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NYT GOES BIRTHER: ATTACKS 'CANADIAN-BORN' CRUZ, CALLS HIM 'MCCARTHYITE'
Big Journalism ^ | Feb 16 , 2013 | Tony Lee & Stephen K. Bannon

Posted on 02/17/2013 6:52:48 AM PST by SMGFan

Liberals, the mainstream media, and establishment Republicans often reveal which conservatives they fear by their level of disdain and vitriol.

This week, they put their crosshairs on freshman Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), a Tea Party conservative of Hispanic descent who undermines the mainstream media's ability to advance their false notion that being a minority and Tea Partier are mutually exclusive. He is a conservative who showed no desire to defer to the Senate's "courtly" ways, the preferences of the institution's old bulls.

The sinking ship that is the New York Times, the so-called paper of record, provided evidence of what it fears most in its Saturday edition: strong, distinct full-throated conservative voices from folks who ain't "country club," geriatric, and white. The Washington Post and Politico joined the times in assailing Cruz this week for similar reasons. The Times did a thorough review of the freshman senator's stunning seven-week run:

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthers; cruz; naturalborncitizen; tedcruz
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MSM & Liberals tell us who they fear , just like Rubio. Credit Rush.
1 posted on 02/17/2013 6:52:57 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

They have a lot more to fear from Cruz regardless of whether he’s eligible to run for president or not.


2 posted on 02/17/2013 6:58:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Just what we need, new senators coming into DC and being assimilated into the machine....its worked so well for the past 50 years</sarcasm>...don’t know much about this Cruz fellow, but anyone willing to shake up the status-quo is OK in my book.

Why even have confirmation hearings if it is already pre-determined that someone should be confirmed?


3 posted on 02/17/2013 7:06:06 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: qwerty1234
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4 posted on 02/17/2013 7:09:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SMGFan

Libs are most vociferous agains Republicans who happen to be of non=caucasian ancestry . . . Cruz, Rubio, West . . . racist much?


5 posted on 02/17/2013 7:10:13 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: SMGFan

it is painfull obvious the left wing media sets their news by reading the NYT. No news gathering or thought.

Chris Mathers looked LITERALLY drunk this morning.

The mccarthy meme does not counter the fact mccarthy was 100% right about the communists.


6 posted on 02/17/2013 7:22:39 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SMGFan

The racists at the NYT only attack conservative minority members who don’t know their place. And of course, “their place” is feeding at the government trough with Democrat minority members.


7 posted on 02/17/2013 7:24:52 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: longtermmemmory

“The mccarthy meme does not counter the fact mccarthy was 100% right about the communists.”

Why would they let the facts taint their opinion! Ever notice there was little mention of the commies and fellow travelors in the government in the 30s-50’s when those details became known after the fall of the USSR? Little mention of Ted the Swimmer’s activities either. The press makes me sick.


8 posted on 02/17/2013 7:28:25 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: SMGFan

The NYT are racist and that is not a joke.

I guarantee you if hispanics started voting republican, liberals would start depicting illegal immigrants as the most loathsome creatures on earth. They already do this with any whites, blacks and hispanics who think the “wrong” way.


9 posted on 02/17/2013 7:35:27 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: Andrei Bulba

Hispanics will start voting R when GOPe fields a charismatic Hispanic candidate.


10 posted on 02/17/2013 7:43:25 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: SMGFan
his nit-picking and his itch to upbraid lawmakers who are vastly senior to him,

One of the main characteristics of politicians winning elections in Texas. Politically speaking the people Of Texas are spilling alot of establishment blood. I would bet money John Cornyn is in the process of reevaluating some of his "bi partisan" views...they hit with a thud when they were unveiled and he hasn't recovered since.

11 posted on 02/17/2013 7:49:01 AM PST by ontap
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To: Mouton

McCarthyite! Wow, makes me think of my very intelligent son (now a brand-new engineer) who graduated high school in 2008. He once brought up the fact that his public high school history teacher spent a full week talking (teaching?) about Joe McCarthy. On his own, my son surmised that it was just an effort to introduce to kids the idea that opposing or exposing communism is ridiculous, and that it’s “not cool.”


12 posted on 02/17/2013 7:49:28 AM PST by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: cripplecreek

Love that photo. It says it all. Schumer looks positively insane and in need of a straight jacket. Stat.


13 posted on 02/17/2013 8:03:33 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: SMGFan

We need ten more in the Senate like Ted Cruz, then we will be getting somewhere. Senate Conservatives Fund has already started to work on this for 2014. They have already identified the states we need to concentrate on that have vulnerable Senate seats coming up.


14 posted on 02/17/2013 8:14:24 AM PST by Reddon
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Hispanics will start voting R when GOPe fields a charismatic Hispanic candidate.

