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Rand Paul Wins: Changing of the Guard?
washingtonpost.com ^ | March 7, 2013 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 03/07/2013 1:17:52 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion

Earlier today, I noted that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) were on opposite sides of a generational divide in the GOP that goes beyond ideology. That flared into an open spat as McCain, along with his closest amigo, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), openly slammed Paul, calling him “uninformed.” Graham pronounced that Paul didn’t deserve an answer. McCain hissed: “The country needs more senators who care about liberty, but if Mr. Paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college dorms. He needs to know what he’s talking about.” That peevish retort may have reflected McCain’s sense that he had been badly upstaged. Or maybe he hadn’t followed the debate.

Then, with near-perfect timing, Paul got his response in a two-sentence letter from Attorney General Eric Holder. The first sentence was dishonest: “It has come to my attention you have now asked an additional question: ‘Does the President have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil?’” In fact, that was Paul’s question all along. But Holder then admitted, no, the U.S. government doesn’t have the authority to target U.S. citizens at home who are not involved in hostilities.

Rand Paul got to crow in a series of interviews. He had pried an answer out of a White House habitually averse to treating a co-equal branch with respect. He certainly got more done than Graham and McCain did last night by attending a Georgetown dinner with the president, a White House move no doubt intended to reverse the president’s slide in the polls and make it seem like he was reaching out to Republicans.

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To: dforest
Palin needs to come out now and break from McCain. She paid her dues to him. She needs to think of her future. McCain is done!

Conservatives should really start looking for a new and more credible standard-bearer and stop pretending that Sarah Palin is still their one and only great white hope.

I'm not saying that Rand Paul is the perfect candidate by any means, but he's a lot more credible than someone who quits her job as governor in favor of giving speeches and appearing on ridiculous reality shows.

51 posted on 03/07/2013 3:34:26 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Maceman
OK.

I have been under the misapprehension that the "passive voice" meant rearranging a sentence to sound less "active," particularly when describing something that could be taken as controversial.

Therefore, instead of saying "John McCain got in a public argument with Ron Paul," the author writes "an argument flared up between John McCain and Ron Paul." As if John McCain and Ron Paul were both going about their daily doings, and then all of a sudden this big ol' argument just somehow flared up between them. "Where'd that come from?" McCain asked. "I don't know but I wish it'd go away," Paul sighed.

I guess I thought that the term "passive voice" described a a writers mannerism which I find annoying, when in fact it describes something else. Thanks for enlightening me.

52 posted on 03/07/2013 3:34:28 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Andrei Bulba

His girlfriend, Ms. Lindsay, showed her ample fanny, too and it’s up for re-election next time. : )

These two have done a total diservice to the consitution and two party political system in the US. They have not had an independent thought about reform in years. They are both out of touch elitists.

Nice to hear from two American-Americans (Rand and Cruz) for a change. I hope they ask Jan the Man, Director of the KGB, if they are terrorists for supporting the constitution like the rest of us have been classified and whether she’s found any bombs in the children’s panties at the airports. These people are criminally insane.


53 posted on 03/07/2013 3:44:08 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: ek_hornbeck
I'm not saying that Rand Paul is the perfect candidate by any means, but he's a lot more credible than someone who quits her job as governor in favor of giving speeches and appearing on ridiculous reality shows.

Get back to me after you go educate yourself, PDS'er:

Palin, the Alaska Bloggers and "Ethicsgate"

Sarah Palin, Barack Obama, And The Cost Of Fighting Chicago Thug Politics

54 posted on 03/07/2013 3:47:51 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“But Holder then admitted, no, the U.S. government doesn’t have the authority to target U.S. citizens at home who are not involved in hostilities.”

Awww. Guess he’ll have to keep doing it the old fashioned way, by giving guns to drug cartels and letting them blow away a few border agents.


55 posted on 03/07/2013 3:54:52 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

That is not a sure thing.

He’s at least as American as Obama. Let me put it that way.

