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Panetta: ´Everyone Entitled to a Chance´ to be Combat Soldier in ´Gender Neutral´ Military
Cybercast News Service ^ | 1/24/13 | Matt Cover

Posted on 01/24/2013 6:34:43 PM PST by Nachum

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Thursday that whether they are male or female "everyone is entitled to a chance" to become a combat soldier in a military that will now adopt "gender netural" standards. “If members of our military can meet the qualifications for a job--and let me be clear, we’re not talking about reducing the qualifications for a job--if they can meet the qualifications for the job then they should have the right to serve,” Panetta said at a Pentagon press conference. The Defense Department announced today that it would rescind its 1994 policy restricting women

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1 posted on 01/24/2013 6:34:52 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
This will allow women to collect "combat pay", but you can be sure they'll not be in the front of the pack, facing Muslim Terrorists who will look for them for "fun" and "use"....

This is, as always, allowing women to be included in jobs they don't belong in.....

2 posted on 01/24/2013 6:38:30 PM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Nachum

Chance? I’d hate to be shoulder-to-shoulder with a female soldier who took a ‘chance’..


3 posted on 01/24/2013 6:39:49 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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4 posted on 01/24/2013 6:40:56 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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5 posted on 01/24/2013 6:41:50 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Saying “It is a good idea to let faggots and women in the military, especially in combat roles” would have got you thrown in the luny bin 40 years ago.....


6 posted on 01/24/2013 6:43:16 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Nachum
No, Mr. Panetta: Soldiers are only entitled to do what they are ordered to do. If they are the most capable for an assignment, they should be ordered to it or allowed to volunteer. Otherwise, they support the mission in the background.

By this flawed assumption, everyone who wants to play NFL football is "entitled" to O-offal's famous ubiquitous "fair shot".

These people are SOOoooo living in an alternate universe. I'm reading "Caliphate" right now, and this admin along with the media makes it very believable.

vaudine

7 posted on 01/24/2013 6:43:30 PM PST by vaudine
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To: Nachum

And when it proves to be a disaster, “misogynist conservative” males will get the blame one way or the other.


8 posted on 01/24/2013 6:43:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Nachum

If some women can actually perform as men without the standards being lowered, and it did not involve a draft of...shall I say, women who understand they are women, I have no problem with this.

If feminists and lesbians can really DO the job of men, go for it. But leave the real women out of it. Lowered standards does not a soldier make.

As for me, this is a deflection story.


9 posted on 01/24/2013 6:44:17 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Nachum

I’m assuming every 18-26 year old female will now be required to register for the draft...


10 posted on 01/24/2013 6:44:51 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: Nachum

He’ll someday rot in hell....along with his puppet master.


11 posted on 01/24/2013 6:45:33 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Red State Secession Is The Only Answer)
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To: Nachum

Give them all draft numbers,


12 posted on 01/24/2013 6:45:33 PM PST by Taxbilly
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To: Nachum

I agree to some extent ... as long as the women that will be sent into combat can meet ALL the standards, both physical and psychological that are required by the men.

And they should understand that if captured by the enemy they will most probably be raped and subjected to the vilest handling imaginable. Not my perverse thoughts, just the way Allah’s best treat women, especially women that defy them.


13 posted on 01/24/2013 6:47:03 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Nachum

Needless to say this bizarre policy is so flawed that even if it is partially implemented grave harm will be done. However what is instructive is that the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who ostensibly advised Panetta to implement this nonsense, have devolved into politically correct careerists rather than the council of supreme warriors who’s sacred duty is to protect the country. Very bad tidings for our country.


14 posted on 01/24/2013 6:47:49 PM PST by allendale
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To: Nachum

***—and let me be clear, we’re not talking about reducing the qualifications for a job—***

Sure you’re not.


15 posted on 01/24/2013 6:47:49 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (A return to Jesus and prayer in the schools is the only way.)
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To: cripplecreek

How can it possibly fail? St. Obama the Fly Whisperer blessed it, so it has to be good.


