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U.S. Moves Toward Recognizing Syria’s Opposition
The New York Times ^ | November 29, 2012 | By MICHAEL R. GORDON and MARK LANDLER

Posted on 12/01/2012 1:13:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bryan Denton for The New York Times

Rebels in Aleppo, Syria’s largest city, in August. The opposition to the Syrian government is developing a political structure

WASHINGTON — The United States is moving toward recognizing the Syrian opposition as the legitimate representative of the Syrian people as soon as it fully develops its political structure, American officials said Thursday.

A decision to recognize the group could be announced at a so-called Friends of Syria meeting that Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is expected to attend in Morocco on Dec. 12. It is the most immediate decision facing the Obama administration as it considers how to end the government of Bashar al-Assad and stop the violence that has consumed Syria.

President Obama has not signed off on the move, and the meetings to decide the issue have yet to be held. Debates within the administration concern legal issues about the implications of diplomatic recognition, how such a move might affect efforts to enlist Russian support for a political transition in Syria and, most importantly, the state of the opposition.

Britain, France, Turkey and the Gulf Cooperation Council have already recognized the opposition, which was enlarged and overhauled at a meeting in Doha, Qatar, last month at the insistence of the United States and other nations. It is formally known as the National Coalition of Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: france; obama; syria; syriacivilwar; turkey; unitedkingdom; waronterror

1 posted on 12/01/2012 1:13:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Have they even considered whether the opposition will be better for the United States, for Israel, or even for the Syrian people than the current government? I didn’t think so. I hope they are as accommodating of the Tea Party’s battle against socialism in America as they are of other opposition groups.


2 posted on 12/01/2012 1:16:08 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; onyx; Grampa Dave; SunkenCiv; blam; SJackson; BOBTHENAILER; Fred Nerks; ...
I believe this is the article at the Times mentioned last night in this video...multiple clicks to get to video at the Weekly Standard....FR thread:

Special Report Panel on Intervention in Syria-- Nov 30, 2012 -- FOXNEWS Video

Weekly Standard Blog ^ | Nov 30, 2012
Posted on Sat 01 Dec 2012 12:49:29 PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

3 posted on 12/01/2012 1:24:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Pollster1

Obama is leading from behind here once again....donza know.


4 posted on 12/01/2012 1:26:00 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have sources that tell me the Syrian Christians are petrified of this opposition group. They are said to be ultra-islamist, and will ethnically-cleanse the country, meaning wipe out Christians, if they get hold of it.


5 posted on 12/01/2012 1:31:01 PM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great; until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Pollster1

I’m not fan of Assad, but that is the key question. What would come after him? Given Obama’s MO, wouldn’t be surprised to see a future Syria embrace Sharia law and cozy up to Iran & Hezbollah even closer than Assad did.


6 posted on 12/01/2012 1:32:34 PM PST by rbg81
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Another islamist state coming - thanks, Obozo


7 posted on 12/01/2012 1:37:55 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The opposition to the Syrian government is developing a political structure

It is hard core fundamentalist islam.

I expect billions of your tax money in aid forthwith.

8 posted on 12/01/2012 1:38:29 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Migraine
"I have sources that tell me the Syrian Christians are petrified of this opposition group. They are said to be ultra-islamist, and will ethnically-cleanse the country, meaning wipe out Christians, if they get hold of it."

More reason for Obama to support them. He has been systematically overthrowing Middle East secular dictators in order to install the Muslim Brotherhood and other transnational Islamists. Obama will be hailed as the creator of the Greater Caliphate before he is done.

9 posted on 12/01/2012 1:40:28 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Pollster1

No. We must at all costs have worldwide democracy!... later to be sold out to UN bureaucratic totalitarianism. This is the only ‘fair’ position we can take, to encourage a globalist society.

The resistance fighters in Syria have clearly been infiltrated by Al-Queda and the Muslim Brotherhood (same thing). Support for them is support for a new Islamic theocracy with the ultimate goal of destroying Israel and creating a new Islamic caliphate.

What has Assad ever done to us? Sure, he’s a dictator, and occasionally, he has sponsored terrorism from Iran and North Korea, but everyone knows he’s just a narcissistic suit. Like Gaddafi, his only concern is his own power. He’s not comparable to the psychopaths in Iran. We can deal with this guy. In fact, Assad has kept relations with Israel reasonably cordial from what I can tell. We don’t hear Assad yelling “bathe the land in the blood of the Jews!” very often, which to Ahmedinijad is called ‘Wednesday’. The Israelis clearly prefer Assad to a Muslim Brotherhood led Syria.
We should stay out of this war, and let it run its course. In the end, we’d only be setting up a new dictatorship which would be even more hostile.


10 posted on 12/01/2012 1:43:40 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: bigheadfred

First Libya....then Egypt....now Syria....

