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A disappointing POV by the son of the great Ronaldus Maximus. I did not know he had been molested as a kid. Can't really argue against his calling a spade a spade with respect to the BSA, RCC, and PSU. Sadly, they all are long timeline cases of leadership failure when it comes to dealing effectively with pedophiles.

The info I have been reading all agree that homosexuals (<3% of the total population) commit 20-33% of the child molestations. I have to disagree with Michael Reagan when he declares that homosexuality and pedophilia do not intersect.

Two key points have leaked out regarding the BSA National Executive Board's cluster-flop performance regarding adopting the "local option."

1. Constitutional lawyers informed BSA national that they would probably not win the next SCOTUS case on this issue and that the last case (Dale vs. BSA, 2000) was a 5 to 4 decision, which could have gone the other way.

2. BSA has usurped for many years the Chartered Organization's ability to select and approve their own leadership as they see fit and not as the BSA sees fit. (Violation of BSA's "Declaration of Religious Principles")

There is a lot of talk going on among veteran volunteer scouters in blue states who advocate that BSA should be restructered, i.e., keep BSA national but provide seperate scouting programs for e.g., BSA-orthdox, BSA-diversity, and Exploring. Afterall, Mormon troops have been reserving a designated Mormon week at council summer camps for at least 10 years. Plus, a commonly cited example is Germany where there are currently ~150 different scouting associations. The BSA-diversity charter institutions, primarily churches would include ...

Reform Judaism
Conservative Judaism
Universalist/ Unitarian
United Church of Christ
Disciples of Christ - The Christian Church
Episcopal
Evangelical Lutheran Church of America
Presbyterian Church in the USA
Moravian
Cooperative Baptist Fellowship
Alliance of Baptists
American Baptist Church
Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists

About 69% of all unit charters are held by religious denominations. The BSA-diversity churches listed above, with the exceptions of the ELCA and PCUSA, make up a minority of the chartered units.

The bigger problems come with the UMC (Methodist) and LDS (Mormon) churches. It is hard to read where the UMC will come down on this. They are holding their cards close to their chest regarding the "local option". In DEC 2012, the LDS church showed signs on their web-site that their resolve against homosexuals in their scouting units may be wavering. The current BSA (volunteer) president, Wayne Perry, is a life-long Mormon. The LDS church leads all denominations in the numbmer of units chartered and scouts registered. The UMC is 2nd and the RCC is 3rd.

1 posted on 02/11/2013 12:44:51 PM PST by MacNaughton
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The BSA have handled this issue HORRIBLY over the past few weeks. They has just completed a two-year review, and reaffirmed their position re: homosexuality last July. That should have been end of story. Why they chose to re-open the question 6 months later is anyone’s guess....


38 posted on 02/11/2013 3:42:25 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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This wrong notion just serves to balkanize the country.

The Boy Scouts must KEEP the protection from homosexuals. PERIOD.

Homosexuals have no place around children.


40 posted on 02/11/2013 3:54:40 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

The Boy Scouts aren't the real target. . it's the people of faith and their clergy. . ultimately its the bible. . .it must all be changed in order to legitimize the act of homosexuality.

NEXT: Stop preaching against homosexuality or face lawsuits and finally arrest

42 posted on 02/11/2013 5:22:18 PM PST by McBuff
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“If the BSA’s long-standing ban on gays is lifted by national officials in May, the choice to admit gays may be left to local Boy Scout chapters — as it should be.”

No, it definitely should NOT be left to local chapters.

The BSA is one of the few organizations left in the entire United States which still adhere’s to traditional standards of mental and physical health - and THAT’S as it should be.


43 posted on 02/11/2013 6:33:49 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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Sodomites and their willing accomplices are reprobates, rejected by God (see Romans 1). All these so called Christians and Christian organizations have rejected God’s word, his uncompromising counsel on this evil.


44 posted on 02/11/2013 7:02:32 PM PST by nonsporting
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