16 posted on 01/24/2013 6:48:38 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Nachum

Wondering where he gained his vast combat experience, I checked his bio:

He (Panetta) served as an Army intelligence officer from 1964 to 1966 and received the Army Commendation Medal.

Secretary Panetta holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in political science and a law degree, both from Santa Clara University.

Also, he served many years in government and in public policy (communist) non-profits as a poverty pimp.

http://www.defense.gov/bios/biographydetail.aspx?biographyid=310


17 posted on 01/24/2013 6:48:55 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Nachum

What about pregnancy, menstration? Will women soldiers be put on the pill? Get pregnancy testing prior t being sent into combat?


18 posted on 01/24/2013 6:49:09 PM PST by RginTN
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To: doc1019

Doesn’t sound like a “woman” that can carry a 80 pound pack for days on end is going to be a rape victim .....


19 posted on 01/24/2013 6:49:09 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: KittenClaws

Too many “ifs”.

I am opposed to this, wholesale, but they need to carry the concept to it’s linear conclusion.

Should we combat train enlisted/commissioned women? Yes.

Should you teach your daughters to fight and shoot? Yes.

Should we entertain women and children and old men as frontline troops? No. Last Resort Only.


20 posted on 01/24/2013 6:50:40 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: Nachum

Since one of the qualifications was “male”, and now it will not be “male”, it is clear that they ARE talking about reducing the qualifications.


21 posted on 01/24/2013 6:51:08 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: KittenClaws
women are women for a reason, and men are men for a reason...a men could no more out do a women in her role anymore than a woman could out do a man...GENERALLY speaking...of course, there are always a few exceptions, but very very few....

this is going to get ugly when they try to draft women in the same numbers as men, and believe me, we will have a draft....

and sending young women into combat battle and having them killed in massive numbers will surely be the final death of our culture...

not to say that killing of young men is great, but is somewhat expected for the men to be the warriors...its not expected of young women...

my prediction is that we will have a draft because we're going to have war...

22 posted on 01/24/2013 6:53:00 PM PST by cherry
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To: central_va

Good point, if she can carry a 80 pound pack for days on end, she will not give up easily ... however, if she is captured a beating will be the least of her worries.


23 posted on 01/24/2013 6:53:22 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Nachum

Look, the Jessica Lynch thing failed because even though they tried to hold her up as a hero(heroine), they had to drop her like a hot potato when she testified that she had been raped multiple times by the religion of peace soldiers. They knew that that wouldn’t fly.

So, they need some horribly, critically wounded (better yet . . . killed) female, preferably a he/she that they can build a legend around.


24 posted on 01/24/2013 6:53:37 PM PST by laweeks
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To: RginTN

Forget preggers and periods...how will they *go* in a bottle, while stuffed into a van, en route to the combat zone? This could get interesting fast.


25 posted on 01/24/2013 6:54:03 PM PST by Jane Long
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To: cripplecreek

Nope. Because once it proves to be a disaster, we’ll all be dead...as our military will have proved incapable of defending us. And it WILL be a disaster.

Funny how many of the women in the military seem to think it’s a stupid idea. That bit of news and info ended up in the same place as widespread oppo to gays though so few will ever know.


26 posted on 01/24/2013 6:54:51 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: central_va

Today we’re living in the luny bin and it’s OK.

So glad my CIC was a real American called Ike.


27 posted on 01/24/2013 6:55:11 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: laweeks

I like Rush Limbaugh’s idea

The All-American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion- have the certain kinds of women be housed at the same place, the same time over a period of time and therefore we would have a combat-ready group of women on PMS whenever we needed ‘em.


28 posted on 01/24/2013 6:56:29 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Jane Long

I predict this will end with diaster.


29 posted on 01/24/2013 6:57:57 PM PST by RginTN
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To: doc1019

You completely missed my point.


