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Steubenville rape prosecutor confirms threats to her, her family
Trib Today ^ | 03/18/2013 | staff

Posted on 03/18/2013 9:52:27 PM PDT by Reagan‹berAlles

Edited on 03/19/2013 4:27:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

STEUBENVILLE - Jefferson County Prosecutor Jane Hanlin and her family had to leave town during the juvenile rape trial because of threats made against both her and her family.

Sunday evening, Hanlin confirmed that threats had been made, and she found them to be credible. Hanlin said there were instances of threats before, but the number of threats of a specific nature grew.

"As the trial date grew closer, we received a number of them that seemed to be more credible than others," Hanlin said.


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To: GSD Lover

“After a certain point, yes, alcohol was forced on her.”

How do you force alcohol on someone? I suppose it would be possible if they set up an IV, but handing a drunk a drink is not forcing it on them. By your way of thinking, a bartender filling a glass would be forcing it on the customer...


151 posted on 03/19/2013 8:37:09 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: ladyjane

“Any evidence of a date rape drug won’t be there after 12 hours.”

Could very well be, I have no idea. But you can’t just make it up because it’s possible.


152 posted on 03/19/2013 8:40:03 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Reagan√úberAlles

Just saw a twit that said the Coach may face charges for failing to report. Allegedly he told the crew he would “take care of it” and it has been reported that he instructed the rapists and witnesses to delete all the pics and videos from their phones.....


153 posted on 03/19/2013 8:41:15 AM PDT by There's millions of'em (Tis a relentless battle for freedom)
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To: GSD Lover
So why don’t you share what you think is exculpatory evidence.

Evading her legal guardians' oversight, ignoring the advice of her peers, prior statements, unlawful intoxication, lack of a comprehensive recording of the events in lieu of her recollections...etc.

So far as I can tell, there is nothing that happened to this girl that isn't regularly solicited by other women every day, so the actual events, degrading as they may be, do not constitute a rape.

What would constitute rape, seems to be conspicuously absent without comprehensive recordings or admissions of guilt.

154 posted on 03/19/2013 8:42:46 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: SatinDoll; papertyger
I suggest you need help with your reading comprehension AND psychopathy. Have much problem relating to women?

Not only women problems, this one is vying for the dumbest FR posts ever, sort of like someone trying to defend our current oval office resident as one who cuts spending and is a tremendous job creator.....

Dumbest. Posts. Ever. Not a particularly enviable track record to be proud of..........

155 posted on 03/19/2013 8:45:35 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: GeronL
Back in the 90's I subscibed to National Review. A fellow wrote a letter to the editor saying something on the order of. "Why can't they make great movies anymore without using so much profanity? The other day, I went to a movie and they used the F-word so many times, that at intermission I went to the refreshments counter and ordered an f'ing coke and an f'ing popcorn and they kicked me out of the theater."

Does anyone think that movies like Shane and The Searchers would be better using the f-word?

156 posted on 03/19/2013 8:46:49 AM PDT by saminfl
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To: papertyger
So far as I can tell, there is nothing that happened to this girl that isn't regularly solicited by other women every day, so the actual events, degrading as they may be, do not constitute a rape.

I don't mean to step in the middle of your skurfufful here, so pardon that. But, I've been around for 46 years and have walked around the block and seen in most of the windows, if you know what I mean. But I have yet to meet a woman who solicited for group activities. That's anectodal. But my question is that since the girl was 16, does this not also count as a statutory rape? Not up on the legalese of digits versus penile penetration.
157 posted on 03/19/2013 8:48:11 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: ladyjane
If someone slipped a rufie in your ginger ale would you like being called stupid?

Who admitted to, or observed the admission of, this drug?

158 posted on 03/19/2013 8:49:20 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: tioga

Heard on the news there may be more charges coming.
Good!


159 posted on 03/19/2013 8:51:18 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: babygene

Based on the current prevalence of the date rape drug, I’d say it’s not just possible something was slipped in her drunk, it’s quite likely.

No one leaves a drink around in a bar these days. The kids hold onto it, keep it close, and watch it constantly. At a house party people are more relaxed but it’s still not safe. Given that the boys apparently did this once before and the girl was totally out of it then, I’d say she was probably given a drug.


