/19/2013 6:37:37 AM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: GeronL
even the Puritans had divorce but they had to have good reason, infidelity and infertility were among those

I'm not sure that, if you look closely at the fruits of the Puritan movement in terms of preserving and propagating the faith, that you should be citing them as examples of anything Christian or traditional.

73 posted on 03/19/2013 6:40:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: COBOL2Java

You could very well be true, in which case we’re just circling the drain.


Back in 2007 I was wondering about that. I was posting on a Seattle site that this could get as bad or worse than the Great Depression. And to show how far we’ve come, at the time even I thought - on an emotional level - that was crazy talk. But the facts strongly suggested it.

It doesn’t sound like crazy talk any more. And I believe it will get FAR worse before it gets better. Kinda like the mid-forties got far worse for Japan before it got better.

IOW, IMO, we ARE circling the drain. The whole of the civilized world, that is. We are headed for even more interesting times ahead.


74 posted on 03/19/2013 6:41:51 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Jim Noble

take a look at the fruits of America and we all deserve hell too


75 posted on 03/19/2013 6:42:54 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Timber Rattler

I was really angry at Bush for being against arming pilots. And I was really ticked at the R’s for just backing off and trusting passengers of all future flights to basically respond as the passengers of the last jet to go down responded.

Let’s be frank: If something like 9/11 had preceeded 9/11. It never would have been able to happen. The passengers on ALL of those planes would have prevented it. We really didn’t need to beef up security or anything. We only needed to rely on the power and boldness of the American citizen in this new paradigm to handle it.

IOW, within 9/11, were the seeds of preventing it from ever happening again. It let every single airline passenger know that “wait out the hijacking” is not an option. But our nanny state saw a crisis to exploit to reduce our freedom and they jumped at it.

And they were republicans.


76 posted on 03/19/2013 6:46:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

ticked at the R’s for just backing off = ticked at the R’s for NOT just backing off


77 posted on 03/19/2013 6:47:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Resettozero

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizing_for_America

Organizing for America is one of Obama’s spin machines that staffs bloggers. They are a 501c campaign machine that refuses to disclose contribution info.

They are now organizing neighborhood meetings in Miami. I was forwarded an email, criticizing the “marxist” meeting, and my computer crashed. Cuba has neighborhood organizers like that. Potentially dangerous crap.


78 posted on 03/19/2013 6:49:28 AM PDT by mgist
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To: cuban leaf
If something like 9/11 had preceeded 9/11. It never would have been able to happen. The passengers on ALL of those planes would have prevented it.

Well, 9/11 happened because the government had for years told airline staff and passengers to simply remain passive, keep their mouths shut, and obey terrorists' commands during hijackings, since Uncle Sam would free them once they reached Cuba or Libya. This goes back to the Palestinian/Red Army Faction hijackings of the 1970s, altered slightly by the airline bombings of the 1980s, which brought us airport metal detectors. As a result, Al Qaeda led the sheep to slaughter on three of the four airplanes during the 9/11 attacks (The passengers of United 93 of course fought back after they learned what was going on from family cell phone calls).

Being a frequent business flyer myself (not by choice), I can safely say that another 9/11 is a virtual impossibility, not because of DHS or TSA, but because of better informed passengers, who will most certainly stand up together should a terrorist suddenly jump up in mid-flight and shout "Allah Ahkbar!"

79 posted on 03/19/2013 7:00:53 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: GeronL
take a look at the fruits of America and we all deserve hell too

Agree completely.

Look, I was raised Reformed, and my church esteemed the Puritans highly.

There is a good case to be made that the current leadership of the New England Left, who are basically running the country and half the world, are the spiritual and intellectual heirs of the Puritan movement, having discarded God as a superstition but cleaving to the core belief that it's up to us to create Heaven on Earth, the Church and its divinely appointed leaders be damned.

80 posted on 03/19/2013 7:08:48 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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