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Obama's Immigration Plan: Expedite 11 Million Illegal Immigrants to Citizenship
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| January 29, 2013
| Katie Pavlich
Posted on 01/29/2013 9:26:33 PM PST by Kaslin
President Obama has wrapped up his $1.6 million campaign event immigration reform speech in Las Vegas, Nevada.
"Now is the time for common sense, comprehensive immigration reform," Obama said.
Piggybacking off of a bipartisan immigration reform plan presented by eight Senators yesterday, Obama called on Congress to quickly come up with legislation.
"We can't allow immigration reform to get bogged down in endless debate," Obama said. "For the first time in years, Republicans and Democrats seem ready to attack this problem together."
Although Obama focused on further enforcement as a top priority for reform, he stressed the need to expedite 11 million illegal immigrants away from the shadows and into American society as citizens, a position bound to put the country into another post-1986 amnesty situation.
Obama wants to study the fine print of legislation once it is written, but administration officials were quick to say the president objects to linking an earned pathway to citizenship to enforcement or border security triggers, a contingency concept included in the bipartisan “principles” outlined Monday by pro-reform senators who have been dubbed the “immigration eight.” Immigration enforcement goals have already been met by the administration, the officials said, and any new triggers or thresholds set by law would create unnecessary obstacles to those seeking legal status.
Obama warned if Congress fails to enact its own immigration reform, he'll send up his own bill "and insist they vote on it right away," while cautioning against the emotion of ongoing debate and an "us vs. them" mentality.
"The closer we get, the more emotional this debate is going to become," Obama said. "Immigration has always been an issue that inflames passions."
Republican Senator Marco Rubio has said he will oppose legislation that puts the Green Card process before border enforcement and security.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: barackobama; illegalimmigration; lasvegas; marcorubio
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To: Kaslin
Reach out to those new citizens *immedately* and inform them of their rights and privileges, including the Second Amendment, and all that pertains to smaller government coupled with personal responsibility. Make them OURS. If we believe man truly yearns to be free, then act like it, preach it, teach it. They come in. They pay taxes. Turn this around, folks. Do not assume millions of people show up here solely for the purpose of being illegal and uncivil. The ones who do? BAMMM!
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posted on
01/29/2013 11:10:44 PM PST
by
Fester Chugabrew
(double trouble, here we come)
To: Fester Chugabrew
I believe as you point out that there is needed an effort to bring understanding to many immigrants, legal and illegal, that this Nation has It’s own history of being exceptional. However. I also believe that that there are many of these persons who came here by hook or crook to just feed off the labor and sweat of others. Of course this attitude is prevalent among many persons today who are not immigrants.
To: Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; ...
Obama’s plan ??
Rubio’s, McCain and Bohner’s too.
Don’t be fooled by the GOPs ‘enforce the borders first’ Kabuki dance.
Illegals will NOT vote for tax cuts over welfare, Rubio and McCain are lying about this.
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posted on
01/29/2013 11:48:10 PM PST
by
sickoflibs
(Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
To: funfan
I just want to be left alone I do not wish to ruled by him or any of the other fools at the helm. The mentality of the wicked is such that they will not leave others alone. Darkness is wiped out merely by the existence of light. The dark side understands that it can only exist in the absence of light, thus it continually wages war against fundamental principles of reality (truth i.e. light).
They are by nature an insecure lot. It's not the competent boss or coworker who angles for promotion by trying to get someone fired. It's not the good neighbor or associate who pits people against each other. It's not the true leader who rules by wielding power and whipping up fear, etc.
Now we have a couple of generations of people who feel perfectly entitled to make demands upon others, adults who appear never to have been told "No" and presume others will do (and think) as they command. Obama is their mirr0r image.
Or more like a screen capture... like a window screen with flies.
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posted on
01/29/2013 11:53:50 PM PST
by
Ezekiel
(The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
To: Kaslin
The ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF is still trying to get his U.S. Citizenship.
This disgusting
Curse on our Nation named Barack Hussein Obama II,
aka Barry Soetoro, has
a real birth certificate, with his right footprint on it.
All you have to do is
look for it.
Here's some critical sources and FACTS.
People can go to www.scribd.com and read their pages 20 thru 32 ,
For those of you who don't know, remember this:
The Democrats knew about this BEFORE Obama was elected in 2008!
8 Congressional attempts from June 2004 to February 2008 to alter Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution, proves to me
that the DNC knew that Obama was born in Kenya.
Read it for yourself.
Then look at these links.