160 posted on 03/19/2013 8:51:30 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: babygene
you can’t just make it up because it’s possible.

The picture I saw posted of the girl being dragged around like a rag doll by two boys (yep, she was out like a fried light bulb) makes it seem not just possible, but likely. To get catatonic like that takes one heck of a lot of alcohol, or some kind of knock out drug.

We can't 100% know, but that picture is fairly convincing.

161 posted on 03/19/2013 8:55:04 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: babygene

You do realize it’s against the law in most states to continue serving alcohol to an intoxicated person?

Once intoxicated, the person cannot give consent to continue drinking - just like a ten year old cannot legally consent to sex, even if s/he says “yes.”


162 posted on 03/19/2013 8:55:12 AM PDT by GSD Lover
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To: AD from SpringBay
But I have yet to meet a woman who solicited for group activities.

Google "bukake."

But my question is that since the girl was 16, does this not also count as a statutory rape?

My understanding is the defendants were also minors.

163 posted on 03/19/2013 8:58:27 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Lakeshark
We can't 100% know, but that picture is fairly convincing.

What percentage do you advocate for admissibility in court?

164 posted on 03/19/2013 9:03:02 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: ladyjane

There’s a huge amount of information that’s known but not reported by the MSM.

http://www.xojane.com/issues/steubenville-rape-verdict-alexandria-goddard

“I Am The Blogger Who Allegedly ‘Complicated’ The Steubenville Gang Rape Case — And I Wouldn’t Change a Thing”

http://www.localleaks.me/localleaks/steubenvillefiles/index.html

“The Steubenville Files”


165 posted on 03/19/2013 9:08:49 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: ladyjane
I never said she deserved what happened. She didn't. I don't know if it was booze or a roofie. It could be either. Stupid (and we all are at times) doesn't mean she was asking for it. It means she wasn't careful. Older guys at a party? Trouble.

In my youth, I've seen more passed out drunks than I'd care to admit. Some were girls and women. Luckily for them I was a different football player than these people. Usually what we did to a passed out drunk was take a magic marker and draw something on the person's face. Our crowd was rowdy, but we didn't take advantage of girls and women. That's a line we didn't cross.

166 posted on 03/19/2013 9:10:05 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: butterdezillion
If the boys didn’t use condoms then she would surely have known she had been raped. If they used condoms then it suggests premeditation on the part of the guys.

*************

I haven't read enough about this case to be knowledgeable of all the particulars. But one question. Wasn't the charge listed as rape via digital penetration?

167 posted on 03/19/2013 9:13:23 AM PDT by deport
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To: papertyger
It wasn't part of the court case at all, it wasn't necessary to convict them of rape.

But since you have proved your own idiocy by claiming she shouldn't be considered a victim, or that this is nothing more than the outcome of a cabal of feminist journalists defaming these innocent boys, why don't you make some other dumb comments on that photograph of her being dragged around like a rag doll (or a stuffed papertyger)?


168 posted on 03/19/2013 9:13:30 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark
To get catatonic like that takes one heck of a lot of alcohol, or some kind of knock out drug.

I've seen it, usually with the underage(18). It wouldn't surprise me come to think of it if it did happen. The perps got the worse conviction, not the "lesser" charge, also a felony.

169 posted on 03/19/2013 9:17:59 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: deport
Wasn't the charge listed as rape via digital penetration?

Yeah. Counts the same under Ohio law.

170 posted on 03/19/2013 9:19:20 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: jjotto
There’s a huge amount of information that’s known but not reported by the MSM.

I question the term "information" when the link gives accolades to "...the thousands of people -- from Anonymous to Roseanne -- who rallied to this young woman's defense...."

171 posted on 03/19/2013 9:19:21 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: fella
After the good factory jobs disapeared, high school football is all that they’ve got left.

I grew up near Steubenville and played for a rival high school a few miles away. I can tell you that, even in the early 80s when there were still a lot of jobs at the mills, high school football was crazy. When we played (Steubenville HS) Big Red, always at their stadium, there would be 10k people there. We'd have to dress in our own locker room and ride the bus with our pads and helmets on because people would throw rocks at us on our way to and from the game. Mays's father was our QB when I was a freshman. My parents always said that if you can say anything nice about someone, don't say anything.

