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Judge savagely ridicules Orly Taitz in Jan 3rd hearing.
American Resistance Party ^ | 1-3-2013 | Edward C. Noonan

Posted on 01/04/2013 1:34:11 AM PST by ednoonan7

For Immediate Release Jan 3, 2013: Federal Judge England's "non-stop ridicule" of Attorney Orly Taitz offended Courtroom Visitors!

By Plaintiff: Edward C. Noonan

There is only one term that can describe Sacramento’s Chief Federal Judge Morrison C. England Jr. And that term is a Cesspool bottom-feeder. I have nothing but contempt for this unprofessional pig.

I sat at the Plaintiff’s table with Orly Taitz and I was filled with outrage at the way this scum-bag was treating my attorney. And, of course, while he was ridiculing my attorney, he was likewise ridiculing me.

At the beginning, anyone with at least two brain cells in their head, could tell that England was bent on making the hearing a mockery of justice and had no impartiality in the matter before him...NONE! He declared that OBAMA WAS THE PRESIDENT AND THE MATTER HAD ALREADY BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE HAWAIIAN HEALTH DIRECTOR. Orly tried to tell him that this so-called "birth certificate" had been proven to be a forgery and Sheriff Apario had declared the document to be fraudulent, but England did not want any facts to be presented to him…he already had his mind made up.

He chided Orly for being sanctioned by other courts throughout the United States. He acted as if all of Orly's cases had been given a fair hearing and the cases were lost by poor evidence and poor witnesses. Orly told the scumbag judge that not a single judge in the United States had given her an honest chance for DISCOVERY and a fair hearing.

But at least it was easy to tell when England was lying! Whenever his lips moved and words came out of his mouth it was ANOTHER LIE! Not a single word he said had the slightest appearance of truth. For instance, he rebuked Orly for not giving the Federal government “proper service.” But Orly was slapped down when she attempted to testify that a private process service had provided the service (for $500). He did not want to hear any of our challenges concerning the illegal alien, SOETORO. It was his firm desire to ignore all the crimes concerning Soetoro’s bogus and felonious birth certificate, selective service registration and bogus social security number(s). England wanted to shut his eyes to these reports of crimes and refused hear any of Orly’s charges of these felonies being committed by the illegal alien scum-bag in the White House. England happily became a conspirator of the crimes of Soetoro and likewise became a collaborator in the felonys of the law-breaker-in-chief.

England offended me every time words came out of his lying mouth, and I continuously sat shaking my head directly at him showing him I did not agree with him. I was hoping he would address me so I could give him a piece of my mind but he was too much of a chicken poop to confront me as a plaintiff. The Federal Marshals were more concerned at my silent angry body-language as I glared at this ridiculing bozo on the bench.

The Sacramento Bee gave a somewhat accurate hearsay version of the court proceedings. You can read their leftist version at: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/01/03/5091099/orly-taitzs-obama-birther-claims.html#storylink=cpy

The Bee version got it somewhat correct and that is concerning the dissatisfaction of most of the packed crowd in the courtroom. They report, "The reaction from courtroom watchers was unmistakable. "Mockery," one man shouted as he stormed out, followed by another who was holding his nose.

"That really stinks," he proclaimed.

The Federal Marshals were visibly concerned and scared of a possible riot of the crowd and quickly ordered all 70-80 of us out of the courtroom (after the cesspool judge denied the TRO.) So we all retired out into the hallway and then while we were clapping for Orly for the fantastic job she did in the slug fest with this corrupt Federal Judge, the Marshals ordered us out of the building. They said we were to remove ourselves to the outside of the building - - implying that we were not welcome in their FEDERAL COURT BUILDING.

I wonder what career promises were made to England in exchange for the circus he provided today? I am sure England’s bank account will soon show an increase and Soetoro (aka BHO) will forever be in his debt.

