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Jeb Bush in 2016? Not Too Early for Chatter
New York Times ^ | Nov 25 2012 | JIM RUTENBERG and JEFF ZELENY

Posted on 11/23/2012 5:16:22 PM PST by WilliamIII

CORAL GABLES, Fla. — Now that the Obama and Romney campaigns have closed their headquarters in Chicago and Boston, the attention of the political world is shifting to an office suite tucked behind the colonnades of the Biltmore Hotel complex here.

The suite is where former Gov. Jeb Bush manages his consulting business, his education foundation and, now, the (very) early decision-making process for a possible presidential run in 2016.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: newyorkslimes; stayoutdabushes
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To: Lancey Howard

As I told my friend on November 7th.. I would not vote for Jeb Bush if he were the Messiah. We got into a huge fight and needless to say she is no longer my friend,


101 posted on 11/23/2012 6:22:34 PM PST by Hildy (hen the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: WilliamIII

Hell to the no.


102 posted on 11/23/2012 6:27:59 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: WilliamIII

Forget it, but then I say this about all of them right about now. I’m in no mood and I’m highly suspicious of anyone willing to jump into this viper pit. Why would they want to do it after observing what happened to all the Republicans in the primaries and then Romney in the general? FORGET IT!!!


103 posted on 11/23/2012 6:30:42 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: WilliamIII

not interested


104 posted on 11/23/2012 6:31:37 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Army Air Corps

Actually, there is such a fellow: about 8 years ago my son did a highschool mini camp to experience the US military. A descendent, also named Calvin Coolidge was in charge.Really nice guy.


105 posted on 11/23/2012 6:31:37 PM PST by Bainbridge
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To: WilliamIII

Gee the New York Times encouraging Jeb Bush to run. Seems like a trustworthy source for conservatives.


106 posted on 11/23/2012 6:35:04 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: tumblindice

Sums up my reaction. Screw RINO Jeb!


107 posted on 11/23/2012 6:39:49 PM PST by RB156
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To: Arthurio

There are much much much mucho mucho mucho better Latino candidistas than this sorry arse RINO.

Par examplar, Marcosio Rubirubiosio!

Siempre conservatorre mi amigo.


108 posted on 11/23/2012 6:39:53 PM PST by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: WilliamIII

Never. He let Terri Schiavo be assassinated in his state.


109 posted on 11/23/2012 6:40:25 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
OK my friends. He is from Florida-that’s good. He has a Mexican wife and speaks Spanish-that’s better. Third-his family has a history of winning the WH.

Not a single word about policy.

110 posted on 11/23/2012 6:40:39 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: WilliamIII

Enough of this RINO crap. For the 2016 GOP candidate, I nominate the M134 Minigun.


111 posted on 11/23/2012 6:41:16 PM PST by gotribe
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To: Bainbridge

I would take a descendant of Silent Cal over a Dynasty.


112 posted on 11/23/2012 6:42:39 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
This gives their family incredible abilities to strategically plan, both for political ascension and in international affairs.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but politicians are not the "idea" people.

They're just a) a public face and b) they negotiate vote deals with other politicians (I like to call that horse-trading).

The idea people are not elected by anyone; they're lobbyists, advocacy "groups", academia; so-called thought-leaders. There are literally thousands of these organizations, they transcend national boundaries. And the organizations pursue agendas across every incarnation of Congress and every President.

For example, foreign policy:

www.cfr.org is one of the premier institutions that come up with ideas.

Reagan's "peace through strength": take a look at the American Security Council Foundation:

http://www.ascfusa.org/content_pages/view/history-of-peace-through-strength

Is there any way to counter that kind of influence ?

I posted an idea here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2960343/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2960965/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2961730/posts

I have over 50 people interested so far - please let me know if you'd like to be on the list.
113 posted on 11/23/2012 6:43:36 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: ryderann

Indeed.

This is the Rhino in the living room that everybody is ignoring.


114 posted on 11/23/2012 6:48:59 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Repubs will run a young half black/half Latino transvestite
that will travel around throwing out condoms and ebt cards, cry on Oprah to show they care. Thats what it looks like to me.


115 posted on 11/23/2012 6:48:59 PM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: WilliamIII

As Jesse Jackson said, “Keep out, the Bushes”. Go away, especially the liberal, one world, open border CONSERVATIVE ? GO AWAY BUSH !


