The info I have been reading all agree that homosexuals (<3% of the total population) commit 20-33% of the child molestations. I have to disagree with Michael Reagan when he declares that homosexuality and pedophilia do not intersect.
Two key points have leaked out regarding the BSA National Executive Board's cluster-flop performance regarding adopting the "local option."
1. Constitutional lawyers informed BSA national that they would probably not win the next SCOTUS case on this issue and that the last case (Dale vs. BSA, 2000) was a 5 to 4 decision, which could have gone the other way.
2. BSA has usurped for many years the Chartered Organization's ability to select and approve their own leadership as they see fit and not as the BSA sees fit. (Violation of BSA's "Declaration of Religious Principles")
There is a lot of talk going on among veteran volunteer scouters in blue states who advocate that BSA should be restructered, i.e., keep BSA national but provide seperate scouting programs for e.g., BSA-orthdox, BSA-diversity, and Exploring. Afterall, Mormon troops have been reserving a designated Mormon week at council summer camps for at least 10 years. Plus, a commonly cited example is Germany where there are currently ~150 different scouting associations. The BSA-diversity charter institutions, primarily churches would include ...
Reform Judaism
Conservative Judaism
Universalist/ Unitarian
United Church of Christ
Disciples of Christ - The Christian Church
Episcopal
Evangelical Lutheran Church of America
Presbyterian Church in the USA
Moravian
Cooperative Baptist Fellowship
Alliance of Baptists
American Baptist Church
Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists
About 69% of all unit charters are held by religious denominations. The BSA-diversity churches listed above, with the exceptions of the ELCA and PCUSA, make up a minority of the chartered units.
The bigger problems come with the UMC (Methodist) and LDS (Mormon) churches. It is hard to read where the UMC will come down on this. They are holding their cards close to their chest regarding the "local option". In DEC 2012, the LDS church showed signs on their web-site that their resolve against homosexuals in their scouting units may be wavering. The current BSA (volunteer) president, Wayne Perry, is a life-long Mormon. The LDS church leads all denominations in the numbmer of units chartered and scouts registered. The UMC is 2nd and the RCC is 3rd.
I really hope they don’t cave. If ever this country needs strong moral guidance for our boys and girls it’s now.
“as it should be”
Reagan is an idiot.
Just say no.....I wouldn’t want one camping with my sons. They’re ALL predators. How do you think they uphold their population??
1. They had problems with the disease-ridden boy-rapers in the past.
2. They don't want problems with disease-ridden boy-rapers now.
Where's the issue?
If the BSA does not stand up for their own principals then why should the rest of us support them? What would they be? Just another tool for the sodomites to gain early access to young boys?
This should be a line in the sand for the BSA but I have a gut feeling they will, like all too many others, cave under the sodomites pressure exerted by their propaganda arm in the MSM.
So from this we can tell that in cases where the pervert could harm children, the BSA got rid of him
When it comes to dealing with the sexual abuse of children, they've always chosen to protect their own institutions instead of protecting children.
This assertion is proven incorrect by the previous paragraph. Reagan should read his own text; he'd figure out that he is flat wrong on this issue.
“Boy Scouts Must Reconcile Gay Issue “
They did. It is a lifestyle that doesn’t fit with the charter and oath.
Done and done
“...and the free exercise thereof,...”
Might as well say that we must reconcile with the burglar who wishes to invade our home.
For a minute I thought maybe it was Ron Reagan, Michael’s brother, who said this.
No, Michael, absolutely not. That is just WRONG. If you don’t like it, just don’t join the Scouts.
Maybe Michael doesn’t want to hurt Ron’s feelings. Well, that doesn’t justify saying anything like this.
“a child is no more at risk of being molested by a gay or bisexual man than a heterosexual one.”
But we are not talking about a “child” we are talking about “boy” scouts.
If 1000 homosexual men are in the woods overnight with little boys vs 1000 heterosexual men in the woods overnight with little boys.....to say there is no difference in the chance of a boy getting molested is asinine and defies all common sense.
“a child is no more at risk of being molested by a gay or bisexual man than a heterosexual one.”
But we are not talking about a “child” we are talking about “boy” scouts.
If 1000 homosexual men are in the woods overnight with little boys vs 1000 heterosexual men in the woods overnight with little boys.....to say there is no difference in the chance of a boy getting molested is asinine and defies all common sense.
Maybe the BSA can introduce a Fudge-packing Merit Badge.
If the BSA’s long-standing ban on gays is lifted by national officials in May, the choice to admit gays may be left to local Boy Scout chapters — as it should be.
WRONG.
Homosexuality is evil and has been condemned by most civilized societies for the perverted abberration it is. Further, Judaeo-Christian morality which helped create this country, clearly rejects it.
Excellent post to provide more info as regards how this breaks out should a schism occur. I agree that M.Reagan has gone astray on this and your response to his assertion of non-intersection of the homosexual and pedophile groups.
The local option schism just opens too many liabilities for chartering organizations, IMO. They will choose to return their charters and units will fold. This will collapse membership numbers and Scouting in general will become only a fond memory for those who enjoyed it before others, who think the world revolves around how and with whom they use their genitalia, demanded their “rights.”
I’m OK in principle with that sort of split, but it leaves open the question of who controls the local council, properties, and council wide activities like summer and winter camps.
“reconcile”: Liberal code word for ‘accept’.
Why are the faggots pedophiles so interested in demanding access to the Boy Scouts?
If the BSA’s long-standing ban on gays is lifted by national officials in May, total Scout ranks and assets/camos will shrink by 50% or more.
If the BSA’s long-standing ban on gays is lifted by national officials in May, total Scout ranks and assets/camps will shrink by 50% or more.
“As it should be”....?!?
Bullcrap. You can’t have “morally straight” mean opposite things just because you change where you live. It’s a national organization and if there’s ambiguity about a moral issue it must be addressed at the highest scope of the organization so that EVERYONE is clear about what things are acceptable and what are not, within and across the entire organization.