Doubt it.

15 posted on 02/17/2013 8:16:00 AM PST by eekitsagreek
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To: SMGFan

Bump!

The NYT is identifying who they fear.

Cruz is on the right path. We need more like him.


16 posted on 02/17/2013 8:19:00 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SMGFan

As one who signed on during the first primary, my heart beats faster every time I see Cruz on TV...


17 posted on 02/17/2013 8:29:10 AM PST by CenTex (November 6, 2012... A day that will live in infamy!!!)
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To: CenTex

Correction to previous post... I have not seen TV news since early November 7th. I see Ted on youtube or some other internet source... I also view the other Ted the same way...

I can not stand to look at or hear that communist dictator currently occupying the Whitehouse.


18 posted on 02/17/2013 8:35:38 AM PST by CenTex (November 6, 2012... A day that will live in infamy!!!)
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To: SMGFan

They fear him. He is eligible to run for president since his parents were both Americans. He scares them because he is a contender for 2016 and the MSM will have a hard time attacking the GOP as the ‘angry white’ party if we have 2 Hispanics running. They’ll try, but Cruz has bite. With a little coaching, I’m sure he could decimate the media in a way Romney couldn’t. It’s time we smacked these people down.


19 posted on 02/17/2013 8:36:44 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: ontap
I would bet money John Cornyn is in the process of reevaluating some of his "bi partisan" views..

Ted Cruz' gravitational pull is indeed starting to yank Cornyn to the right. John's been doing the McCain/Hatch "I have an election coming" conservative camoflage dance lately.

20 posted on 02/17/2013 9:03:49 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Sarah Palin found out what happens when you speak out the wrong way,I hope MR.Cruz does not suffer the same fate


21 posted on 02/17/2013 9:15:50 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Viennacon
He is eligible to run for president since his parents were both Americans.

I believe only his mother was. Doesn't really matter. He was born a U.S. citizen. He didn't have to naturalize. I'm sure if he wanted to run, the Senate would extend the same courtesy they did to McCain and declare Cruz natural born by resolution. The courts don't seem interested in addressing the issue of eligibility and the Roberts court in particular has already shown itself willing to defer to the voters.

So there you have it.

22 posted on 02/17/2013 9:28:43 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Is this true?

Is Cruz not actually Canadian, but is American?

If so, that would absolutely explain why the NYT is trying to damage him now.

I take back any references to Canada I have posted. Please illuminate us on the Canada vs America issue with Cruz.

Is he American?


23 posted on 02/17/2013 9:31:55 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Mouton
Throughout the 20th century, Communists used ridicule to discredit and destroy their enemies. We know it as a Saul Alinsky rule, but commies used it long before him. It was a brilliant tactic...commies burrowed into our government enlisted fellow-travelers to ridicule the very idea that commie enemies had burrowed into our government. This was why Whittaker Chambers knew he had to publish his book quickly, otherwise he would be thoroughly discredited and Hess vindicated.

"The Venona Secrets" is a long and tedious book, but it sheds a bright light on all the infiltration of our government by commie spies. Indeed, McCarthy was 100% right.

Even in the 20s and 30s, the commies and fellow-travelers had a tight hold on much of the press in the US and worshipful articles about the old Soviet Union were commonplace.

There was an excellent article by Norman Berdichevsky on FR this week (Feb 13) about this very phenomena in the film industry: Hollywood’s Intentional Ignorance of the Crimes of Communist and Muslim Regimes in the New English Review.

24 posted on 02/17/2013 9:32:49 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Is Cruz not actually Canadian, but is American?

Interesting article over here: Could Canadian-Born Ted Cruz Be President?


25 posted on 02/17/2013 9:50:03 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Very interesting article.

Thanks. Cruz 2016 is a possibility. Interesting

High on the list of candidates.

Thanks very much.

(Bookmarked that link.)


26 posted on 02/17/2013 9:58:15 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SMGFan
The sinking ship that is the New York Times, the so-called paper of record

If you ask me, McVeigh parked his Ryder in front of the wrong building.

They have been asking for it since the Civil War, agitated against a peaceful solution after Secession and for conquest of the south, as well as freeing the slaves and then not repatriating them back to where they came from.

In short,responsible for the murder of millions of Americans by the Federal government and by the descendants of freed slaves, and our coming third world status.

A 150 year record of relentless smear attacks and propaganda against real Americans.

27 posted on 02/17/2013 10:02:35 AM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Cruz could just make up a birth certificate that says all the right things and then igonre the critics just like BO does.


28 posted on 02/17/2013 10:06:05 AM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
High on the list of candidates.

There will be people who claim that Cruz (same with Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal and Barack Obama) are ineligible because both parents weren't U.S. citizens when they were born. They'll shout this from the rooftops but their argument hasn't gotten much traction and little support outside of the fringe birther circus.