Plaintiff: Edward C. Noonan Founder - National Committee Chairman American Resistance Party

Sacramento Bee photo

Some other LEFTIST 1/3/13 writeups:

http://www.lodinews.com/ap/state/article_49be0d7e-560a-11e2-914f-0017a4aa4fba.html

http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2013/jan/03/judge-rejects-birther-challenge-to-electoral-count/

http://www.vcstar.com/news/2013/jan/03/judge-rejects-birther-challenge-to-electoral/?print=1


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: afterbirfturds; birferbutthurt; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; nwo; whackamole
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1 posted on 01/04/2013 1:34:25 AM PST by ednoonan7
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To: ednoonan7
He declared that OBAMA WAS THE PRESIDENT AND THE MATTER HAD ALREADY BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE HAWAIIAN HEALTH DIRECTOR.

who used weaselized words which gives enough cover for the spineless judiciary and others.

2 posted on 01/04/2013 1:41:07 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I’ve decided to just be an old coot .. glaring at young women lecherously and speaking my mind publically, accepting the judgement that I’m just an old fart and don’t pay me no mind.


3 posted on 01/04/2013 1:51:41 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ednoonan7

While I don’t believe Obama was born in America I also think Orly Taitz is a complete kook.


4 posted on 01/04/2013 1:52:12 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Interesting statement.


5 posted on 01/04/2013 2:07:28 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: ednoonan7
Freisler
6 posted on 01/04/2013 2:21:54 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: circlecity

I admire Orly Taitz


7 posted on 01/04/2013 2:32:45 AM PST by tommix2 (,)
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To: ednoonan7

Justice is dead.

The future holds great tribulation.

It is going to be very, very bad.


8 posted on 01/04/2013 2:49:59 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: ednoonan7; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; KC_Lion; Godzilla; Domestic Church; ...

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Ping.

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9 posted on 01/04/2013 3:00:03 AM PST by LucyT (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: circlecity
The matter will never get a fair hearing. When it comes to the dictator, our judiciary has been thoroughly corrupted. I'm just curious as to what the Obama administration has on these judges. Their reluctance to even hear this matter must be more than a fear of allegations of racism.
10 posted on 01/04/2013 3:00:49 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: ednoonan7

The sad part is that we have PhonyCon RINOs (Hannity, O’Reilly, Coulter, Malkin, etc) who support everything this judge has done....with the same disdain for the Obama Eligibility folks.


11 posted on 01/04/2013 3:11:22 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: ednoonan7

The sad part is that we have PhonyCon RINOs (Hannity, O’Reilly, Coulter, Malkin, etc) who support everything this judge has done....with the same disdain for the Obama Eligibility folks.


12 posted on 01/04/2013 3:11:51 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: ednoonan7
Photo of the proceedings...

13 posted on 01/04/2013 3:20:59 AM PST by wolficatZ (Hey blue states....Got Food?)
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To: ednoonan7
The US is well past the tipping point. Obama could now make a speech from the oval office and state that he was born in Kenya and nothing would be done. He could and did declare Congress in recess for purposes of making appointments and nothing was done. He could declare that the debt ceiling does not prevent him from borrowing as much money as necessary to keep the government running and nothing will be done. Obama is becoming Hugo Chavez less the troublesome health problem.
14 posted on 01/04/2013 3:40:28 AM PST by Truth29
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
“The future holds great tribulation.

It is going to be very, very bad.”

These were my first thoughts this morning: An aging Supreme Court; a Democrat led Senate; and Obama back in office. Enough liberal justices in the next few years to turn the court and affect America for the next 20+ years.

15 posted on 01/04/2013 3:53:53 AM PST by Humal
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Yes, this man has the Devil’s luck and lemmings.


16 posted on 01/04/2013 3:59:21 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Humal

“...America for the next 20+ years.”

We won’t last that long.


17 posted on 01/04/2013 4:07:08 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: circlecity; exnavy; ednoonan7; mnehring
I know quite a number of people idolize Orly in FR, but in my opinion she is either a kook or a plant. One or the other. If she is genuine, then she may emotionally/intellectually unstable. If she is emotionally/intellectually stable, then she may not be genuine.