172 posted on 03/19/2013 9:22:08 AM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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To: thesharkboy

Oh yeah, his grandfather was our QB coach. Same policy applies to him.


173 posted on 03/19/2013 9:23:17 AM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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To: Lakeshark
It wasn't part of the court case at all, it wasn't necessary to convict them of rape.

Nice recovery!

" Thousands of people -- from Anonymous to Roseanne..." would be proud of you.

174 posted on 03/19/2013 9:24:45 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Darren McCarty
I saw it once with an 18 year old, so I know it is possible to get that drunk, but it seems to be a somewhat rare occurence. It's also true that the date rape drug is something that would do that approximately 100% of the time. Unless someone steps forward and says they gave it to her, we'll never know.

Did I read it wrong, didn't the two perps only get six months and one year respectively? I realize they got a felony conviction, but that sentence seems a little on the light side to me.

175 posted on 03/19/2013 9:29:18 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark
...or that this is nothing more than the outcome of a cabal of feminist journalists defaming these innocent boys...

Put up or shut up, troll.

176 posted on 03/19/2013 9:30:14 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: papertyger
Sorry, no recovery needed here.

You, on the other hand might never recover from your own stupidity........

177 posted on 03/19/2013 9:31:28 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: jjotto
Coaches house? I used to coach. There was no parties here. The only party at a coaches house when I played was a 'dry' graduation party.

That smells. Sounds like the mafia may still be active in that area. Nearby Youngstown was known for it.

178 posted on 03/19/2013 9:32:08 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Lakeshark

They were convicted as a juvenile.


179 posted on 03/19/2013 9:33:43 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: saminfl

nope.

ALl the cursing and nudity detract from the story. The story is what they are avoiding because they have no creativity


180 posted on 03/19/2013 9:42:57 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Lakeshark
Sorry, no recovery needed here. You, on the other hand might never recover from your own stupidity........

You're right, I'm beginning to think variations on "you're stupid" is your default setting.

Funny how "I'm stupid," but you can't seem to muster anything more incisive than tedious repetition, or false attribution.

181 posted on 03/19/2013 9:43:43 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Darren McCarty

Thanks, that does make sense.


182 posted on 03/19/2013 9:43:53 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: babygene

even if she is a slut, that doesn’t make rape okay


183 posted on 03/19/2013 9:45:01 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: papertyger
Actually variations of stupid seems to be your default setting....

You've been framing this from the very beginning that it wasn't really so bad, not really rape, just consent from 16 year old girl who was just as bad, or just as wrong as the boys; or alternatively journalism exactly like the Zimmerman case.

Now that they've been convicted of rape, you just keep on moving the goal posts, trying to defend what you said.

Same stubborn idiocy, just doubling down on it. Your default setting......

184 posted on 03/19/2013 9:50:12 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: papertyger

They were carrying her around as dead weight, for pete’s sake! How much more “out of it” does a person need to be? How much more “out of it” can a person get?


185 posted on 03/19/2013 10:11:55 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: papertyger

Spotty and inferential? As I understand it, the boys admit they did it, admit that she was out of it, but said they didn’t think they did anything wrong because they didn’t have to force her to do anything. Am I mistaken on that?


186 posted on 03/19/2013 10:14:45 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: 1010RD

AG DeWine is convening a grand jury to investigate.


187 posted on 03/19/2013 10:15:48 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Lakeshark
You've been framing this from the very beginning that it wasn't really so bad, not really rape, just consent from 16 year old girl who was just as bad, or just as wrong as the boys; or alternatively journalism exactly like the Zimmerman case.

No, but I do understand how a person of you limited faculties has to shoehorn your opposition into such convenient little cliches.

I do entertain the possibility this the girl is not the victim self-appointed white knights like you make her out to be, and have risen to task of defending that position (without the use of hearsay, speculation, or self-serving hypotheticals, I might add).

Further, I have maintained the Zimmerman case should make us all wary of conviction by press account.

If that's "stupid" to you, you don't know what stupid means.

And for the record, you'd have a better chance of proving my stupidity if you'd stop stealing my idioms.

188 posted on 03/19/2013 10:17:30 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: babygene

Getting drunk is stupid and this gal was very possibly less than pure.

That doesn’t mean that guys should (either legally or morally) rape her when she’s passed out. Does it?


