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St. Louis County police warn of new drug in area: 'N-Bomb'
stltoday.com ^ | January 8, 2013 | JOEL CURRIER

Posted on 01/08/2013 12:37:07 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper

Police here are warning of a new hallucinogenic drug authorities say has begun circulating the St. Louis area.

St. Louis County police say the synthetic drug known as "N-Bomb" has been linked to deaths in other parts of the country including California, Louisiana, Minnesota, North Dakota and Virginia.

The drug, sometimes also called "Smiles" is known as N-Bomb for its chemical compositions, 2C-1-NBOMe or 251NBOMe, and can be extremely potent and dangerous, police say.

Police say the liquid drug is often called "legal acid" and is derived from mescaline. Users typically take the drug by ingesting blotter paper soaked with the liquid, similar to LSD.

Officer Randy Vaughn of the St. Louis County police said county's undercover drug officers have reported purchasing the drug recently.

According to media reports, the drug was banned in Virginia last year and later outlawed in Louisiana after a 21-year-old man died at a New Orleans music festival in November. The man apparently took N-Bomb from a stranger, began convulsing and died a short time later.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 251nbome; 2c1nbome; drugs; drugwar; legalacid; mescaline; nbomb; smiles; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd
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1 posted on 01/08/2013 12:37:17 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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"Every time she would open her eyes she would see bright lights, so she had to keep her eyes closed," Alves said. "Her perception of sound changed. She thought she was whispering, but she was told she was screaming. She also had uncontrollable body movements and then she also had—which is the scariest part—difficulty breathing."
2 posted on 01/08/2013 12:40:03 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Jaime Foxx and Quinten Tarintino highly recommend the N-bomb.


3 posted on 01/08/2013 12:41:26 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

FWIW

Here is some rare footage of 1950s housewife in LSD experiment.flv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGf2loLAwVE


4 posted on 01/08/2013 1:01:50 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Drug legalization is about all drugs, current and future, and libertarianism is about unlimited marketing and advertising of them.


5 posted on 01/08/2013 1:04:39 PM PST by ansel12
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To: brownsfan

I was thinking the ‘daredevil’ scene in Kentucky Fried Movie.


6 posted on 01/08/2013 1:06:02 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ansel12

My gosh you’re stupid.


7 posted on 01/08/2013 1:09:42 PM PST by DManA
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To: ansel12

As I understand it, we are not supposed to care...

“I don’t care what people put in their bodies.”


8 posted on 01/08/2013 1:14:38 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Queue in ‘Robo Cop’. the new drug of choice, ‘Nuke’.


9 posted on 01/08/2013 1:15:50 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: TurboZamboni

Do you mean Rex Kramer, danger seeker?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7S5BP-tvR8


10 posted on 01/08/2013 1:20:48 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Berlin_Freeper
My husband had a severe type of arthritis that glued his bones together and he was in constant pain and the pain specialist had him on fentanyl patches which is an opioid pain reliever. The doc said the strength he had my husband on would put both of us on the floor. I never touched a patch if it was out of its package.

He also said kids were stealing these patches from parents plus buying them on the street and squeezing them to get the liquid fentanyl and swallowing it and they were dying from this.

I then said to my husband, “If we get short of money, we'll sell your patches on the street.” The doctor nearly fainted - he never could take a joke.

Kids are nuts - these patches are designed to gradually put the pain med into the body - drinking that is just asking to die.

11 posted on 01/08/2013 1:23:26 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: EEGator
No this:
12 posted on 01/08/2013 1:25:06 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: stuartcr

She seems awfully into it with a dosage of only 100 mikes.


13 posted on 01/08/2013 1:26:51 PM PST by FredZarguna (Liberals: they devolved, they rebelled, there are many copies ... and they have a Plan)
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To: EEGator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hg-nM3YLnE


14 posted on 01/08/2013 1:26:57 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: ansel12

This all shows the problem with having things illegal, not legal. Thanks to LSD being illegal somebody made a drug that kind of has similar high effects, though clearly has dramatically worse effects on the body. Same kind of thing with “bath salts”, and synthetic weed out there. To get around the laws people make more dangerous, but legal, products that give the same effect. It just goes to show, no matter how much you make illegal people will do what they want.


15 posted on 01/08/2013 1:31:02 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: Marcella
They are also smoking that stuff.
16 posted on 01/08/2013 1:31:24 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Marcella

A local kid took his mother’s fetanyl patches and slapped them all over himself and died.
Sweet kid so it’s a real loss.