:)


56 posted on 03/07/2013 4:09:16 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: EricT.
.... palace eunuchs...

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The visual is too real...

57 posted on 03/07/2013 4:19:35 PM PST by pointsal
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To: SVTCobra03

See:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/rand_paul_big_israeli_surprise_JmD4Sb95lH5CzvbHntJgEL

Many have said that Rand Paul is against aid to Israel. He’s against foreign aid... period. And not specifically against foreign aid to Israel - but that’s the way it’s been reported mostly.

And his position against foreign aid is much like his view on welfare and other interventions - it hurts the free market economy to give ‘transfer payments’ - esp. when the US has to borrow from China to give to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Israel, or any other country.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/rand_paul_big_israeli_surprise_JmD4Sb95lH5CzvbHntJgEL

“In Jerusalem last week, the senator met a broad range of leaders, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres, as well as Naftali Bennett, a rising right-wing leader aligned with the settler movement.

The Jerusalem Post quoted Paul addressing questions about what Israel should do about the settlements and Gaza. “Well,” he replied, “America should and does have an opinion about these things, but ultimately these are decisions you have to make.”

There hasn’t been such a supportive comment on Israel’s settlements in the West Bank and in Jerusalem since Sarah Palin last spoke on the subject. Her comments drove the left up the wall.

Paul also voiced support on Gaza: “I don’t think you need to call me on the phone and get permission to stop missiles raining down from Gaza.” He seems to want Israel to have a free hand in its own affairs, which dovetails with his wariness on foreign aid.

When he talked about foreign aid, he stood by his longtime contention that it would be a good thing to reduce such transfers. This view has been pressed by some pro-Israel voices in this country, in that aid has subsidized statist economic measures and retarded free-market development.”


58 posted on 03/07/2013 4:24:31 PM PST by Kent C
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To: hadaclueonce
what Americans do not realize that McCain was a terrible pilot who got his plane shot down.

Five times, which qualifies him as an enemy ace.

59 posted on 03/07/2013 4:30:45 PM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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To: dfwgator

BTTT


60 posted on 03/07/2013 4:51:44 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: MadIsh32
I'd rather follow Rand than the last 3 Presidents. All have abused their power by getting us involved in unconstitutional wars.

It's time to cut off the imperial presidency ...

61 posted on 03/07/2013 5:02:06 PM PST by 11th_VA (DRONES DON'T KILL, PRESIDENTS KILL ...)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I certainly trust Rand Paul more than the likes of McLame.


62 posted on 03/07/2013 5:11:16 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: MadIsh32

1) Can you show me where in the Constitution the Federal government is authorized to outlaw marijuana across the entire country, even when there is no interstate traffic thereof? Let states and local communities decide the issue. The Founders didn’t leave that kind of issue to the federal government.

2) Regarding the military, why do we need to spend billions of dollars a year to keep foreigners half the world away from killing each other like animals?


63 posted on 03/07/2013 5:38:27 PM PST by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: ek_hornbeck
ek_hornbeck Since Feb 6, 2013

I was following along until I read this-

someone who quits her job as governor

That's where you lost any credibility. You're either a PDS'er spouting discredited libtard talking points, or just plain ignorant. Funny, since you were talking about credibility.

64 posted on 03/07/2013 5:55:13 PM PST by Moorings
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To: hadaclueonce
I believe he lost three planes which is why we referred to him as Ace during his run.
65 posted on 03/07/2013 6:09:43 PM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I hope this sinks in with the whole “you aren’t a real conservative if you are a libertarian” set on here. I believe this is a real wakeup call for the leadership of the GOP... or at least the really dim bulbs that keep voting for this failed leadership.


66 posted on 03/07/2013 6:31:08 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: SVTCobra03

“Rand Paul needs to show me that he is not anti-Semitic.”

Does the rest of the GOP also need to show you that they are not spineless empty suits?