30 posted on 01/24/2013 6:59:53 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cherry
Ballroom Blitz
31 posted on 01/24/2013 7:01:01 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Nachum
and let me be clear, we’re not talking about reducing the qualifications for a job-

Riiiiiiight.

32 posted on 01/24/2013 7:01:40 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: Nachum
I wonder when the trans-sexuals, or trans-genders, or whatever the freaks are called be inducted.

5.56mm

33 posted on 01/24/2013 7:02:49 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Jim Robinson

“Wondering where he gained his vast combat experience, I checked his bio:”

You might also add some other significant things to that resume:

Bill Clinton’s Chief of Staff for 3 years

-assistant to Robert H. Finch, Secretary of the United States Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (which makes him a perfect fit for the Obama Administration)

Appointed Director for the Office of Civil Rights (which makes him a perfect fit for the Obama Administration)

Wrote book: (1971 book) Bring Us Together (which makes him a perfect fit for the Obama Administration)

He wrote the Hunger Prevention Act (Public Law 100-435) of 1988 and the Fair Employment Practices Resolution. He was the author of legislation establishing the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary, and legislation providing Medicare coverage for hospice service.....-(which makes him a perfect fit for the Obama Administration)

In short- he is a smart policy wonk who leveraged his liberal credentials into a job for the most left-wing administration in the history of the country. Like the good soldier he has been, he will support any inane policy of this inane administration


34 posted on 01/24/2013 7:04:46 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: central_va

Probably, I am rather dense.


35 posted on 01/24/2013 7:05:09 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Nachum

Will women now be required to register with the Selective Service upon reaching 18 years of age? If not, why not?


36 posted on 01/24/2013 7:05:13 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: cherry; One Name

You are both right on!

I hope my reply did not send the wrong impression. I am against the drafting of women, women have a place and it is not in combat.

I guess, I’m in the “you wanna talk the talk, walk the walk” mode.

In my day, women had the power of feminity, the secret of womanhood, unknown to men, a mystery. Today’s women fail to see what sort of “power” that was.

As far as the death of our culture. Well, it’s dead already, it just hasn’t had a proper burial. Perhaps because the notice has not been sent, the invitations not sealed, not enough hardship has occurred for the younger generation to take a stand.


37 posted on 01/24/2013 7:11:56 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

They have to be required. Any male of that age would be able to sue for discrimination.


38 posted on 01/24/2013 7:11:58 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Nachum

Those offered this chance would quickly dwindle in event of a Draft.


39 posted on 01/24/2013 7:12:04 PM PST by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: doc1019

Think East German Women’s Weight lifting Team circa 1968. Are those women really going to be sexually assaulted? By who?


40 posted on 01/24/2013 7:13:31 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
"...Doesn’t sound like a “woman” that can carry a 80 pound pack for days on end is going to be a rape victim..."

When someone is holding a gun to her head, it won't make any difference how big a pack she could carry.

Besides the obvious differences in physical capabilities and the issues of sexual relationships in a unit, just as important is the logistical chain. Women and men are different and have different needs (as if that wasn't obvious to everyone except liberals). The chain is going to be longer and more complicated.

Think of how that logistical chain would have worked out at the Chosin Reservoir had there been a 50-50 mix of men and women, when every single plane or truck carrying supplies was just not enough and they had to make do with what they had. No room for tampons or pads. Granted, a woman under stress in combat may have her menstrual period delayed or stunted, but lest anyone think that is not a factor in anything, one only has to imagine a situation where there are nothing more than torn up fatigues or rags to use to deal with a menstruation. Guys sometimes have to deal with things like crotch rot, which can be a real issue when a forced march has to take place. Imagine how it would be marching in an environment where your pants are caked in the crotch with dried/sticky blood.

And that is just one facet. This is a bad idea, and when things go bad, the people who pushed this the hardest are going to blame everything and everyone else. They will scream the loudest and longest.