17 posted on 01/08/2013 1:32:37 PM PST by Rytas
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To: Marcella

I guess I’m cold hearted - if a kid will steal medication one of his parents needs, then he is always going to be a drain on society and I wouldn’t mourn the loss of someone like that.


18 posted on 01/08/2013 1:37:11 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (The DNC loves abortion so much they will now be called the D&C)
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To: EEGator
Funny, but not as good as the outtake from the same movie that parodies Enter the Dragon, entitled A Fistful of Yen.

The sequence from 18:50-20:20 is absolutely side-splitting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWXINqfcX0o

19 posted on 01/08/2013 1:38:48 PM PST by FredZarguna (Liberals: they devolved, they rebelled, there are many copies ... and they have a Plan)
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To: Hammerhead

I remember Robocop. I was referencing TurboZamboni’s talking about the Kentucky Fried Movie.


20 posted on 01/08/2013 1:39:54 PM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

that’s him


21 posted on 01/08/2013 1:40:08 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: FredZarguna

I guess different folks got different body chemistry.


22 posted on 01/08/2013 1:40:27 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: discostu

LSD is a very dangerous drug, both short and long term usage.

So you want drugs you think are safer.

That means you need to draw a line.

Then we can draw the line at alcohol since it is legal.


23 posted on 01/08/2013 1:40:38 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

LSD isn’t a dangerous drug, short or long term. There’s a lot of hype from the drug warriors on it, but it is 100% lies. It’s not even possible to OD on it, that’s how not dangerous it is.


24 posted on 01/08/2013 1:43:10 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I hadn’t read of any actual cases but this confirms what the doctor said. I simply couldn’t believe kids would do this. We were careful with those patches but kids are drinking/smoking it. Would anyone in their right mind just take a med, as much of it as they wanted, not caring what the dosage is?


25 posted on 01/08/2013 1:43:10 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella
Would anyone in their right mind just take a med, as much of it as they wanted, not caring what the dosage is?

Illicit drug users aren't the smartest people.

26 posted on 01/08/2013 1:47:02 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: discostu

How many people know a long term LSD user?

Not many functioning it society are there?

We both agree, a line needs to be drawn.


27 posted on 01/08/2013 1:48:57 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: FredZarguna

True...it’s a great flick.


28 posted on 01/08/2013 1:49:55 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Meanwhile back in reality:
LSD is physiologically well tolerated and there is no evidence for long-lasting effects on brain and other parts of the human organism

http://www.maps.org/research/cluster/psilo-lsd/cns-neuroscience+therapeutics_2008-passie.pdf

The reason long term drug users have issues functioning in society isn’t the drugs, it’s their want of them. People that can’t hack reality can’t hack reality, with or without drugs.

We don’t agree on anything. No line needs to be drawn, because drawing those lines accomplishes NOTHING. People that want to do drugs will, prohibition fails over and over again.


29 posted on 01/08/2013 1:53:38 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: Marcella

Unfortunately some people in their youth don’t consider their own mortality. Figures, what with the poor education system. But look at who runs that, the liberal drug pushers.


30 posted on 01/08/2013 1:56:05 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Alaska Wolf
I'll tell you what happened to me. I have a fast metabolism so medicine does a number on me fast - AS DOES ALCOHOL. I can feel a glass of wine so I don't drink much of any alcoholic drink. I prefer to be in my right mind.

Well, my husband and I go to a popular Mexican restaurant with a lady friend and I order a Margarita - one of those will last through my entire meal, drinking it slowly. The drinks arrived (I didn't know this restaurant puts in two shots of alcohol in there). In a short while, I couldn't see straight and I mean just that, I was a mess. My husband and the lady were having a great time laughing at me but I hated that condition. After the meal, husband had to help me to the car.

Now, at any restaurant, I always ask the waiter how a drink is made at that particular restaurant.

31 posted on 01/08/2013 1:57:02 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: discostu
prohibition fails over and over again.

As do laws against rape, robbery, burglary and murder. Would they stop if we rescinded the laws against them?

32 posted on 01/08/2013 1:58:31 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: discostu

Someone pushing LSD on FR is telling me about reality -LoL!

Drugs don’t harm people?

But you just posted about harmful drugs and suggested drawing a line.

I agree about that.


33 posted on 01/08/2013 2:01:13 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Alaska Wolf

Prohibition causes more harm than good. Drug availability doesn’t stop or drop from prohibition, and the consequences of prohibition are more crime, and the destruction of freedom for law-abiding citizens.


