DOJ: Children Do Not Need—and Have No Right to--Mothers

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[Sub-Driver]

DOJ: Children Do Not Need—and Have No Right to--Mothers March 3, 2013 By Terence P. Jeffrey

Georgetown Law School. (AP Photo/Haraz Ghanbari) (CNSNews.com) - The Obama Justice Department is arguing in the United States Supreme Court that children do not need mothers.

The Justice Department’s argument on the superfluity of motherhood is presented in a brief the Obama administration filed in the case of Hollingsworth v. Perry, which challenges the constitutionality of Proposition 8, the California ballot initiative that amended California’s Constitution to say that marriage involves only one man and one woman.

The Justice Department presented its conclusions about parenthood in rebutting an argument made by proponents of Proposition 8 that the traditional two-parent family, led by both a mother and a father, was the ideal place, determined even by nature itself, to raise a child.

The Obama administration argues this is not true. It argues that children need neither a father nor a mother and that having two fathers or two mothers is just as good as having one of each.

“The [California] Voter Guide arguably offered a distinct but related child-rearing justification for Proposition 8: 'the best situation for a child is to be raised by a married mother and father,’” said the administration’s brief submitted to the court by Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli Jr.

“As an initial matter, no sound basis exists for concluding that same-sex couples who have committed to marriage are anything other than fully capable of responsible parenting and child-rearing,” the Department of Justice told the court. “To the contrary, many leading medical, psychological, and social-welfare organizations have issued policy statements opposing restrictions on gay and lesbian parenting based on their conclusion, supported by numerous scientific studies, that...

[Smokin' Joe]

On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie.

This is where Marx was fundamentally wrong. The family existed primarily for survival. After that, for surviving better. The better the family did, the more likely its progeny would continue, the more likely its genetics would survive and be passed on.

One of the essential problems with intellectuals of Marx's stripe is that they think they can overcome fundamental forces of nature (in this case the will to survive and procreate). Such essential delusions condemn their philosophies to failure, no matter who undertakes them.

[444Flyer]

Ping.

About two months until Mother's Day. Wonder if it will be outlawed as ‘discriminatory’.

[Girlene]

Absolutely, xzins. Not only during labor, but the nine months prior. From the article:

The Justice Department presented its conclusions about parenthood in rebutting an argument made by proponents of Proposition 8 that the traditional two-parent family, led by both a mother and a father, was the ideal place, determined even by nature itself, to raise a child.

The Obama administration argues this is not true. It argues that children need neither a father nor a mother and that having two fathers or two mothers is just as good as having one of each.

When it comes to children, they deserve the closest environment to the ideal which is two biological parents in a committed marriage.

It is known that wild animals have helped raise/feed children who have been abondoned to the wild. Just because they are capable of providing some form of care, not the best obviously, should they be given the same standing in adopting children as the ideal? Of course not.

The DOJ is trying to argue that there is no difference between two mommies, two daddies, two anything and the ideal. Saw a study published just recently which DID show a difference in children raised in various parenting situations. Again, the ideal - two bioligical parents had children with the least problems.

[manc]

I’d like to know when people will wake up to what the homosexual agenda is really about.

It;s not about love, nor is it about Govt of business or even it;s their private business.

It;s a step about taking children and brainwshing into them thinking families are not about a mother and a father, it;s about making the family be destroyed and it;s about a step into a bigger agenda whilst our children are brainwashed and took control by the elitist.

Even on here we get a couple every now and again pretending to be conservatives but saying thye have no problem with this agenda or them saying they know a couple and they;re nice .

[neverdem]

Thank you. This could get very interesting. It's not just the huge Regnerus study.

Same-sex parenting and children’s outcomes: A closer examination of the American psychological association’s brief on lesbian and gay parenting

[XenaLee]

"The hard left is doing their utmost to destroy the culture and bring on the Borg collective. These freaks have become totally unhinged."

Who is unhinged here? After all....we're the ones letting them get away with it.

[XenaLee]

"The hard left is doing their utmost to destroy the culture and bring on the Borg collective. These freaks have become totally unhinged."

Who is unhinged here? After all....we're the ones letting them get away with it.

[XenaLee]

"The hard left is doing their utmost to destroy the culture and bring on the Borg collective. These freaks have become totally unhinged."

Who is unhinged here? After all....we're the ones letting them get away with it.

[Windflier]

Who is unhinged here? After all....we're the ones letting them get away with it.

We're not unhinged....we're just pensive. I'd say that over half the country has been driven nearly to the breaking point by Obama and the Dems over the last five years.

Millions of good people have had their nerves frayed to the point of snapping, by the constant, never-ending threats to our way of life from this administration.

A people can only take so much. Comes a point where the pain forces them to actively resist their oppressor. Who knows what the real breaking point will be, but I think we can all agree that the country is like a bone dry prairie, just waiting for the right spark to ignite an inextinguishable fire.

[a fool in paradise]

The only mothers who have rights are those who abort their babies.

[itssme]

EVERYONE: Stop already with the negativism. We the People ARE NOT TOAST. Oboma’s “world” is the ideology he is trying to force upon us, We the People. Oboma the Socilist’s world IS NOT OUR WORLD. And it is up to us to be the freedom fighters of wars past...google the word and find out who they were, what they did and how they did it. We must refuse, delay, obstruct and sabotage any and all oboma’s attempts to destroy the Constitution, our freedom, liberty, RIGHTS. We must encourage others to do the same. We need to present a POSITIVE front to the enemy...negative commentary is detrimental to our success.