116 posted on 11/23/2012 6:49:36 PM PST by Pedrobud
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To: TomGuy

In a way Jeb running could be a good thing. Why? Because when the ventual nominee beats him in the primary they can turn to the country and credibly say they’re not just a repeat of W, not just another Bush. That in fact, they took on and defeated the Bushes and they’re ready to move forward with something new.

the same thing helped Obama in 2008. By beating the Clintons he credibly presented himself as something new and not just a rehash of the 90s.

I hope Jeb does run because his defeat will finally let the GOP put the Bushes behind them and move forward with something new.


117 posted on 11/23/2012 6:53:24 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: WilliamIII

118 posted on 11/23/2012 6:53:49 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

True, they have a history of winning the WH. They also have a history of then screwing things up so bad that the Dems win 2 more terms. Also have a history of leading the country into huge recessions that ruin the GOP for years to come. Also have a history of appointing “unknowns” to the SC who end up betraying conservatives in the worst way possible. See Souter being the decisive vote upholding Roe v Wade and Roberts being the decisive vote upholding Obamacare/

I’ll pass


119 posted on 11/23/2012 7:01:38 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: WilliamIII

The question for us FReepers is whether or not FR will have a JebBushTruthfile, JimRob will loudly proclaim that he’d never endorse such a RINO, and then after he gets the nomination, FR/JimRob endorses the CINO.


120 posted on 11/23/2012 7:03:27 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: WilliamIII

What does anyone see in Jeb Bush that makes them think he could turn this country around? I just don’t see that in him. I saw it in Mitt Romney and to me I think Romney would be much better and have a much better chance of pulling this country out of it’s death spiral. He is a proven business and financial leader. He was a successful governor of a state that led the nation in education. He balanced his budgets and worked across the isle to get things done. Jeb Bush’s Florida on the other hand, still can’t carry out elections in an orderly and legal way without having lawsuits over missing ballot boxes and 100+ turnout in various counties. Florida’s election system and it’s personnel are disgraces. Jeb Bush??? That doesn’t even get my engine to lukewarm. Someone better has to emerge and maybe Romney will give it another go, or Sarah Palin, etc.. Someone must rise to the challenge.


121 posted on 11/23/2012 7:09:04 PM PST by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: WilliamIII

Versus Hilary Clinton.

To be followed by George P. Bush versus Chelsea Clinton.

To be followed by Michelle Obama versus some relative of the Bushes.

No thank you to Jeb.


122 posted on 11/23/2012 7:16:11 PM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: Arthurio

I agree with you. Hispanics love Jeb. And that might be enough to win all those battleground states, especially Florida.


123 posted on 11/23/2012 7:18:52 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: WilliamIII

RINO File.

BTW, if Jebbie B. runs for POTUS and then loses, IT WILL TRULY BE ‘BUSH’S FAULT.’


124 posted on 11/23/2012 7:22:13 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: WilliamIII

The GOP-e just doesn’t want my vote.


125 posted on 11/23/2012 7:24:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Pedrobud

Hispanics could care less about Jeb or little Jorge. They are and ever will be democrats.

“Republican bigwigs announce the anointing of Jeb Bush, and CBS now projects Hillary Clinton (or insert any democrat name) as the winner of the 2016 election!”

Stay out da Bushes!!


126 posted on 11/23/2012 7:29:01 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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We really don't have a lot of time to prepare for 2016.

Two major hurdles:
  1. restructure the GOP
  2. control our narrative by taking control of how it's disseminated.

127 posted on 11/23/2012 7:30:30 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: WilliamIII

Hey may want to check out cryogenics .
It’s gonna be at least 100 years before he has a chance.


128 posted on 11/23/2012 7:44:15 PM PST by Morris70
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To: GeronL
Why not? They chose the last one.
129 posted on 11/23/2012 7:58:07 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Nuc 1.1

That is true, actually the last 2!!


130 posted on 11/23/2012 8:02:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: WilliamIII

The smoke-filled room has moved to semi-secret meetings of money men, four years before the election. The primaries are only for show.

We’re doomed.


131 posted on 11/23/2012 8:03:34 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: WilliamIII

Under no circumstance will I vote for Jeb Bush, or any other Bush. No royal families. Sorry, you Bush’s got your share already.