1. June 11, 2003, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) 108th congress, H.J.Res. 59
2. Sep 3, 2003, Rep. Conyers, John Jr., (D) H.J.Res. 67
3. Feb 25, 2005, Sen. Nickles, Don (R-OK) Senate Bill 2128, counter the democrats Natural Born Citizen Act - but Defines it wrong
4. Sep 15, 2004, Rep Dana Rohrabacher (D)(R-CA46) H.J.Res 104
5. Jan 4, 2005, Rep Conyers, John Jr., H.J.Res. 2 109th Congress
6. Feb 1, 2005, Rep Rohrabacher, Dana (D) (CA-46) H.J.Res.15
7. April 14, 2005, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) (AR-2) H.J.Res. 42
8. Feb 28, 2008, Senator McCaskill, Claire (D) Attachment to a military bill Senate Bill 2678 Titled Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act.
DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama were cosponsors of this bill.
9. April 10, 2008, Sen McCaskill, Claire (D) (MO) Senate Res.511 passed declaring Senator John McCain a Natural Born Citizen.
But it was never in question. It was cosponsored by DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.
Just before the 2008 election
Barack Obama's election team spent $1.4 million blocking access to all of Obama's records.
Barack Hussein Obama II is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED.
There were
8 attempts by Democrats to try to "Change the Qualification Rules" BEFORE Obama was elected.
They KNOW Obama's ILLEGAL ... AND .... UNQUALIFIED!
Obama's record is hard to find.
Check this link out
Sunday, June 27, 2004 Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.
This document
from the British National Archives Show Son Born To Obama Sr. in 1961 In Kenya
shows
a birth date of Aug 4, 1961, the
exact date of genuine birth certificate with Obama's right foot print on it.
This IS
the very document that links the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF to his birth certificate.
Let me say again: Think about
this.
"On August 4, 1961 Obama's mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa , Kenya .
Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy.
It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obamas went to the beach to cool off.
While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA!).
Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth."
Here's
something to ponder.
I think it more likely that the trip from Kenya actually occurred in August 1961, shortly after BHO-II's birth at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa.
Ann and her newborn son flew from Nairobi to London, via BOAC Flight BA162 and then took the non-stop BOAC flight from London to Vancouver, Canada.
She then traveled the 110 miles or so, across the border, to Seattle in time to start Fall Semester, night-school extension classes at the University of Washington.
The trip would be challenging for a new mother, but she was young, healthy, intelligent, and capable.
BOAC was very accomodating to mothers with young children back in the 1960s. No real problem!
From the Airline Timetable Images - List of Complete Timetables, the cost of BOAC from April 24,1960 until October 1, 1962 was: From Vancouver to Nairobi cost in Canadian Dollars: Single Return
DL 1115.00 2026.80
F 1055.50 1918.80
T 764.00 1396.00
Y 701.00 1282.60
Passanger Fares could be "FLY NOW AND PAY LATER".
Arrangements could be made whereby residents of certain areas may, on payment of a 10% deposit, travel immediately and pay the balance of fare in monthly instalments.
If you're wondering about where the money came from, think about this.
Look at all the financial supporters Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. had."In 1959, Obama Sr. received a scholarship in economics through a program organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya.
The program offered Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students.[22][23][24]
Initial financial supporters of the program included Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Jackie Robinson, and Elizabeth Mooney Kirk,
a literacy advocate who provided most of the financial support for Obama Sr.'s early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University.
Funds provided the following year by John F. Kennedy's family paid off old debts of the project and subsidized student stipends,
thereby indirectly benefiting Obama Sr. and other members of the 1959 group of scholarship holders.
Yes, it's quite clear that money wasn't a problem for the Marxists Revolutionaries.
Passanger Information for that time frame can be found here.
Connections from Nairobi - Lusaka - Salisbury can be found here.
The BOAC World Routes Map is found here.
Departure arrival times from Britian to Nairobi are found here.
Departure arrival times for London and Vancouver are found here.
Now think about those facts,and statements.
The forgeries I'm aware of, are the three Birth Cretificate Barack Hussein Obama II has forged.
I don't trust evidence put forth by Obama supporters.
The disappearance of too much evidence on Obama is strong enough for me to know that he was born in Kenya.
Read
INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961! The documents provided in that article are very damaging to Obama, and well worth your time.
Most of these early "supporters" of the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF were party to the Communists "spooks".
There's a great volume of history you have to go through to understand this, and it goes back to about 1850.
Read these three articles on one of my earlier post:
Now go back and read
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals.
Are you getting the depth of this
Fabian Society takeover?
You wouldn't believe the
information here
It's deep, it's ugly, and most people WILL NOT ... CAN NOT ... accept the truth.