67 posted on 03/07/2013 6:36:41 PM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

This is only the opening salvo of a battle to re-take the Senate from the Progressive/Liberals. Rand Paul is a needed figure to focus the rage of the nation over the Vichy Republicans and the old guard. Even Democrats are growing restless and chaffing at the bite. I believe I can hear the fife and drums of the Tea Party warming up! Sarah Palin, got that new flag ready for us? You aint seen nothin’ yet!


68 posted on 03/07/2013 7:17:39 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: MadIsh32

A big HELL YEAH to that!!!!


69 posted on 03/07/2013 7:59:33 PM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

McCain and Graham had a real hissy fit over this - priggy Graham going so far as to say the issue about Americans getting hit by a drone while drinking coffee was not even worthy of discussion - methinks there was a big bit of jealousy in their reaction - the guard, with the likes of Paul, Rubio, and Cruz, looks like it is changing - and leaving John and Lindsey way behind.....


70 posted on 03/07/2013 9:30:01 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: MadIsh32
His view of the US military’s role in the world

Yes, send devastation, not troops.

legalization of marijuana/hemp

Sure, why not? Then the RATs will be too stoned to bother with voting.

71 posted on 03/07/2013 9:42:54 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

If Cruz, born to two American citizens is a Canadian then Juan CaMe is from Panama.


72 posted on 03/07/2013 9:44:44 PM PST by WilliamRobert (God Bless Texas)
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To: Steely Tom
I love the passive voice here.

Yes, the passive voice is ordinarily to try to avoid stating the obvious.

The quintessential example--and the one that invariably sends chills up my back--is the old saw, "Mistakes were made"...

73 posted on 03/07/2013 10:10:22 PM PST by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Steely Tom; Maceman
A good test of whether a sentence employing an active voice or a passive voice is to add the phrase by zombies to it. For example:

Mistakes were made by zombies. The sentence makes sense and it is passive voice.
I made mistakes by zombies. This does not make sense and is therefore active voice.

In passive voice, the subject is what is acted upon by the verb. In active voice, the direct object is what receives the action. While some disdain the use of passive voice, especially in formal reports such as theses, passive voice is a good tool when desiring to keep a certain subject as the primary focus of the writing.

74 posted on 03/07/2013 11:17:40 PM PST by Jemian
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To: ek_hornbeck
Welcome to Free Republic. Do you also go by Joe McGinniss? How did you like living in Wasilla that summer?
75 posted on 03/07/2013 11:49:12 PM PST by Jemian
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To: AmericanExceptionalist
Yes, the passive voice is ordinarily to try to avoid stating the obvious.

Exactly. It is that characteristic of what people refer to as the "passive voice" that I - erroneously as it turns out - inferred to be its definition.

Thus, I latched on to a more abstract characteristic of the "passive voice" and substituted that characteristic for a definition.

In a sense, what I did was similar (or at least a cousin to) a mondegreen which is another thing I've learned about recently. A mondegreen (if you've not heard of it) is when one hears "there's a bathroom on the right" as the singer is singing "there's a bad moon on the rise."

76 posted on 03/08/2013 5:34:12 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

AZ GOP voters should be ashamed of themselves for not retiring McCain. The good voters of Indiana kicked Lugar out or he would have been enjoying the msm’s attention by clucking about Paul’s inappropriate filibuster, too.

The old moss-backs of the Republican Party should be primaries at every opportunity. They are no longer fit to serve.


77 posted on 03/08/2013 5:40:16 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I may not agree with everything Rand Paul says and stands for, but he has definitely raised questions that needed to be raised and highlighted issues that needed to be highlighted. He is doing what leaders do, and if leadership of the party shifts in his direction then I have no doubt that he’ll do a better job than the current crop of party leaders have been doing.


78 posted on 03/08/2013 5:52:23 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: BarnacleCenturion

When Tea Party mentality Senators and Reps outnumber GOP bluebloods and RINOs, then we’ll have a changing of the guard.

Not before.

Pogues like McCain and Graham can and will do damage to us. They can’t be trusted.