41 posted on 01/24/2013 7:14:21 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: rlmorel

Think East German Women’s Weight lifting Team circa 1968. Are those women really going to be sexually assaulted? By who?


42 posted on 01/24/2013 7:16:11 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Nachum

Yup. He definitely has the experience in the corruption and big government departments as well as in pushing the communist agenda.

I can remember when we fought these communist bastards on the battlefield. Now we have them running our government (and running America into the ground).


43 posted on 01/24/2013 7:18:51 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: central_va
Think East German Women’s Weight lifting Team circa 1968. Are those women really going to be sexually assaulted? By who?

East German Mens Weight lifting Team

44 posted on 01/24/2013 7:19:37 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: rlmorel

This is really stupid, the percent of the female population that can hump 80-100 pound packs over rugged terrain is so small as to be insignificant. This whole thing is preposterous. The World has gone insane....You know the physical standards will be changed...


45 posted on 01/24/2013 7:19:41 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Will women now be required to register with the Selective Service upon reaching 18 years of age? If not, why not?

Coincidentally, I searched that today and couldn't find mention of it.

46 posted on 01/24/2013 7:20:01 PM PST by Jane Long
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To: cherry
and sending young women into combat battle and having them killed in massive numbers will surely be the final death of our culture...

No, its not our culture. Our culture is already dead.

47 posted on 01/24/2013 7:21:30 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Nachum

You’re a snake, Panetta. You’ve allowed this Marxist president to castrate, feminize, and demoralize our armed forces. Now I have to hear about WOMEN being captured, raped, brutalized, tortured, decapitated etc.? What a joke. A sick joke. Blood is on your hands, you slime. This will not be forgotten, and your name will go down in history as the worst defense secretary this country has ever seen.
It is a HUMAN tradition and practice not to put women on the front line. It’s not American. It’s not even Western. It’s HUMAN. No successful military in civilized history has sent women to die in the horrific conditions of the front line where only men belong. The only good examples are countries who train women for combat for the defense of the nation, because they don’t have a choice (Israel).
I could complain about all the problems that will arise from this: women’s body differences compared to men, how they could make male soldiers act in a combat situation, rape... but I don’t have to. These things are secondary. First and foremost, you do not recognize women as having the same options as men when it comes to combat, because you then have to recognize responsibility. Women will then be drafted. Daughters dragged away to the darkest holes on Earth to fight savages like the Muslims, to be shot up, taken hostage, have their fingers cut off. It is against all that is decent. It goes against every male instinct. Women serve as patriots in wars, as support personnel, medics, and drivers, but when it comes to going into battle in the old tradition, men shoulder that responsibility in the same spirit that we see women and children safely off sinking ships before thinking of our own lives.

If this goes through without the opposition rising up, we have not only lost another piece of traditional America, we have lost a piece of our humanity, and the results will be too horrific to contemplate, all on the head of this inept swine.


48 posted on 01/24/2013 7:25:29 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Nachum
First we get rid of Clinton's DADT policy....because we've "evolved" and anyway it's a matter of Fairness.

Now we have females integrated into combat units, and soon the army Rangers and the navy SEALS....because we've "evolved" and anyway it's a matter of Fairness.

Now in all the arguing for this new policy (well in the day and 1/2 discussion about it) has ANYONE mentioned how this brave new military's combat readiness and efficiency is being enhanced by these new 0bama policies???? Because I sure haven't.

49 posted on 01/24/2013 7:26:02 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: KittenClaws

No misunderstanding at all. I was just springboarding off your comment. Women can be plenty tough. Pioneer and farm women stood up plenty of times while their man was away. Don’t threaten a real woman who is charged with protecting children- she will put herself between them and harm and fight to the death.

But, I believe we don’t put women in that position unless there are no options.


50 posted on 01/24/2013 7:26:06 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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