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Ugandan president repents of personal, national sins
World Net Daily ^ | 11/24/2012 | Michael Carl

Posted on 11/25/2012 5:52:16 PM PST by BwanaNdege

Ugandan president repents of personal, national sins 'We confess idolatry, witchcraft, political hypocrisy, dishonesty, intrigue'

"The Ugandan newssite New Vision reports President Yoweri Museveni celebrated Uganda’s 50th anniversary of independence from Britain at the National Jubilee Prayers event by publicly repenting of his personal sin and the sins of the nation.

“I stand here today to close the evil past, and especially in the last 50 years of our national leadership history and at the threshold of a new dispensation in the life of this nation. I stand here on my own behalf and on behalf of my predecessors to repent. We ask for your forgiveness,” Museveni prayed.

“We confess these sins, which have greatly hampered our national cohesion and delayed our political, social and economic transformation. We confess sins of idolatry and witchcraft which are rampant in our land. We confess sins of shedding innocent blood, sins of political hypocrisy, dishonesty, intrigue and betrayal,” Museveni said."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: repentence; uganda; ugandarepents
Hey Uganda, can we swap our "African" president for yours?
1 posted on 11/25/2012 5:52:24 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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2 posted on 11/25/2012 5:59:34 PM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: BwanaNdege

What a powerful piece.....that, of course, will be roundly ignored by the Western media.

At the end of the article:

“He quoted British 17th century statesman Edmund Burke, who said, “The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Daubenmire said that in America, “good men have yielded power to evil men.”

“Evil rules when evil men make the rules,” he said.”


3 posted on 11/25/2012 5:59:49 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: BwanaNdege

Wow. Maybe this will catch on?

We could use a president who is able to admit that he and our nation needs to repent.

Let’s get this guy over here for a speaking tour.


4 posted on 11/25/2012 5:59:59 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Good grief! They’d run Barack Obama out of their country on a rail.


5 posted on 11/25/2012 6:01:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: garjog

I’d be proud if I carried a Uganda passport.


6 posted on 11/25/2012 6:05:11 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: BwanaNdege

Don’t forget to vote at the end of the article.


Should a president offer public prayers of repentance for his nation’s sins?

Of course not! There’s no god, so the prayer is a total waste of time
No, “sin” doesn’t exist – it’s just a cultural construct created by society’s elites to psychologically repress everyone else
No, a president is elected to exercise political, not spiritual, authority
No, with so many religions and a wide range of belief and unbelief among citizens, such a prayer can only cause offense
No, prayer is a personal matter
No, each of us must repent for our own sins – no one else can do it for us
No, public exercise of religion has a way of becoming a hypocritical display to get noticed by others and not a sincere appeal to God
It couldn’t hurt
Yes, but if most political leaders were truly repentant, they’d have to resign after confessing their own sins
Yes, but I don’t see it happening – today’s leaders are getting elected by validating sin, not condemning it
Yes, a leader who is repentant before God is far less likely to be a proud, arrogant tyrant
Yes, the Bible says a ruler’s authority is given by God so we may live quiet, peaceable lives – when sin disrupts that, the ruler is answerable to God
Yes. God is real, sin is real, it’s consequences are destroying us and repentence is our only hope – any “leader” worth the name should be eager to pray
Yes. We’ve seen how God judges us when our leaders are wicked – perhaps he will bless us if our leaders repent and acknowledge Him
Other

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7 posted on 11/25/2012 6:07:31 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: BwanaNdege

Don’t forget to vote at the end of the article.


Should a president offer public prayers of repentance for his nation’s sins?

Of course not! There’s no god, so the prayer is a total waste of time
No, “sin” doesn’t exist – it’s just a cultural construct created by society’s elites to psychologically repress everyone else
No, a president is elected to exercise political, not spiritual, authority
No, with so many religions and a wide range of belief and unbelief among citizens, such a prayer can only cause offense
No, prayer is a personal matter
No, each of us must repent for our own sins – no one else can do it for us
No, public exercise of religion has a way of becoming a hypocritical display to get noticed by others and not a sincere appeal to God
It couldn’t hurt
Yes, but if most political leaders were truly repentant, they’d have to resign after confessing their own sins
Yes, but I don’t see it happening – today’s leaders are getting elected by validating sin, not condemning it
Yes, a leader who is repentant before God is far less likely to be a proud, arrogant tyrant
Yes, the Bible says a ruler’s authority is given by God so we may live quiet, peaceable lives – when sin disrupts that, the ruler is answerable to God
Yes. God is real, sin is real, it’s consequences are destroying us and repentence is our only hope – any “leader” worth the name should be eager to pray
Yes. We’ve seen how God judges us when our leaders are wicked – perhaps he will bless us if our leaders repent and acknowledge Him
Other