34 posted on 01/08/2013 2:03:26 PM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: Marcella
I can feel a glass of wine so I don't drink much of any alcoholic drink

You show a very low tolerance to alcohol. If I were you, I'd refrain from using it in any form.

35 posted on 01/08/2013 2:03:26 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“LSD is a very dangerous drug, both short and long term usage.”

Bing, bing, bing. We have a winner for the most know-nothing, laugh-out-loud nonsense posted today! Thanks for the chuckle!


36 posted on 01/08/2013 2:03:55 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’m not pushing anything, I’m pointing out that your statement was false. You said LSD was dangerous in both short and long term effects, I showed you a link to pharmaceutical studies showing that’s not true.

I didn’t say drugs don’t harm people either. I said LSD doesn’t harm people, and that most of the major issues you find with long term drug users stem from them not the drug. Most folks that need a vacation from reality have issues whether or not they get that vacation. Habitual long term drug users are people that have habitually “needed” a break from reality for a long time. Now many things we stick in our body, including legal things, do a bit of damage a long the way. Including alcohol.

I did not suggest drawing a line. I pointed out that having things illegal just makes people find ways to create the same effect with something else, often something MUCH more hazardous. No lines mentioned

You’re O-fer here. Everything you’ve said I said I didn’t, work on your reading comprehension.


37 posted on 01/08/2013 2:07:14 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: servantoftheservant
Prohibition causes more harm than good

Would rape, robbery, burglary and murder stop if we rescinded the laws against them?

38 posted on 01/08/2013 2:08:26 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: dagogo redux
Just like I said:

Hallucinogens can cause extreme, long-lasting adverse neuropsychiatric effects, like flashbacks (post-hallucination perceptual disorders), relatively long-lasting psychoses, severe depression or shizophrenia-like syndromes, especially in heavy or long-term users or in people with an underlying mental illness.

39 posted on 01/08/2013 2:09:35 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Alaska Wolf

The difference of course being that the laws against rape, robbery, burglary and murder are laws against you doing things to other people; while laws against drug use are laws against you doing things to yourself. Vast important difference there. Once you decide the government has a place deciding what you do to yourself you’ve opened a very dangerous door, one very similar to socialized medicine, it’s the same door that we now get bans on “too much” soda from.


40 posted on 01/08/2013 2:10:54 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: Marcella

Sheesh...
Whatever happened to those innocent days of yore when kids just huffed glue?


41 posted on 01/08/2013 2:14:07 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: discostu
I showed you a link to pharmaceutical studies showing that’s not true. I didn’t say drugs don’t harm people either. I said LSD doesn’t harm people,

Wrongo.
I don't care what your alleged "pharmaceutical studies" show, LSD can mess people up big time, long term. The real stuff, the potent stuff, is very very

42 posted on 01/08/2013 2:19:23 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“Whatever happened to those innocent days of yore when kids just huffed glue?”

Or what about a schoolmate in elemematry school who ate paste? Did you have one of those? And, the classmate who put his blue pen in his mouth to turn his mouth blue?


43 posted on 01/08/2013 2:20:49 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Doesn’t matter how hard you stick your fingers in your ears and yell LALALALALA the facts are the facts and the facts are LSD has no long term effects.


44 posted on 01/08/2013 2:21:17 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: discostu
You said, and I quote:
Thanks to LSD being illegal somebody made a drug that kind of has similar high effects, though clearly has dramatically worse effects on the body. Same kind of thing with “bath salts”, and synthetic weed out there.
Right there, you said drugs are bad. To stop people from using drugs, you want to idiotically legalize drugs. But your goal is still to stop people from those drugs.

I do agree with you about the goal of stopping drugs.

45 posted on 01/08/2013 2:21:27 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: discostu

Where was I?


46 posted on 01/08/2013 2:22:56 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: discostu

Tell that to Syd Barrett, Brian Wilson, Peter Green... on infinitum.


47 posted on 01/08/2013 2:24:45 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Oh my God! Not flash backs backs backs backs!?


48 posted on 01/08/2013 2:25:05 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

No I didn’t say drugs are bad. I said people are making legal substitutes that do damage, more than the illegal thing. Lots of stuff does damage to the body. That alcohol you keep saying is OK does damage. My soda. Coffee. Cigs. The sun. Lack of sun. That doesn’t make them bad, just means the body gets banged up a lot.

And I don’t have a goal of stopping people from doing drugs.

You really really need to work on your reading comprehension.


49 posted on 01/08/2013 2:29:20 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: discostu
; while laws against drug use are laws against you doing things to yourself

Is that why we have DUI laws?

50 posted on 01/08/2013 2:29:31 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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