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U.S. Terrorism Agency to Tap a Vast Database of Citizens (Big Brother lives)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 12/12/12 | Julia Angwin

Posted on 12/13/2012 6:45:08 AM PST by TonyInOhio

Top U.S. intelligence officials gathered in the White House Situation Room in March to debate a controversial proposal. Counterterrorism officials wanted to create a government dragnet, sweeping up millions of records about U.S. citizens—even people suspected of no crime.

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The rules now allow the little-known National Counterterrorism Center to examine the government files of U.S. citizens for possible criminal behavior, even if there is no reason to suspect them. That is a departure from past practice, which barred the agency from storing information about ordinary Americans unless a person was a terror suspect or related to an investigation.

Now, NCTC can copy entire government databases—flight records, casino-employee lists, the names of Americans hosting foreign-exchange students and many others. The agency has new authority to keep data about innocent U.S. citizens for up to five years, and to analyze it for suspicious patterns of behavior. Previously, both were prohibited. Data about Americans "reasonably believed to constitute terrorism information" may be permanently retained.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
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To: TonyInOhio

Forward......into George Orwell’s world.


41 posted on 12/13/2012 10:48:58 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Carry_Okie

>>I see virtually nothing in the way of citizen logistical preparation on an organized and practiced basis, particularly since the National Guard is nearly completely Federalized. The people can buy all the guns and ammo they want, but if they don’t have a way to organize and supply said ‘militia of the people,’ they’ve got a losing battle, particularly against an enemy as ruthless as communo-fascists.

Every year the militias in the US run a live-fire training exercise where around 10 million snipers assemble in the woods with guns, ammo, comms, camo, and full logistic trains. Most folks call it “Deer season”. Did you expect CW2 to be fought marching shoulder to shoulder across open fields against the Redcoats?


42 posted on 12/13/2012 10:52:40 AM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: vikingd00d
Every year the militias in the US run a live-fire training exercise where around 10 million snipers assemble in the woods with guns, ammo, comms, camo, and full logistic trains.

Equine feces. They wouldn't last a year.

Most folks call it “Deer season”. Did you expect CW2 to be fought marching shoulder to shoulder across open fields against the Redcoats?

No. They won't have communications. They won't have transportation. They won't have a command structure. Their logistical depth will suck, especially as regards food. While hunting incorporates valuable skills, the entire landscape is being converted before your eyes to be incapable of sustaining a resistance. Witness what wolves have done to the elk herd in Idaho and Montana. It's coming to your neighborhood sooner than you think and hunters have been stupid enough to help.

Did you expect a liberal idiot? I've written a whole book on this topic. I suggest you get a bit more serious.

43 posted on 12/13/2012 11:38:16 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Lazamataz
To the end permitted by our actions and the state of technology.

With our most potent organizing technology being simultaneously ankle chains. Stalin was right about that rope.

While I wanted to believe 'this time would be different', it appears mankind is doomed to repeat the same mistakes, cyclically, in perpetuity.

LOL, if you read Genesis 1-2-4 very carefully, that is exactly what it implies. The key word is the Hebrew for "finishing" everything He had made. Check it out in a lexicon. It means to wipe out, as in "finishing" a glass of wine. The flood. The Sea of Suf. Two exiles. Revelation. Although what He had made was very good, not so with everything He created.

44 posted on 12/13/2012 11:51:52 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: ExSoldier
..."A Republic", replied the Doctor, "if you can keep it."

Sounds like nobody has listened to this warning by Benjamin Franklin...

That's pretty good, but IMHO, no match for...

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." and "it would end in despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall have become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other."

45 posted on 12/13/2012 11:58:12 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Envisioning

F’em indeed - in lead.


46 posted on 12/13/2012 12:20:08 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
Dear US Government :

I am no longer a patriot to you. You have chosen to usurp the Constitution and become The Enemy. If a significant uprising develops, for instance, led by at least one branch of the military, I will join and try to overthrow you to reclaim America for Liberty, Until then I will continue to watch the decline and be defiant in any way that is legal. Got that ? Signed , Me

47 posted on 12/13/2012 12:22:58 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: Carry_Okie

I am Jack Hinson


48 posted on 12/13/2012 12:25:54 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: TonyInOhio; All

Behold my fellow Freepers the creation & institutionalization of the new & improved GehiemeStaatsPolizie.