Why?

Well, she always does things in a manner that sabotages the outcome. Somewhat tantamount to someone buying powerful vehicle to participate in a race, getting the right driver, getting the right tires, practicing like crazy ...and then during the day of the race only filling up the car with 60% of the fuel required to finish the rally! Look at the following link (FR link) below, where Orly took a lot of documents to a Mississippi court in April last year trying to prevent Obama from running, but somehow 'forgot' to sign any of them (automatically making the whole thing useless).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2874480/posts

Or look at this other (FR) thread here, where a group also opposed to Obama's eligibility wrote about their dealings with her.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2852171/posts

I have nothing against the lady, and I do not know her in any capacity, but I do know that if I was being represented in a legal matter I would find it highly negligent if my lawyer somehow 'forgot' to sign documents knowing the impact that would have on the case. I might even ponder on who exactly 'my' lawyer is working for. Anyways, I wish Ms Taitz all the best, but I can guarantee that a) her case will go nowhere, and b) even though there would still be a small chance for success, that chance would at least be (significantly) greater with another person pushing it.

Orly is either a plant, or she may be dealing with personal issues.

18 posted on 01/04/2013 4:09:58 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: circlecity

She may be but she has never stopped fighting obama. What have you done to defeat his evil?

LLS


19 posted on 01/04/2013 4:19:07 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: tommix2

I do too Tom.

LLS


20 posted on 01/04/2013 4:19:59 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: circlecity

I watched the live feed of one of her key appearances in court here in GA. She’s a disaster when presenting is all there is to it.


21 posted on 01/04/2013 4:19:59 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"She may be but she has never stopped fighting obama. What have you done to defeat his evil? LLS"

I've accomplished everyt bit as much as Orly "nutburger" Taitz.

22 posted on 01/04/2013 4:22:06 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SeminoleCounty
hannity will be gone one day... his radio and TV show are declining in viewers and listeners. I gave up on his book selling crap years ago. He may be a nice man but he has no brain, no plan, no initiative and he is just as much inside the beltway as o’bloviator.

LLS

23 posted on 01/04/2013 4:22:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: spetznaz

Problem with your analogy is that more experienced lawyers have received the same treatment from the courts. And, the same nasty comments from Obama Supporter PhonyCons


24 posted on 01/04/2013 4:24:55 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: FreedomPoster

She is there and she is fighting... that is more than most on this thread can claim. I see no one in the republican machine fighting in any way. Even if she is crazy... I appreciate her battling for us... for it is for us that she is doing this.

LLS


25 posted on 01/04/2013 4:25:10 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: circlecity

Name one thing that you have done to question obama on anything that has made it into National news?

LLS


26 posted on 01/04/2013 4:26:11 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"Name one thing that you have done to question obama on anything that has made it into National news? LLS"

You are correct. I have not had any spectacular failures, or nutty antics, laughed at on the national news. But then you don't have to be an attention whore to fight for the cause.

27 posted on 01/04/2013 4:28:26 AM PST by circlecity
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To: LibLieSlayer

True about Hannity. His show is nosediving because he is intellectually challenged and dishonest with his viewers.


28 posted on 01/04/2013 4:30:35 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: LibLieSlayer

True about Hannity. His show is nosediving because he is intellectually challenged and dishonest with his viewers.


29 posted on 01/04/2013 4:31:12 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: circlecity

At least she is fighting and she is doing it for me and you. If nothing else... she is driving the left as crazy as she is. We are at war... I support anyone that attacks the enemy in any way. Make them expend their capital... tie them up in court... make them waste their time defending. If this judge is fighting Orly... he isn’t banning guns or taking away more of our freedom.

LLS


30 posted on 01/04/2013 4:33:46 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Absolutely. I think that he has done more damage than good.

LLS


31 posted on 01/04/2013 4:34:38 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"Make them expend their capital... tie them up in court"

It's OUR capital (those of us who work and pay taxes) that's being expended in those Court cases.