I predict if Cruz were to run, there might be a few angry birthers stomping their feet but there'd be no legal hurdles in regards to his eligibility that he would challenge.

29 posted on 02/17/2013 10:10:27 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Viennacon; LucyT; Brown Deer; null and void; Drew68; Cringing Negativism Network
They fear him. He is eligible to run for president since his parents were both Americans.

From Drew68's #22: I believe only his mother was. Doesn't really matter. He was born a U.S. citizen. He didn't have to naturalize. I'm sure if he wanted to run, the Senate would extend the same courtesy they did to McCain and declare Cruz natural born by resolution. The courts don't seem interested in addressing the issue of eligibility and the Roberts court in particular has already shown itself willing to defer to the voters.

I am personally strongly pro Cruz--far more effective and more qualified candidate than Rubio. So I view all this commentary as a disaster.

The Natural Born Citizen eligibility question turns solely on the question of whether the individual was born within the geographical limits of the several states--all the rest of this stuff is pure nonsense. That is the substantive Constitutional Law answer.

The stuff about the Robert's Court is applicable to the effort to conceal the place and circumstances of the birth of the current occupant of the White House whose political supporters have obviously developed an effective way to control Roberts. If the Constitutional Law answer were uncertain, which it is not, it is a dreamworld for anyone to believe that a Roberts Court would influence the outcome in our favor.

The Senate action would be as irrelevant as it was in McCain's case--the Senate does not have the Constitutional Power to tell the Supreme Court how to decide questions of Constitutional Law; the Court has historically demonstrated an offensive reaction to this kind of Legislation. McCain was not eligible no matter who was on the Court--he was born in Panama.

Further, the citizenship answer itself is a little more complex--I have not studied Cruz's facts. But if his mother alone was a US Citizen, his citizenship at birth is not a clear answer either--depending on when he was born, citizenship from a US mother citizen requires compliance with several specific conditions.

Even worse, most Constitutional Law authorities (see the article in the Cornell Law Review) view the mother citizenship statute as unconstitutional because it does not provide for equal citizenship access to a person whose father was a US Citizen and the person's mother was not.

Surprising if true that this issue has not come up earlier--because citizenship is required (Article I, Section 3) to serve in the Senate: "No person shall be a Senator who shall not have . . . been nine Years a Citizen of the United States . . . . "

If only his mother was a US Citizen and she does not pass citizenship to Cruz, how does he get to be a Citizen at all absent a nationalization proceeding?

30 posted on 02/17/2013 10:33:03 AM PST by David
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To: cripplecreek

Was looking for that photo. Thanks for posting.


31 posted on 02/17/2013 10:45:45 AM PST by stanne
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To: Drew68

His father left Cuba when Casto came in so I don’t believe he would have still been considered a Cuban citizen and probably couldn’t pass Cuban citizenship to Ted.


32 posted on 02/17/2013 10:46:07 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It’s not about racism so much as it’s about stuff. The lib voters vote for stuff, not hteir country, which they should, as voting is something that’s done for the good of the country.

They will turn on their own race as certainly as they turn on their own country.


33 posted on 02/17/2013 10:49:35 AM PST by stanne
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To: cripplecreek

What is that from? The SOTU?


34 posted on 02/17/2013 10:52:37 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Viennacon
With a little coaching, I’m sure he could decimate the media in a way Romney couldn’t. It’s time we smacked these people down.

He won't get the air time. We'll have to get the word out by ourselves. It won't be easy.

35 posted on 02/17/2013 10:55:24 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: SMGFan
MSM & Liberals tell us who they fear , just like Rubio. Credit Rush.

......and the rest of the "ruling class". Graham and others are apopleptic that Cruz would speak his mind and ask pertinent questions during Senate hearings. Did you know these nomination hearings were all for show? The precident in the Senate is to give the president who/whatever he nominates. Cruz must not have received that memo, so they (dems AND repuub) are busy telling him where his place is.
36 posted on 02/17/2013 10:59:39 AM PST by Girlene
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If only his mother was a US Citizen and she does not pass citizenship to Cruz, how does he get to be a Citizen at all absent a nationalization proceeding?

Apparently she did, per U.S. code. If this weren't the case, Cruz would be an illegal immigrant as he never naturalized --a detail I'm sure his political opponents would have seized upon by now.

Is he a natural born citizen? I don't know. This would be for the courts to answer (or they can continue to evade the issue). I do believe that if Ted Cruz decided to run for President, he'd face no serious legal challenge in regards to his eligibility.

37 posted on 02/17/2013 11:00:32 AM PST by Drew68
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

McCarthy WAS right. The Communists were all through out FDR’s cabinet. They knew every time FDR took a leak. The problem was that the press never told the American people so they think it is just a wackos that believe that stuff.