49 posted on 12/13/2012 12:33:22 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner
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To: TurboZamboni

             
50 posted on 12/13/2012 12:38:18 PM PST by tomkat (liberty or death)
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To: lonevoice

ping


51 posted on 12/13/2012 12:40:23 PM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: Pride in the USA

52 posted on 12/13/2012 1:14:21 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: EdReform
I am Jack Hinson

And his side lost.

53 posted on 12/13/2012 1:18:33 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: ILS21R
Data about Americans “reasonably believed to constitute terrorism information” may be permanently retained.

Reasonably is subjective.

Janet Napolitano will umpire "reasonableness" -- you right-wing terrorist scum.

54 posted on 12/13/2012 2:59:10 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Diogenesis
Today, Dec 13, 2012, the Taliban is the friend of the US gov’t, and the US people who support the US Constitution are its new enemy.

That's called a "pivot". Gotta know how to pivot and pass ... and go for the slam dunk in their faces.

Life is really basketball, you know. If you know about basketball, you can run a country.

55 posted on 12/13/2012 3:02:40 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: TonyInOhio

They have cell phone games now that ask a never ending series of either-or questions that could essentially be used to build a rough marketing and/or personality profile. Big brother can then compare you to known personality samples...such as professionals, dimwit democrats or useful idiots...even samples of violent felons.

Of course, there is always room for interpretation. Possibly you are deemed independent and assertive. And, you have a generally unfavorable profile meaning your not a useful idiot. Your assertiveness may be deemed a propensity to violence. Say hello to the no fly list...given we can instantly scan your license plate => the no tunnel list and no bridge list. Your effectively contained as the threat you might be.


56 posted on 12/13/2012 3:27:34 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Twinkie

“Unions” ...

Indeed, the politicos will fudge the program so that there is no “disparity.”

Equal numbers of union thugs and innocent grandmas will be snagged by the Though Police Drag...Net.

The programming will be a mockery against honesty, as it attempts repeatedly to deny recidivism and exclude from the net of its daily catch, anybody on the take.

The “vast database” is probably some service sold by Google, which happens to be used, unfortunately, by this very forum (FR uses google-analytics).


57 posted on 12/13/2012 3:52:05 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: lonevoice

I didn’t get onboard the series when they have white “thugs” harassing the train passengers on the first episode..

Seriously...the only group whom I’ve witnessed time and time again on subways harass/threaten people/act like children from NY to L.A. are blacks.


58 posted on 12/13/2012 5:22:21 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Carry_Okie; Lazamataz; Jack Hammer; Bitsy; BenLurkin; stickywillie; Envisioning; ExSoldier; ...
Our Sacred Republic has been stolen by a coup from the enemy within.

The ballot box is hopelessly corrupted as witnessed by our last election. . the next will be worse.

The Obama administration plans on destroying capitalism and replacing it with big government socialism/communism.

Armed patriots cannot get our country back without help from the military.

The active duty military and veterans took an oath to protect our country from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Live Free or Die.


59 posted on 12/13/2012 9:30:02 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho
Armed patriots cannot get our country back without help from the military.

Exactly. This is why the liberal takeover of public education since the 1960s is so Satanic in nature. It was an ultra long range goal to brainwash successive generations against gun ownership whereby the children and grandchildren of those initially brainwashed can reinforce the propaganda to their parents and keep the cycle moving.

Now, look at our military and police. All (even those in private schools) subjected to extended propaganda that will allow them to eventually act against the Constitution and against the PEOPLE. All save for a tiny minority that are home schooled. Want proof? Look as far as the post Hurricane Katrina gun confiscations in New Orleans and surrounding areas. National Guard griped that they weren't in Iraq anymore but they still followed orders, didn't they?

60 posted on 12/14/2012 7:44:12 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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