32 posted on 01/04/2013 4:37:01 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
While I don't believe Obama was born in America I also think Orly Taitz is a complete kook.

I believe Hawaiian officials who say Obama was born there. As for Taitz, she cooked her case using the nonsense generated by birther troll polarik who she refers to as " Dr. Ron Polarik". Polarik basically pwned her along with a bunch of people here.

33 posted on 01/04/2013 4:40:39 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: fatnotlazy
Their reluctance to even hear this matter must be more than a fear of allegations of racism.

Charges of racism are for the public show. The real intimidation begins when two men in suits show up at your workplace and show you photos taken at the park yesterday of your children and say what lovely kids they are and that it'd be a shame if anything were to happen to them. At that point you OWN that judge. Our Communists are no different than Communists the world over. You don't control people by threatening THEM you threaten to do harm to their family; their kids, their spouse, their parents or their siblings. After that they will do ANYTHING they are told to do.
34 posted on 01/04/2013 4:50:29 AM PST by 762X51
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To: SeminoleCounty; LibLieSlayer
I don't have much of a response to that ...what you say is true. I can also add (in her favor) that sometimes one has to work with what one has. If, out of a nation of better people, only Orly has the courage to stand up and be counted, then Orly is the one to stand up and be counted. This is the same rationale, by the way, that I use towards those people who claim that Martin Luther King Jr was flawed (he was) or that Rosa Parks was not being altruistic (possible). In essence, the 'good Samaritan' story, whereby even though there were 'better' people available those people didn't do much and thus it was left to the good Samaritan. A good Samaritan is far better than a Priest and a Levite who walk by.

Thus, I see the point that you are LLS are making, and it holds water.

However, I so sincerely wish some other lawyer was available.

35 posted on 01/04/2013 4:52:03 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: circlecity

Dude... they are going to spend every penny of their budget... Base Line Budgeting you know. I’d rather them waste the money defending themselves than use it to defeat us.

LLS


36 posted on 01/04/2013 4:54:19 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: spetznaz

I am in complete agreement with everything that you said.

LLS


37 posted on 01/04/2013 4:56:48 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"Dude... they are going to spend every penny of their budget"

There is no budget and they just print whatever money they need. At best this just gives them as excuse to hire more liberal Judges, lawyers and court staff. To the libs any chance to spend taxpayer money is a feature not a bug.

38 posted on 01/04/2013 5:00:46 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

“I also think Orly Taitz is a complete kook.”

She is more American than you will ever be.


39 posted on 01/04/2013 5:01:45 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) (uuue)
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To: LibLieSlayer

No, I don’t think she’s crazy.

I’m just resigned to the situation.

She needed to be working with someone who could present her material more effectively.


40 posted on 01/04/2013 5:02:21 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ednoonan7

“Judge savagely ridicules Orly Taitz in Jan 3rd hearing.”

This will please a good number of “conservatives” here.


41 posted on 01/04/2013 5:02:30 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
"She is more American than you will ever be."

IF being an American means being a complete kook then she can have it.

42 posted on 01/04/2013 5:06:04 AM PST by circlecity
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

When a US military vet can be arrested for having “unregistered” ammunition but David Gregory gets a pass for waiving a firearm accessory that is illegal in the same jurisdiction, we have proof we have moved from a nation of laws to a nation of power and influence.

We have the same parallel in the case of Joh Corzine’s missing client monies.

This has horrible implications for our liberties and prosperity. People will start to focus their energies on how to game the system to their advantage rather than how they can create value for others and how they must treat others.

If we lament this change in the US, Europe has always had this system. If I wanted to live under a European system, I would have moved there. Likewise, if I wanted to live in Mexico, I would have moved there. Now we get to live in EuroMex-America.

This will not end well.


43 posted on 01/04/2013 5:13:29 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: FreedomPoster
She needed to be working with someone who could present her material more effectively.

Unfortunately, Larry Harmon died in 2008.