132 posted on 11/23/2012 8:07:04 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: WilliamIII

Jeb bush refused to save the life of Terri Schiavo. I will never forget.

All he did was ask the judge to stop the murder. When the judge refused, Jeb curled up on the floor and sucked his thumb.


133 posted on 11/23/2012 8:08:48 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: WilliamIII

134 posted on 11/23/2012 8:16:17 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: WilliamIII
The only ones dumb enough to vote for another Bush would be the RINO's. I'll bet the media would love him as the candidate, though.
135 posted on 11/23/2012 8:19:11 PM PST by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I’m interested in the idea, though I have to be honest I’m not sure how much help I could be.


136 posted on 11/23/2012 8:32:38 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GeronL
INDEED! Well, the fools voted but the NYT wanted them.
137 posted on 11/23/2012 8:34:40 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Army Air Corps
How about some progeny of Calvin Coolidge?

I think I'd be far closer to silent Cal than most -- the sad thing is that people are so dumbed-down/hyped-up they can't think straight on this simple question: what is the legitimate role of federal government as defined by the Constitution? (i.e. "what is the federal government authorized?")
{Look at how many people think the President can "create"/"destroy" jobs; or make laws; or how many think "the Constitution is what the Supreme Court says it is"; or how many people think that inflation is caused by companies; or how many people think that we have a national constitution?}

138 posted on 11/23/2012 8:39:20 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: WilliamIII

No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No!


139 posted on 11/23/2012 8:46:28 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: WilliamIII

Never Ever will I vote for a Bush. We don’t want a royal family. The Kennedy family was enough.


140 posted on 11/23/2012 8:49:30 PM PST by Ramonne
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To: GeronL
Anybody want the NY TIMES choosing your candidate??

Unless the Repubs change their nomination process, the liberal media will greatly influence their candidate selection.

141 posted on 11/23/2012 8:54:15 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: WilliamIII

No, no a thousand, million, BILLION times NO.


142 posted on 11/23/2012 9:07:04 PM PST by jocon307
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To: WilliamIII
Uh, no thanks. I'm already off the GOP reservation. Jeb Bush would make me a permanent lost soul in search of a party.


143 posted on 11/23/2012 9:14:33 PM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Ramonne

Do you realize that the last time the winning Republican ticket did not include Nixon or a Bush was when H.Hoover won in 1933?
I find that to be an astonishing fact and struggle to come up with an explanation for it. I would say it proves that only hard right wingers can win but the Bushes were really RINOS with that “kinder and gentler conservatism” that brought tax hikes and out of control spending, between the two of course.


144 posted on 11/23/2012 9:15:23 PM PST by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: JerseyDvl

1928, not 1933.


145 posted on 11/23/2012 9:16:50 PM PST by Publius (Will comply with 10-289 for food.)
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To: WilliamIII

Maybe he could takd his old lady and run for President of Mexico!!!

He should leave and quit poluting the US!


146 posted on 11/23/2012 9:19:09 PM PST by dalereed
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, I fell for some of the Romney as the candidate who can best win stuff because I figured that Romney would win over middle of the road voters in swing states.

But Romney got completely defined as an old rich and out of touch guy quickly. So the middle took the young, hip Obama. And I also think the middle has moved left on social issues.

Whoever we nominate in 2016, I want them to be under the age of 48. I think our only chance is to find a younger, articulate person that will appeal to a new generation. Certainly not Jeb.


147 posted on 11/23/2012 9:23:14 PM PST by SteveAustin
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To: OneWingedShark

Frankly, I think Coolidge is grossly underrated.


148 posted on 11/23/2012 9:29:57 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: WilliamIII

Reading through the replies on this thread, I have only this observation:

Four years ago, we were saying the same things about Mitt Romney. And in the end, most of those who were doing the big talking surrendered.

Voting for the “R” was more important than conservatism. Will we learn, or will we never leave the Grand Old Plantation?


149 posted on 11/23/2012 9:34:03 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Publius

My apology for the error and thank you for the correction. Sure would be good to get that 88(will be) year old monkey off our backs in 2016.
But if we have to win with a Bush I will take it.The Repubs are sooooo lost right now.


150 posted on 11/23/2012 9:46:57 PM PST by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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