Skip to comments.Steubenville rape prosecutor confirms threats to her, her family
Posted on 03/18/2013 9:52:27 PM PDT by Reagan‹berAllesEdited on 03/19/2013 4:27:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
STEUBENVILLE - Jefferson County Prosecutor Jane Hanlin and her family had to leave town during the juvenile rape trial because of threats made against both her and her family.
Sunday evening, Hanlin confirmed that threats had been made, and she found them to be credible. Hanlin said there were instances of threats before, but the number of threats of a specific nature grew.
"As the trial date grew closer, we received a number of them that seemed to be more credible than others," Hanlin said.
“After a certain point, yes, alcohol was forced on her.”
How do you force alcohol on someone? I suppose it would be possible if they set up an IV, but handing a drunk a drink is not forcing it on them. By your way of thinking, a bartender filling a glass would be forcing it on the customer...
“Any evidence of a date rape drug wont be there after 12 hours.”
Could very well be, I have no idea. But you can’t just make it up because it’s possible.
Just saw a twit that said the Coach may face charges for failing to report. Allegedly he told the crew he would “take care of it” and it has been reported that he instructed the rapists and witnesses to delete all the pics and videos from their phones.....
Evading her legal guardians' oversight, ignoring the advice of her peers, prior statements, unlawful intoxication, lack of a comprehensive recording of the events in lieu of her recollections...etc.
So far as I can tell, there is nothing that happened to this girl that isn't regularly solicited by other women every day, so the actual events, degrading as they may be, do not constitute a rape.
What would constitute rape, seems to be conspicuously absent without comprehensive recordings or admissions of guilt.
Not only women problems, this one is vying for the dumbest FR posts ever, sort of like someone trying to defend our current oval office resident as one who cuts spending and is a tremendous job creator.....
Dumbest. Posts. Ever. Not a particularly enviable track record to be proud of..........
Does anyone think that movies like Shane and The Searchers would be better using the f-word?
Who admitted to, or observed the admission of, this drug?
Heard on the news there may be more charges coming.
Based on the current prevalence of the date rape drug, I’d say it’s not just possible something was slipped in her drunk, it’s quite likely.
No one leaves a drink around in a bar these days. The kids hold onto it, keep it close, and watch it constantly. At a house party people are more relaxed but it’s still not safe. Given that the boys apparently did this once before and the girl was totally out of it then, I’d say she was probably given a drug.
The picture I saw posted of the girl being dragged around like a rag doll by two boys (yep, she was out like a fried light bulb) makes it seem not just possible, but likely. To get catatonic like that takes one heck of a lot of alcohol, or some kind of knock out drug.
We can't 100% know, but that picture is fairly convincing.
You do realize it’s against the law in most states to continue serving alcohol to an intoxicated person?
Once intoxicated, the person cannot give consent to continue drinking - just like a ten year old cannot legally consent to sex, even if s/he says “yes.”
But my question is that since the girl was 16, does this not also count as a statutory rape?
My understanding is the defendants were also minors.
What percentage do you advocate for admissibility in court?
There’s a huge amount of information that’s known but not reported by the MSM.
“I Am The Blogger Who Allegedly ‘Complicated’ The Steubenville Gang Rape Case — And I Wouldn’t Change a Thing”
“The Steubenville Files”
In my youth, I've seen more passed out drunks than I'd care to admit. Some were girls and women. Luckily for them I was a different football player than these people. Usually what we did to a passed out drunk was take a magic marker and draw something on the person's face. Our crowd was rowdy, but we didn't take advantage of girls and women. That's a line we didn't cross.
I haven't read enough about this case to be knowledgeable of all the particulars. But one question. Wasn't the charge listed as rape via digital penetration?
But since you have proved your own idiocy by claiming she shouldn't be considered a victim, or that this is nothing more than the outcome of a cabal of feminist journalists defaming these innocent boys, why don't you make some other dumb comments on that photograph of her being dragged around like a rag doll (or a stuffed papertyger)?
I've seen it, usually with the underage(18). It wouldn't surprise me come to think of it if it did happen. The perps got the worse conviction, not the "lesser" charge, also a felony.
Yeah. Counts the same under Ohio law.
I question the term "information" when the link gives accolades to "...the thousands of people -- from Anonymous to Roseanne -- who rallied to this young woman's defense...."
I grew up near Steubenville and played for a rival high school a few miles away. I can tell you that, even in the early 80s when there were still a lot of jobs at the mills, high school football was crazy. When we played (Steubenville HS) Big Red, always at their stadium, there would be 10k people there. We'd have to dress in our own locker room and ride the bus with our pads and helmets on because people would throw rocks at us on our way to and from the game. Mays's father was our QB when I was a freshman. My parents always said that if you can say anything nice about someone, don't say anything.
Oh yeah, his grandfather was our QB coach. Same policy applies to him.
" Thousands of people -- from Anonymous to Roseanne..." would be proud of you.