Fast forward to today, we have the same thing happening with Islamists. They are controlling the way we fight the war on terror and if anyone tries to out them they are labeled nut jobs and fired.

Evil is all around us and we had better wake the hell up.


38 posted on 02/17/2013 11:00:42 AM PST by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Hispanics will start voting R when GOPe fields a charismatic Hispanic candidate they can rely on getting more perks and goodies from the GOPe than the democrats.
39 posted on 02/17/2013 11:03:26 AM PST by Waryone
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To: cripplecreek

Love that photo! You can certainly tell who the Patriot is in that pic...


40 posted on 02/17/2013 11:06:44 AM PST by nutmeg (Who and WHERE are the Benghazi survivors??)
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To: ballplayer

He will suffer the same treatment from the MSM. It is not about what he says; it is about what he believes. As long as he continues to believe in conservative principles, they will go after him.


41 posted on 02/17/2013 11:07:30 AM PST by Waryone
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To: Lets Roll NOW

Not only were they throughout FDR’s cabinet and many cabinet offices below the Secretaries, but many of them were actively passing information to Soviet spies. Eleanor was a fellow-traveller.

Read “The Venona Secrets” for the full story. It is indeed frightening.


42 posted on 02/17/2013 11:09:52 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Drew68; Viennacon
He was born a U.S. citizen.

So the bottom line is that Ted Cruz *is* a U.S. citizen, and therefore eligible to run for President?

Not nit-picking here, I'm just trying to get it straight...

43 posted on 02/17/2013 11:10:51 AM PST by nutmeg (Who and WHERE are the Benghazi survivors??)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“Hispanics will start voting R when GOPe fields a charismatic Hispanic candidate.”

Nonsesnse. For one thing, hispanics of Mexican descent do not identify with hispanics of Cuban descent, so the race card would give Cruz and Rubio a slight edge in south Florida and that’s about it.


44 posted on 02/17/2013 11:11:28 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: SMGFan

Yup. they sure do.


45 posted on 02/17/2013 11:12:38 AM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: Viennacon

bump!


46 posted on 02/17/2013 11:14:57 AM PST by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“For one thing, hispanics of Mexican descent do not identify with hispanics of Cuban descent, so the race card would give Cruz and Rubio a slight edge in south Florida and that’s about it.”

ssshh! You’re not supposed to tell all the secrets!


47 posted on 02/17/2013 11:18:28 AM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio. for Amnesty, Spanish, and Karl Rove.)
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To: SMGFan

Godwin’s Law: as an argument grows longer and more heated, it becomes increasingly likely that somebody will bring up Adolf Hitler or the Nazis. When such an event occurs, the person guilty of invoking Godwin’s Law has effectively forfeited the argument. Violated most often by modern national socialists.

Godwin’s Law II (`Iron law’): under similar heated circumstances, again when the malfeasor arguendo has not a leg to stand upon, he/she/it will accuse the opponent a `McCarthyism’. Always broken by Democrats, liberals, newspapers, magazines, Leon Pitts, and other like-minded hysterical moonbats.


48 posted on 02/17/2013 11:48:29 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Drew68; LucyT; null and void; Brown Deer
Apparently she did, per U.S. code. If this weren't the case, Cruz would be an illegal immigrant as he never naturalized --a detail I'm sure his political opponents would have seized upon by now.

Is he a natural born citizen? I don't know. This would be for the courts to answer (or they can continue to evade the issue). I do believe that if Ted Cruz decided to run for President, he'd face no serious legal challenge in regards to his eligibility.

You are welcome to believe whatever you like. #30 is a fair summary of the existing state of the law. You can bet that if Cruz becomes a candidate, a much more effective attack will be made on his credentials than we have seen in connection with the current occupant of the White House.

Although I agree, it would be really surprising if the citizen issue had not been addressed by his political opponents because he has a fair number of them.

I like Cruz better than any of the alternatives and if this entire story is true, I view it as a disaster.

Cruz is a competent successful person who has a long established record of performance and production at whatever he has undertaken. He is the epitome of the kind of Conservative candidate who would get widespread support.

In order to resolve the citizen at birth question, you need to know the birth date; place and circumstances of birth; mother's age at the date of birth; mother's period of residence in the US; date the mother first became a resident of the US; father's citizenship.

49 posted on 02/17/2013 11:49:57 AM PST by David
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To: nutmeg
He was born a U.S. citizen.

So the bottom line is that Ted Cruz *is* a U.S. citizen, and therefore eligible to run for President?

Not nit-picking here, I'm just trying to get it straight...

Be good if he was--get someone to tell us how he complied with which citizenship at birth statute.

50 posted on 02/17/2013 11:53:44 AM PST by David
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