Anybody recall a press release telling the masses about federal intelligence notes sent warning police about this cabal?
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posted on
01/30/2013 12:23:07 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Kaslin
Obama wants to study the fine print of legislation once it is written, but administration officials were quick to say the president objects to linking an earned pathway to citizenship to enforcement or border security triggersObama makes speeches saying he wants to finally solve the problem with "comprehensive" immigration reform ... except that "comprehensive" in Obamaspeak means ONLY immediate legalization, and border control is not part of it.
And the MSM plays along. The media is a bigger problem than the democrats.
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posted on
01/30/2013 3:26:25 AM PST
by
sphinx
To: funfan
Don’t you get it? He is opening the way for his lovely wife to be able to replace him and then on to his daughters. They will remove all European influence in 50 years or less. n/s
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posted on
01/30/2013 3:56:01 AM PST
by
cameraeye
(A happy kuffir!)
To: Kaslin
What are we doing? We're forcing American citizenship on these people. Where's the evidence these people want to become Americans? I remember the Rose Bowl filled with illegals screaming at the "home" American soccer team and supporting the Mexican team.
There's no evidence that the illegals want to assimilate.
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posted on
01/30/2013 4:24:49 AM PST
by
Jabba the Nutt
(.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
To: lentulusgracchus
Only it isn't 11,000,000, Katie dear. Think more like 30,000,000. Okay?You are correct beyond your imagination.
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posted on
01/30/2013 4:31:15 AM PST
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
To: Kaslin
This is all Kabuki theater—the Rubio/McCain/Gang of Eight plan would do absolutely nothing to keep Obama from similarly expediting citizenship for the tens of millions that their plan would legalize.
Their plan may make reference to a commission that has the opportunity to offer a recommendation on when the border is “secure” (sure), but the president would be empowered to grant the citizenship without such a recommendation at all.
To: 9YearLurker
Republican Senator Marco Rubio has said he will oppose legislation that puts the Green Card process before border enforcement and security.Well what are we waiting for, Marco? Zippidty doo daa Obama's Customs & Border Enforcement says the border is damn near secure right now.
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posted on
01/30/2013 6:02:37 AM PST
by
skeeter
To: skeeter
That’s Rubio’s deceit—he knows fully well that the legislation he’s proposing has no actual, enforceable limit on border security before citizenship.
But he goes out and lies and lies and lies about it.
To: noinfringers2
I also believe that that there are many of these persons who came here by hook or crook to just feed off the labor and sweat of others. Of course this attitude is prevalent among many persons today who are not immigrants.Absolutely. The parasite community needs to be publicly exposed and shamed at the same time; only take care not to shame people who really do need help.
To: Kaslin
Add one provision to the background check, pay taxes and penalty, get in line behing legal applicants etc.; each one (individual or intact family) must have a non-employer sponsor who is a U.S. citizen. I know some folks who I suspect are not here legally who are worth keeping (church going, workers, family oriented with kids as American as my own); I’d sponsor them if need be.
But none of it will be of any use without a WALL on the border.
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posted on
01/30/2013 9:08:08 AM PST
by
JimRed
(Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin He has indeed been weighed and found wanting.
But not in his own eyes, or those of his orcs.
To: doc1019
Declare himself as president for life ... been done in other countries. Yes, he would do that, but he has to wait until he's got rid of the "Old America" armed forces -- the patriots and warfighters who wouldn't accept illegal orders from this down-low rent-boy, but would instead stuff them down his throat. (He might like that, come to think of it -- who knows what he "likes"?)
No, he needs his Red Army in place before he can bust that move. It's a chicken-and-egg problem. He needs an army before he can break the 22nd Amendment and proclaim himself Autocrator/Dictator/Big Brother. But it will take longer than four years to de-Americanize the U.S. Armed Forces.
To: HMS Surprise
Mandatory E-verify will force millions to return home, and it costs NOTHING.”’’
The Social Security Administration wants a fee of $5000 NON REFUNDABLE to the business owner—to determine if a prospective hire is legal to hire or not.
After the $5000 non-refundable fee, the cost is 56 cents per request.
See Spring 2010 “The Reporter” which comes with the quarterly 941 form-—when was about the last time period that they were printed and SENT to the business owner.
Now, we have to ‘download them’ on our own & don’t get the nuggets of new information we used to get mailed to us.
Make me a list here of small businesses which have $5000 laying around unused to send to the Soc Sec Admin on a non-refundable basis!!!!
To: skeeter
Tell that to the ranchers who live down there.
Especially Robert Kraft’s family.
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