44 posted on 01/04/2013 5:26:42 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: circlecity
Base Line Budgeting is reality. Yes... they just print up what they want... and again I say that it is better for them to spend it defending themselves rather that stealing our Liberty. If I had my way... no debt ceiling deal... let the government cut 20% out of every agency and every department... across the board. They will never do that so make them defend themselves and tie them up as much as possible. Does anyone ever study how the dims beat us in just 8 short years? I guess not... well I did.

LLS

45 posted on 01/04/2013 5:31:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: ednoonan7

Look, Orly isn’t the best lawyer. She has brought more cases, spoken to (and given more documents to) more Supreme Court Justices than anyone else. She has gone on EVERY radio or TV show possible. NO ONE (by a MILE) has done more to keep this issue alive than Orly Taitz. Would I want the best lawyer, who doesn’t give a crap about my case or a dedicated, passionate, unflappable, never give up, lawyer like Orly Taitz? Orly wins hands down.

All of you that are attacking the messenger, are not being helpful. You all hail Joe Arpaio on discovering the BC made up of layers and a fabricated document. Well, Orly discovered this about FIVE YEARS AGO. Orly’s volume of work on the eligibility issue is voluminous! Is there a couple of errors in this body of work? Of course. Orly chases down EVERY lead.

So stop picking on a great American patriot, Orly Taitz. Switch your aim from the messenger to the real target, POTUS, “Poser Of The United States”.


46 posted on 01/04/2013 5:34:20 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Mr. Know It All

Wouldn’t surprise me to see a few of the sitting supreme court justices (the conservatives ones) suddenly come up with a career ending problem, only to be immediately replaced by Odumbo worshipers like this judge. I put NOTHING, NOTHING agaisn’t Odumbo and his ilk.


47 posted on 01/04/2013 5:36:07 AM PST by Progov
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To: FreedomPoster

If there were someone else... they would be with her... there is not... so I support her and for the reasons that I have stated in this thread.

LLS


48 posted on 01/04/2013 5:37:25 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: faucetman
Also, I must question the motives of those who attempt to tear down Orly Taitz. Why try to subtly discredit her? Most are band wagon jumpers, but someone is driving that band wagon.
49 posted on 01/04/2013 5:40:25 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: palmer
"I believe Hawaiian officials who say Obama was born there."

Supreme Court cases that cite “natural born Citizen” as one born on U.S. soil to citizen parents:

The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)

Ann Scott was born in South Carolina before the American revolution, and her father adhered to the American cause and remained and was at his death a citizen of South Carolina. There is no dispute that his daughter Ann, at the time of the Revolution and afterwards, remained in South Carolina until December, 1782. Whether she was of age during this time does not appear. If she was, then her birth and residence might be deemed to constitute her by election a citizen of South Carolina. If she was not of age, then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country. Her citizenship, then, being prima facie established, and indeed this is admitted in the pleadings, has it ever been lost, or was it lost before the death of her father, so that the estate in question was, upon the descent cast, incapable of vesting in her? Upon the facts stated, it appears to us that it was not lost and that she was capable of taking it at the time of the descent cast.

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights.' Again: 'I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. . . .

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939),

Was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen and that the child's natural born citizenship is not lost if the child is taken to and raised in the country of the parents' origin, provided that upon attaining the age of majority, the child elects to retain U.S. citizenship "and to return to the United States to assume its duties." Not only did the court rule that she did not lose her native born Citizenship but it upheld the lower courts decision that she is a "natural born Citizen of the United States" because she was born in the USA to two naturalized U.S. Citizens.

But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg 'solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship.' The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants [307 U.S. 325, 350] (Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U.S. 227 , 57 S.Ct. 461, 108 A.L.R. 1000), declared Miss Elg 'to be a natural born citizen of the United States' (99 F.2d 414) and we think that the decree should include the Secretary of State as well as the other defendants. The decree in that sense would in no way interfere with the exercise of the Secretary's discretion with respect to the issue of a passport but would simply preclude the denial of a passport on the sole ground that Miss Elg had lost her American citizenship."

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

50 posted on 01/04/2013 5:50:41 AM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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