View Results


8 posted on 11/25/2012 6:07:42 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: BwanaNdege

Homosexual activist groups have criticized the government of Uganda and Museveni for passing laws criminalizing homosexual behavior. A current bill before the Ugandan Parliament increases the jail sentences for homosexual acts and includes criminal penalties for those who encourage or promote homosexuality.

The bill had included the death penalty for those who commit multiple acts of homosexual behavior, but the provision has been removed, BBC News reports.


They took out the part that would stop homo activists.


9 posted on 11/25/2012 6:12:14 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: garjog

I hope that Christianity begins growing again soon. What good has the utter rejection of it done for places like the UK and Sweden?

Despite the fact that the late 19th and early 20th century was plagued by wars and genocide... I would love to have lived in that time, when what was evil was clear, and we did battle with more than just sanctions and stern letters from the UN. I think it was a prouder time to be American. Now it just feels crappy. What the hell happened to the world?


10 posted on 11/25/2012 6:13:41 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: BwanaNdege

So all that stuff is gone away now?


11 posted on 11/25/2012 6:14:06 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: rovenstinez

My daughter (26) has been on two mission trips to Uganda. They have some wonderful Christians there. She spent her time in a small village (Homia) and some of them had never seen white people. The people were very friendly and my daughter’s group even baptized some of them in a hotel swimming pool in another town. They were so excited. Their “church” was a thatched roof over a concrete slab and I would venture to say their worship was more sincere than in some of our most beautiful stained-glass megachurches. I believe God will bless their country. My daughter and I are friends on FB with some of those she met while there. They are very dedicated in their beliefs and love learning. Of course, islam is gaining a foothold as well. Islam never rests.


12 posted on 11/25/2012 6:14:23 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: BwanaNdege

No more ubangi in Uganda?!?!?!?


13 posted on 11/25/2012 6:25:40 PM PST by TRY ONE (Obummer: The economy sucks......might as well go play golf)
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To: BwanaNdege
Ugandan president repents of personal, national sins

Now, if only we could get our Kenyan "president" to do the same.

14 posted on 11/25/2012 6:29:33 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Islam never rests.

That's because Satan never rests.

On a more hopeful note, the fact that this used to be Idi Amin's Uganda gives hope for the rise of an America that will look back and consider Barack Obama's America to be a very bad memory.

15 posted on 11/25/2012 6:30:58 PM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Tonytitan

That would be wonderful. America will need a lot of fixing after Obama is gone.


16 posted on 11/25/2012 6:33:36 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Our Parish is “twinned” with a parish in Uganda. We receive regular visits from their representatives and several of our Parishioners and 2 of our Priests have visited St. Paul’s. We have built them a high school, and have donated vestments and altar accoutrements to their priests. We’ve also bought pigs and sewing machines for people in the village who have had no other means of support. We sell goods that they make in our gift shop.

They are wonderful people and good Christians.


17 posted on 11/25/2012 6:34:59 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: BwanaNdege
Except they just passed a bill calling for the death penalty for some gays. Life imprisonment for most others. Prison time if you know someone is gay and don't report it within 24 hours. And more fun stuff.

Killing them for being gay doesn't work for me, and I am pretty sure Christ would be unhappy about it as well.

18 posted on 11/25/2012 6:35:43 PM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

A friend of mine has traveled to Uganda on missionary work on several occasions...wonderful people. This is great news...


19 posted on 11/25/2012 6:38:14 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: rovenstinez
Would you really? I am disgusted by these people and their current behavior. This is not a kind of Christianity that I ever want to even rub elbows with...pretty sure Christ told us to love our enemies, not kill and torture them.

In April 2009, a local Ugandan newspaper printed the names of suspected homosexuals, another printed tips on how to identify gays for the general public,[46] and, in October 2010, another named Rolling Stone (unaffiliated with the American Rolling Stone) published a story featuring a list of the nation's 100 "top" gays and lesbians with their photos and addresses. Next to the list was a yellow strip with the words "hang them"

Do you not understand that tolerating this kind of behavior toward anyone is dangerous for all of us? Uganda is leaning toward a serious form of fascism we have seen before. They say the bill is so wide open to interpretation that it could be used in personal disputes between heterosexuals. Witch hunts like this one are very sad and dangerous.