189 posted on 03/19/2013 10:17:54 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: There's millions of'em

Apparently nobody learned a thing from Penn State...


190 posted on 03/19/2013 10:20:36 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: papertyger

You said, “So far as I can tell, there is nothing that happened to this girl that isn’t regularly solicited by other women every day, so the actual events, degrading as they may be, do not constitute a rape.”

That has to be the stupidest logic I’ve heard in a long, long time.

Some people choose to drink arsenic so somebody forcing arsenic on me is CLEARLY not murder...


191 posted on 03/19/2013 10:22:04 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

What was to be learned from Penn State, their endowment is larger than ever...they had a pretty good season last year, things are looking up for their program....they’re doing great...ok, so they don’t get to go to some lame non-BCS bowl game for a few years, and as it turns out, that might actually be saving them money, seeing as how it’s been documented that schools usually lose money on going to bowl games.


192 posted on 03/19/2013 10:23:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: butterdezillion
They were carrying her around as dead weight, for pete’s sake! How much more “out of it” does a person need to be? How much more “out of it” can a person get?

Admittedly, not much.

However, I have heard no claim that the videos record the entirety of the participants (girl and boys) actions. Without that, and without the girl's recollections, I don't know how a rape charge can be sustained without violating "presumption of innocence."

193 posted on 03/19/2013 10:25:44 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Nifster
since when is it okay for young men to act like animals????

Watched network TV in the last, oh, 20 years?


194 posted on 03/19/2013 10:29:14 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: papertyger

There were witnesses. As I understand it, the guy in the front seat (whose girlfriend talked this girl into going to the party in the first place) admitted that he videotaped 2 guys raping and sodomizing her in the back seat of the car.

If what’s been said here is correct, we now know why that video went missing: the head coach told the guys to get rid of the evidence, which (if so) is also obstruction of justice.

This sounds like a mafia-type place. So dysfunctional that the guys thought they would diminish this girl by the story getting out, when in reality it only exposed their depravity - and apparently the whole place is just as depraved as the guys were. Their excuses and enabling is morally just as much to blame for all this as the boys who acted out what everybody was telling them from the get-go.


195 posted on 03/19/2013 10:34:06 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: papertyger
Why in the world would I want to prove your stupidity when you are doing such a good job all by yourself?

I do entertain the possibility this the girl is not the victim Sorry, you're lying, you portrayed it at all times as she was as guilty as the boys. Now that there has been a verdict not to your liking, you're just sputtering nonsense and trying to move the goal posts as you fumble around.

Further, I have maintained the Zimmerman case should make us all wary of conviction by press account. Uh, I hate to break it to you (realizing you might not actually know this), but THEY WERE CONVICTED BY A JUDGE, THE TRIAL IS ACTUALLY DONE!

Yes, this most certainly is a descriptive picture of you, or something like it:

Oh, and I didn't steal it from you........

196 posted on 03/19/2013 10:34:19 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: butterdezillion
As I understand it, the boys admit they did it, admit that she was out of it, but said they didn’t think they did anything wrong because they didn’t have to force her to do anything. Am I mistaken on that?

I don't know, but I have a hard time believing ANY defense attorney would go into court with nothing but "she wasn't conscious enough to tell them 'no.'"

As I understand it, the defense alleged numerous indications of her cognition and cooperation.

Obviously, the court rejected those claims, but I don't believe that rejection, in and of itself, proves the claims had no merit.

197 posted on 03/19/2013 10:34:39 AM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Lakeshark

There is apparently proof that she became this drunk in less than an hour based on photos taken of her before, which makes it highly likely that she was given a drug, imo.

Now that it is pretty easy to retrieve meta data off of pictures, it’s pretty easy to create a timeline.


198 posted on 03/19/2013 10:35:11 AM PDT by GSD Lover
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To: AD from SpringBay

Age of consent in Ohio is 16.


199 posted on 03/19/2013 10:41:10 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: GSD Lover
There is apparently proof that she became this drunk in less than an hour based on photos taken of her before, which makes it highly likely that she was given a drug, imo

It wouldn't surprise me to find she was drugged, it's seemingly likely that was the case. Unfortunately, we'll never know for certain unless someone confesses to drugging her.

200 posted on 03/19/2013 10:42:38 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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