Did I read it wrong, didn't the two perps only get six months and one year respectively? I realize they got a felony conviction, but that sentence seems a little on the light side to me.
Put up or shut up, troll.
You, on the other hand might never recover from your own stupidity........
That smells. Sounds like the mafia may still be active in that area. Nearby Youngstown was known for it.
They were convicted as a juvenile.
ALl the cursing and nudity detract from the story. The story is what they are avoiding because they have no creativity
You're right, I'm beginning to think variations on "you're stupid" is your default setting.
Funny how "I'm stupid," but you can't seem to muster anything more incisive than tedious repetition, or false attribution.
Thanks, that does make sense.
even if she is a slut, that doesn’t make rape okay
You've been framing this from the very beginning that it wasn't really so bad, not really rape, just consent from 16 year old girl who was just as bad, or just as wrong as the boys; or alternatively journalism exactly like the Zimmerman case.
Now that they've been convicted of rape, you just keep on moving the goal posts, trying to defend what you said.
Same stubborn idiocy, just doubling down on it. Your default setting......
They were carrying her around as dead weight, for pete’s sake! How much more “out of it” does a person need to be? How much more “out of it” can a person get?
Spotty and inferential? As I understand it, the boys admit they did it, admit that she was out of it, but said they didn’t think they did anything wrong because they didn’t have to force her to do anything. Am I mistaken on that?
AG DeWine is convening a grand jury to investigate.
No, but I do understand how a person of you limited faculties has to shoehorn your opposition into such convenient little cliches.
I do entertain the possibility this the girl is not the victim self-appointed white knights like you make her out to be, and have risen to task of defending that position (without the use of hearsay, speculation, or self-serving hypotheticals, I might add).
Further, I have maintained the Zimmerman case should make us all wary of conviction by press account.
If that's "stupid" to you, you don't know what stupid means.
And for the record, you'd have a better chance of proving my stupidity if you'd stop stealing my idioms.
Getting drunk is stupid and this gal was very possibly less than pure.
That doesn’t mean that guys should (either legally or morally) rape her when she’s passed out. Does it?
Apparently nobody learned a thing from Penn State...
You said, “So far as I can tell, there is nothing that happened to this girl that isn’t regularly solicited by other women every day, so the actual events, degrading as they may be, do not constitute a rape.”
That has to be the stupidest logic I’ve heard in a long, long time.
Some people choose to drink arsenic so somebody forcing arsenic on me is CLEARLY not murder...
What was to be learned from Penn State, their endowment is larger than ever...they had a pretty good season last year, things are looking up for their program....they’re doing great...ok, so they don’t get to go to some lame non-BCS bowl game for a few years, and as it turns out, that might actually be saving them money, seeing as how it’s been documented that schools usually lose money on going to bowl games.
Admittedly, not much.
However, I have heard no claim that the videos record the entirety of the participants (girl and boys) actions. Without that, and without the girl's recollections, I don't know how a rape charge can be sustained without violating "presumption of innocence."
Watched network TV in the last, oh, 20 years?
There were witnesses. As I understand it, the guy in the front seat (whose girlfriend talked this girl into going to the party in the first place) admitted that he videotaped 2 guys raping and sodomizing her in the back seat of the car.
If what’s been said here is correct, we now know why that video went missing: the head coach told the guys to get rid of the evidence, which (if so) is also obstruction of justice.
This sounds like a mafia-type place. So dysfunctional that the guys thought they would diminish this girl by the story getting out, when in reality it only exposed their depravity - and apparently the whole place is just as depraved as the guys were. Their excuses and enabling is morally just as much to blame for all this as the boys who acted out what everybody was telling them from the get-go.
I do entertain the possibility this the girl is not the victim Sorry, you're lying, you portrayed it at all times as she was as guilty as the boys. Now that there has been a verdict not to your liking, you're just sputtering nonsense and trying to move the goal posts as you fumble around.
Further, I have maintained the Zimmerman case should make us all wary of conviction by press account. Uh, I hate to break it to you (realizing you might not actually know this), but THEY WERE CONVICTED BY A JUDGE, THE TRIAL IS ACTUALLY DONE!
Yes, this most certainly is a descriptive picture of you, or something like it:
Oh, and I didn't steal it from you........
I don't know, but I have a hard time believing ANY defense attorney would go into court with nothing but "she wasn't conscious enough to tell them 'no.'"
As I understand it, the defense alleged numerous indications of her cognition and cooperation.
Obviously, the court rejected those claims, but I don't believe that rejection, in and of itself, proves the claims had no merit.
There is apparently proof that she became this drunk in less than an hour based on photos taken of her before, which makes it highly likely that she was given a drug, imo.
Now that it is pretty easy to retrieve meta data off of pictures, it’s pretty easy to create a timeline.
Age of consent in Ohio is 16.
It wouldn't surprise me to find she was drugged, it's seemingly likely that was the case. Unfortunately, we'll never know for certain unless someone confesses to drugging her.