20 posted on 11/25/2012 6:51:28 PM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: RightOnline
And evil is exactly what I believe is taking hold in Uganda.

The anti-gay bill includes many related offenses, such as renting or doing business with anyone gay, all kind of ambiguous descriptions of touching someone that have made a lot of Ugandans very fearful.

In short under this bill anyone could be arrested for many things. People are required under threat of imprisonment to report their friends or family members. Nothing Christlike about this behavior, nope.

It reminds me of other times in other places where it began with one group for one reason and soon moved on...evil is like that.

21 posted on 11/25/2012 6:58:14 PM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

What’s the water like? How is public health situation, generally?


22 posted on 11/25/2012 7:08:50 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: BwanaNdege

A far cry from the Uganda of Idi Admin Dada’s days !


23 posted on 11/25/2012 7:21:35 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: CORedneck

Not for long. Watch closely...


24 posted on 11/25/2012 7:30:07 PM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: RightOnline

I was watching CNN the other day and it pissed me off they were Using Uganda as an example of “Christianities Intolerance towards gays” Completely ignoring the other 99% of countries that are Muslim and who kill Homosexuals!!!

Just so they could count coup against on Christianity!!!!!

So mad i almost punched the TV.


25 posted on 11/25/2012 8:23:40 PM PST by GraceG
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To: MarMema
Killing them for being gay doesn't work for me,...

There is no such thing as 'being gay'....there is only the physical act of sex which can be referred to as homosexual sex if it is engaged in by two members of the same sex. For that matter, there is also no such thing that can be proven to be homosexuality as identified as pertaining to some sort of natural condition or state of the human mind...there is only human sexuality which is a characteristic that all mankind has been given.... however, sexuality can manifest itself as Godly approved sexual behaviour or perverted sexual behaviour abhored by God.

26 posted on 11/25/2012 9:05:43 PM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: MarMema

It sounds like an overreaction to the gay craze in the rest of the world, which they don’t want worming its way into their society. I can’t blame the end even if the means can be blamed. And it’s sadly not uncommon for highly Christianized societies to get most of the gospel right but then really muff it badly in some small area. Troubles that come from over-mixing the church with the government are nothing new, of course....


27 posted on 11/26/2012 12:33:44 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: MarMema

Well at best, they have yet another repentance coming. I only hope in abandoning the insane aspects of the witch hunt, it doesn’t literally capitulate to the rest of the world’s gay craze.


28 posted on 11/26/2012 12:36:21 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: MarMema
Killing them for being gay doesn't work for me, and I am pretty sure Christ would be unhappy about it as well.

If country X had a 25% AIDS rate coming solely from, say, carnal acts involving very tall people, and the folks who engage in such acts insist that they are interested in very tall people, and lots if them, and might also engage in normal relations with an unknowing or bullied spuse. You might put a restriction with such a penalty in your land, unless you really wanted half your population sick and dying.

Uganda had the highest rate of AIDS in all of Africa, which had the highest in the world. Needles are not the problem, buggery (of all combinations) is the problem. It is easiest to legislate against the homosexual type.
29 posted on 11/26/2012 3:53:06 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: ConservativeDude

Her visits were several years ago and the water wasn’t good, but that may have changed. They grow most of their own food and raise animals for food. I remember I wrote to several seed companies asking for donations of seeds for them to bring. The only company that responded was Burpee and they sent us a lot. They now grow eggplant in the village, something they had never seen before. They even included flower seeds. It was very nice of them. No responses from several other companies.

My daughter also brought home some very nice wood carvings people had done. If Uganda can get an honest government, they have a bright future. My daughter told me there is a lot of local corruption - pay officials to get permits, etc. Kind of like Chicago, I guess. Hopefully that will improve.


30 posted on 11/26/2012 5:54:20 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I looked at some websites for a few seminaries in the country. Much work being done, but...much work to be done, also. Thanks for that info.


31 posted on 11/26/2012 7:26:41 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

You are welcome. I have a special place in my heart for Uganda.


32 posted on 11/26/2012 7:35:55 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: MarMema

“Killing them for being gay doesn’t work for me, and I am pretty sure Christ would be unhappy about it as well.”

Leviticus 20:13
If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Romans 1:26-27
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

However, there is forgiveness after repentance and rejection of homosexuality.