Trade the dictator you know for Shariah-frenzied jihadi savages.

Of course, it all started 33 years ago with Iran.

Here...we...go...again.....(sigh)


11 posted on 12/01/2012 1:44:36 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

It will be all right in the end. I just hope to live long enough to get in on the slaughter of the koranimals.


12 posted on 12/01/2012 1:48:53 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Migraine

I’ve heard that too. IIRC, Assad is actually a member of some minority Islamic group that is not popular with “orthodox” Muslims, and thus his state was relatively tolerant of non-Muslims and Muslim minority sects. It was basically secularist and nationalist rather than Islamist.

Any government in the ME is going to be or become a dictatorship, because Islam simply makes anything else impossible. The reason everybody from Saddam and Assad to Ghadaffi and Murbarak ran their secret prisons and harsh states is that otherwise they would have been overthrown by the Islamists a long time ago. I’m not saying a police state is a good thing, but the simple reality of the fact is that Islam cannot coexist with anything, either a secular state or other religions, no matter how permissive of Islam they may be. Permissiveness, in fact, emboldens the Muslims and makes them dream of making their control absolute.


13 posted on 12/01/2012 1:54:25 PM PST by livius
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To: Pollster1
Have they even considered whether the opposition will be better for the United States, for Israel, or even for the Syrian people than the current government?

They most certainly have studied it quite thoroughly! Otherwise, they would not be moving to support them. Clearly, they've determined that they *will* be worse for the US/Israel/Syrian-people, and thus worthy of Øbama's full support (and taxpayer dollars).

14 posted on 12/01/2012 1:56:33 PM PST by C210N (In favor of private rights and public happiness)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

recognizing worldwide jihad again??? answer to question. wtf did you expect???


15 posted on 12/01/2012 1:56:53 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: livius

Assad is an Alawite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawite


16 posted on 12/01/2012 1:58:13 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I recognize that Syrian opposition is filled with Islamists.


17 posted on 12/01/2012 2:02:46 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

well this clears it up for me. these freedom fighters must surely be militant islamists if they have the support of the democrats.


18 posted on 12/01/2012 2:10:52 PM PST by jjw
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

how about recognizing Egypts opposition to Morsi??


19 posted on 12/01/2012 2:20:39 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: beethovenfan
Sounds like a pipe dream to me. Apparently, nobody has asked Putin. It appears this Muslim administration just can't take a hint from Benghazi?
20 posted on 12/01/2012 2:31:10 PM PST by iontheball
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I hope the new leader will be Mouaz al-Khatib , who is a cousin of my best friend and colleague. He is intelligent, unifying, and is not a hard-line fundamentalist. He is a no nonsense guy who says what he means, and means what he says.
21 posted on 12/01/2012 2:40:39 PM PST by SC DOC
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To: beethovenfan
Sounds like a pipe dream to me. Apparently, nobody has asked Putin. It appears this Muslim administration just can't take a hint from Benghazi?
22 posted on 12/01/2012 2:44:02 PM PST by iontheball
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To: morphing libertarian

Thanks, couldn’t remember the name!


23 posted on 12/01/2012 3:42:42 PM PST by livius
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is all so funny in a way. How many weapons including man pads has the US already provided the Islamic rebel groups fighting in Syria.
So many things have become so transparent in recent days.
24 posted on 12/01/2012 5:07:24 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest.


25 posted on 12/01/2012 5:21:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Food Stamp President takes action to recognize his fellow Sunni Muslims in Syria. See, it isn’t that difficult to tell the truth directly!


26 posted on 12/01/2012 6:23:04 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What is really scary: Barry and Hillary are putting America on a collision course with Russia and China who back Assad.

The ethnic breakdown is the key. Assad's Alawite and Shi'ite Muslims are 13%, 3% are Druze Muslims, Christians 10%, and Sunni Muslims 74%. Iran, a Shi'ite state is allied with Assad. Assad is an Alawite and the Shi'ites, Christians and Druze are backing him because they see the Sunnis as the major threat. Russia and China are backing Iran and Syria.

The Free Syrian Army are Sunni fundamentalists that want to make Syria into another Sharia-compliant Muslim dictatorship. If the Free Syrian Army wins this fight, count on genocide of major proportions as they slaughter the losers. Russia, China, and Iran aren't going to let this happen.

THAT reality puts the idiotic Saudi-driven foreign policy of Hillary and Barry at odds with the Russians and Chinese. Hillary and Barry are playing with World War III here, but they are too stupid to understand that.

27 posted on 12/01/2012 7:53:32 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

Or is that their intent....?


28 posted on 12/01/2012 10:33:06 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I don’t know, but no one in DC seems to be worried! Idiots.


29 posted on 12/01/2012 11:23:31 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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