79 posted on 03/08/2013 7:21:59 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: CitizenUSA
I don’t know the details of Rand Paul’s views on the military, but I certainly support a less interventionist military policy. If he means to get us out of Team America: World Police while maintaining a very strong national defense, then I’m for it.

I'm pleased to see many Republicans move in the direction of a less knee-jerk interventionist foreign policy. The focus of defense spending should be national defense, not nation building or keeping the peace between feuding tribes and sects in God-forsaken places.

Unfortunately, I suspect that this skepticism towards global policing and nation-building will be short-lived. While I'm pleased that most Republicans oppose intervention in Syria's civil war, I suspect that they only do so because it's under the watch of a Democratic President. If Bush (or, more to the point, McCain or Romney) were President, we'd probably have troops in Syria already with full backing of the party. All too often, it's not about the policy but about who is pushing it - so Democrats give their own a free pass on what they criticize Republicans for doing, and vice-versa.

80 posted on 03/08/2013 10:13:34 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Moorings
It's funny how hostile people become when faced with the slightest criticism of their idols, reminds me of the teenagers who get all up in arms when their favorite pop star is ridiculed. I've seen Palin being hyped as the great white hope of conservatism since 2008, and I've seen very little of substance to back this up. I've seen and heard a lot of feel-good, folksy-sounding empty slogans and cliches from her, but very little in the way of substantive ideas or concrete fiscal policy proposals.

She's the GOP's version of "hope" and "change", a telegenic cheerleader, and nothing more. None of your name-calling (I don't know and don't care to know what a PDSer is) is going to change that.

81 posted on 03/08/2013 10:16:06 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: Steely Tom
In a sense, what I did was similar (or at least a cousin to) a mondegreen which is another thing I've learned about recently. A mondegreen (if you've not heard of it) is when one hears "there's a bathroom on the right" as the singer is singing "there's a bad moon on the rise."

I was not previously familiar with the word; so I looked it up.

According to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, it means "a word or phrase that results from a mishearing of something said or sung <“very close veins” is a mondegreen for “varicose veins”>."

In other words, just about exactly what you said...

82 posted on 03/08/2013 5:24:17 PM PST by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Another one is “sixty-five roses” for “cystic fibrosis.”


83 posted on 03/08/2013 5:35:08 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: ek_hornbeck
Its funny you complain about hostility to criticism about Palin, and then you claim you don't know what PDS means

slightest criticism

You dish out one of the main talking points of libs, the quitter meme. When you are called out for that, you do the usual PDSer tactic, play the victim and claim that you are just providing a bit of honest criticism. "Oh Noooes, those meanie Palinistas are attacking poor ole me for criticizing Palin."

Who is your idol? Karl Rove? It seems like he does not like the people we support either.

84 posted on 03/08/2013 5:56:20 PM PST by Moorings
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To: Jemian
In passive voice, the subject is what is acted upon by the verb. In active voice, the direct object is what receives the action. While some disdain the use of passive voice, especially in formal reports such as theses, passive voice is a good tool when desiring to keep a certain subject as the primary focus of the writing.

Passive voice is awesome; just consider the Second Amendment:
A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Look at how it fares with your zombies-test:
"A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed by zombies."

85 posted on 03/08/2013 6:04:54 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Time for a Coup, take over the GOP......... PRONTO (latino pandering).


86 posted on 03/10/2013 9:41:30 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: dforest

“Palin needs to come out now and break from McCain.”

Palin is done as a major political power. The media, with the aid of McC, sliced her up, fed her entrails to the pigs and hung her out to dry.


87 posted on 03/10/2013 9:52:30 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (It only takes one to start hostilities. It takes two to agree to end them.)
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To: dforest

“Palin needs to come out now and break from McCain.”

Palin is done as a major political power. The media, with the aid of McC, sliced her up, fed her entrails to the pigs and hung her out to dry.


88 posted on 03/10/2013 10:45:09 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (It only takes one to start hostilities. It takes two to agree to end them.)
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