33 posted on 11/26/2012 8:19:18 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: CORedneck

Or either of Milton Obote’s regimes!


34 posted on 11/26/2012 6:59:24 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: BwanaNdege
Hope you don't eat shrimp. Or shave.

Good luck with scraping through Leviticus. You may want to read it entirely.

35 posted on 11/27/2012 9:47:03 PM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Ever wear clothes made of more than one fabric?


36 posted on 11/27/2012 9:48:28 PM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Had.

There has been considerable interest in understanding what may have led to Uganda's dramatic decline in HIV prevalence, one of the world's earliest and most compelling AIDS prevention successes.

The above from 2006. Not related to the disgusting evil of persecution and more they are currently promoting.

In fact, once all medical aid and care is denied to those with HIV, no matter what their sexual preference, they will be afraid to seek help - and now that Uganda has thrown out many of the NGOs considered to have been partly responsible for this success - HIV will increase.

It's just evil and prelest, by the father of all evil and old as time. They can try to pass it off as Christianity but I am amazed anyone believes it.

37 posted on 11/27/2012 10:07:53 PM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: MarMema
In the 1980s, more than 30% of Ugandan residents had HIV; this had fallen to 6.4% by the end of 2008, the most effective national response to AIDS of any African country.[63] This is supported by the findings of a 2006 study that modern contraceptive use in Uganda is low. [ . . .]In 2009, the Ugandan parliament considered an Anti-Homosexuality Bill which would have broadened the criminalisation of homosexuality by introducing the death penalty for people who have previous convictions, or are HIV-positive, and engage in same-sex sexual acts.

From Wikipedia entry on Uganda

Based on the above, the actual law is designed to focus on cutting the spread of the disease. In any event, homosexual behavior and sodomy in general are filthy, immoral and unhealthy acts. Prophylactics alone, even if they were used so much, would not put much of a dent in spread of the disease because the breakage rate when used in that manner is so high (30-50%).

If the law is enforced in such a way that a mere appearance of effeminacy or lewdness gets the penalty, then that would be an issue. Uganda is known for corruption, and the president's contrition won't change the whole society.

But no, criminalization of sodomy, something that was upheld by SCOTUS as recently as the '80s, before O'Connor reversed herself, is the normal way for civilized countries, at least in western civilization. The severity of the penalty would vary depending on circumstances, in the same way that stealing a man's horse was once a hanging offense in certain parts of this country for a long time. Uganda's death penalty for sodomy can easily be justified on a natural law level given the circumstances.
38 posted on 11/28/2012 3:43:23 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: MarMema

“Because of this, God gave them over...”

YMMV.


39 posted on 11/28/2012 8:13:58 PM PST by TArcher
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To: Dr. Sivana

There are many immoral acts. Let God judge them. Our mission is to love sinners, not persecute them.


40 posted on 12/05/2012 11:57:07 AM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: BwanaNdege

And for those repulsed by the notion of visiting World Net Daily, here’s more of what he said:

“Forgive us of sins of pride, tribalism and sectarianism; sins of laziness, indifference and irresponsibility; sins of corruption and bribery that have eroded our national resources; sins of sexual immorality, drunkenness and debauchery; sins of unforgiveness, bitterness, hatred and revenge; sins of injustice, oppression and exploitation; sins of rebellion, insubordination, strife and conflict,” Museveni prayed.

Next, the president dedicated Uganda to God.

“We want to dedicate this nation to you so that you will be our God and guide. We want Uganda to be known as a nation that fears God and as a nation whose foundations are firmly rooted in righteousness and justice to fulfill what the Bible says in Psalm 33:12: Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. A people you have chosen as your own,” Museveni prayed.


41 posted on 12/05/2012 12:03:20 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: MarMema
There are many immoral acts. Let God judge them. Our mission is to love sinners, not persecute them.

Actually, the issue is PRO-secution, not PER-secution. The bulk of our laws judge immoral acts CONSTANTLY. Ultimately, all laws, and their enforcement, are about morality.
42 posted on 12/05/2012 12:14:19 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: MarMema
There are many immoral acts. Let God judge them. Our mission is to love sinners, not persecute them.

Actually, the issue is PRO-secution, not PER-secution. The bulk of our laws judge immoral acts CONSTANTLY. Ultimately, all laws, and their enforcement, are about morality.
43 posted on 12/05/2012 12:14:40 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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