We must join forces with like-minded people with whom we can discuss ideas, plans on how we are going to take this country BACK from socialist oboma. We must join organizations like The Tea Party, Tea Party Patriots, www.oathkeepers.org, and seek out and SUPPORT worthy Conservative candidates for election. We must become involved in the voting process. AS LONG AS the left has control over the voting process and their ability to commit voter fraud, over the decision of who will supply the voting machines, some of which were coded by the left to change the name of a Republican/Conservative candidate to that of the Socialist-Democrat candidate without the knowledge of the voter, (something we found out about after the elections - google this to find out more), WE CANNOT WIN. Be sure to vote in the primaries. Be sure to volunteer to be a watcher, judge. Demand that the Republican Party support Voter ID, and BE VOCAL and IN THEIR FACE about this. Without the work and support of millions of freedom loving boots on the ground, on a state by state basis, we cannot crush oboma. Keep your election boards independent of party favoritism..you don't want one party to take control of your election board. And remember, none of this can be accomplished unless we all participate NOW, in any way we can.

So, rather than hash over the same old rhetoric, what are We the People, what is the Tea Party, Tea Party Patriots going to do about the voting process in this country under the control of socialist oboma? Are we going to be as organized, as dedicated as the left is, in OUR quest to win back this country? You'll notice the left never stops fighting for what they want, like a dog with a bone, they will not let go until they destroy this country completely.

And what about We the People? Do we have the fire in our bellies to sacrifice our time, our money, our effort to win this fight and destroy socialist oboma and his ilk? What we DO need is leadership. We must get rid of Boehner and McConnell, or the Republican Party as it now stands IS TOAST in this case, if they refuse to embrace Conservative candidates, Conservative politicians now in office. We need a Conservative leader and that we must work toward..NOW.

Does anyone have further input on what we must do?

[a fool in paradise]

Same sex couples claimed that it was about the actions of consenting ADULTS in PRIVATE. When does the child consent to being brought into an “alternative lifestyle” household and why is this crap being pushed on children in primary school?

Corrupting minors is about perverting their notions of “civilized society”.

“Animals do it” is no defense of the practice of homosexuality. Dogs eat excrement as well (and calling that your “lifestyle” affords the practice no protections).

[itssme]

I agree with you, and I'd like to make these comments to everyone. Though the left has no religion except socialism, communism, marxism, we must remember that in the Bible, IT WAS ADAM AND EVE IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN. THERE WAS nooooooo ADAM AND STEVE. The union of a heterosexual man and heterosexual woman, BECAUSE THEY BOTH can pro-create, is as old as time. And for a reason. The nuclear family, as defined above, is the backbone of our American culture, and no socialist, communist, marxist is going to change OUR culture. WE WILL NOT BECOME THE COLLECTIVE FOR OBOMA. WE ARE NOT THE BORG...google the BORG if you're not familiar with this reference. Like anti-gun legislation, we will go to war in this country over this issue if socialist oboma attempts to change OUR culture.

[onyx]

To argue that a child does not need a mother is to argue against biology itself.
No one comes into this world without the labor of a mother.

You're so right. This Marxist regime is denying human reality.

[metmom]

“Animals do it” is no defense of the practice of homosexuality.

I find it ironic and amusing that homosexuals compare themselves to animals to justify their lifestyles.

Really, if one of us *breeders* made the comparison, it'd be hate speech.

But if they want to compare themselves to animals, who am I to argue?

[xzins]

Anyone that obsessed with arguing with the laws of nature itself is rejecting the Creator, Nature’s God.

How many culture’s have you ever in your life heard of that would argue a child does not need a mother?

Not only is it an aberration in all of human history, but it is twisted. As girlene pointed out, just because some child might have survived with dogs, doesn’t mean dogs are suddenly on a par with the natural family.

[Girlene]

How many culture’s have you ever in your life heard of that would argue a child does not need a mother?

The homosexual and liberal culture.

[littleharbour]

A very adroit reference Mr. McGee. Everyone should read or re-read the Aldous Huxley classic “Brave New World” published in 1931. It describes the logical outcome of a forced “utopia”, where procreation is left to government run incubators, sex is purely for pleasure and the government sedates the population with drugs. Huxley envisioned a world 600 years in the future. There are those among us who would, if they had the power, impose it on us today.

[MacMattico]

Children that are abandoned by one parent or the other, many times even if that parent was not a good one, go through a mourning period because they have the need and yearning for a mother and a father.

My daughter, adopted as an infant, loves my husband and I as Mommy and Daddy but as she approaches her teens, I know there will be issues that come up dealing with the fact that her biological parents put her up for adoption. If she had been adopted by two men or two women, I believe the problems faced in adolescence would be much worse.

[xzins]

This 21st century American liberal, homosexual culture is the only one I know of arguing that a child doesn’t need a mother.

I’ve heard of ideas attributed to some communist societies wondering what it would be like for the government to seize all children and raise all children, but none of them ever took that step so far as I know.