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Lance Armstrong Cheated to Win. Why is that Wrong?
Reason.com ^ | 17 Nov 2010 | Nick Gillespie

Posted on 11/20/2012 12:11:09 PM PST by Notary Sojac

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To: Notary Sojac

Lance should never had himself photographed with Geroge Bush on a bike ride. Big mistake!


21 posted on 11/20/2012 12:39:38 PM PST by classified
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To: Notary Sojac

Did anyone seriously believe that Lance Armstrong could recover from cancer and get back into competition shape without some performance enhancing drugs? I don’t think that anyone would be dumb enough to believe that was possible. Frankly, with or without the performance enhancing drugs, I give Armstrong an awful lot of credit for his accomplishments of beating cancer and returning to competition.


22 posted on 11/20/2012 12:39:49 PM PST by Eva
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To: Notary Sojac
I don't care.

Rules against performance enhancers are idiotic. No one wants to see some seedy looking grain-eater pushing their yogurt fueled ass up a mountain in lackadaisical time spans.

No. We want to see the inhuman. We want that experience pushed to the edge and beyond and to have someone come back and tell us what it was like...

Striving to be more than human is older than Herakles.

Set up a parallel line of sports for those willing to push their bodies to destruction for glory and fame. Mere-humes can compete against other Mere-humes. Morethans can compete against Morethans... It'd be interesting to see which one garners more viewership and ad revenue.

23 posted on 11/20/2012 12:48:18 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Red Badger

The biking commission or whatever they’re called in accordance with their own rules and regulations ruled against Armstrong.

Just as we’re supposed to accept and respect the ruling of the OJ jury, no matter how ignorant and stupid they were, shouldn’t we accept and respect the biking commission’s ruling?


24 posted on 11/20/2012 12:48:50 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Red Badger

I can’t answer about a third party, but he’s been busted a few times.

If you’re interested in Armstrong, confused, and want to get to the bottom of it, read Hamilton’s book.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Secret-Race-Cover-ups-Winning/dp/0345530411/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353444271&sr=8-1&keywords=secret+race


25 posted on 11/20/2012 12:49:15 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: getarope

The most damning evidence was collected, and published, by Americans. So we remain superior to the French, in that regard.


26 posted on 11/20/2012 12:55:08 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Vision

“Nope. You’re not familiar with this. Armstrong is guilty as hell and there’s all the evidence in the world.”

I got the impression that he was above repproach for years because he was some sort of “American Hero”, but now that Heil Hussein declared war on America, he had to go.

Nevertheless, for people to proclaim Armstrong’s innocence because no one ever found a syringe or a positive test result would be like expecting that a murderer can’t be convicted of a murder if the body was never found.


27 posted on 11/20/2012 12:56:37 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

“Just as we’re supposed to accept and respect the ruling of the OJ jury, no matter how ignorant and stupid they were, shouldn’t we accept and respect the biking commission’s ruling?”

Apparently the answer is “NO” for those who really, REALLY want to believe.

How little many of us differ from leftist Hussein Head Commie freaks....


28 posted on 11/20/2012 1:03:46 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Notary Sojac
...there were whispers for years that he was dirtier than a bum’s ass.

...and not a word about the cyclists who racked up more individual stage wins in almost all of Armstrong's TDF wins...

In fact, despite all of Armstrong's TDF appearances and wins, he's not even in the top 25 of individual stage winners.

This was a government financed witch hunt and the government finally won......

Who's he next target?

29 posted on 11/20/2012 1:07:22 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Notary Sojac

My nomination for the shortest list in the world:

1. Tour de France cyclists who never doped.


30 posted on 11/20/2012 1:22:31 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Vision
Armstrong is guilty as hell

And who else in the top 10 riders during that time frame were guilty also but were never invesigated by our government?

Or is this just a domestic issue?

31 posted on 11/20/2012 1:25:26 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: utahagen
He could have admitted years ago that he and almost every other cyclist used drugs,

Correction needed, he has never admitted to using drugs......

If you wish to examine Armstrong's record, then how many of the top 20 stage winners of the TDF (of which Armstrong was not a member of) were given the same government scrutiny?

32 posted on 11/20/2012 1:32:19 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Oh, this is a European centric issue; doping is huge there and at times rarely enforced. To be competitive clean American riders had to dope to keep their bodies from breaking down.

If you list the 10 ten I can tell you. In terms of American riders Hincapie is self adamantly guiltily.
33 posted on 11/20/2012 1:37:13 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Hot Tabasco

Pols cheat the public everyday.


34 posted on 11/20/2012 1:38:22 PM PST by ully2
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To: Eva
Did anyone seriously believe that Lance Armstrong could recover from cancer and get back into competition shape without some performance enhancing drugs?

Was Armstrong really the drug induced superman you are making him out to be? If so, then please tell me how he was only able to accumulate between only one and three stage wins during each TDF while numerous Europeans scored more........

35 posted on 11/20/2012 1:40:50 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Winning at all after cancer is winning big.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 1:54:25 PM PST by Eva
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To: SeaHawkFan

My nomination for the shortest list in the world:

1. Tour de France cyclists who never doped.


So true. The problem the tour had with the stripping of lances titles is that the runners up in most years had been convicted of drugs usage....

Sad state for a sport that demands the ultimate in endurance/tactics/guts....

To ride 2000+miles over a course of weeks, with mountains, time trials thrown
in is daunting.

If you have ever ridden 50 miles at a leisurely pace you know of what I speak....

Not condoning doping etc.... just respecting the challenge they face


37 posted on 11/20/2012 1:55:57 PM PST by patriotspride
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To: Notary Sojac

I think that the events of this last election, i.e., the extreme fraud by the democrats, has lowered the bar for any type of cheating. If Obama gets the big prize as the result of cheating, why not Lance? At least he has some redeeming social value via his work with cancer. Obama has never done anything for anyone except his own little blue-lipped self.

(Not condoning Lance; just making a point as devil’s advocate.)


38 posted on 11/20/2012 2:04:55 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: patriotspride

The deliberate government driven destruction of Armstrong does more to harm the charities that he has supported and that have endorsed him than will ever do to make the sport of cycling drug free.........


39 posted on 11/20/2012 2:09:30 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Notary Sojac

Who cares how fast some guy can ride a bicycle? You want them to quit cheating? Quit watching. You don’t see a lot of cheating where there’s no money involved. I can watch the neighbor kid ride his bike. If you like watching cheaters, well, then, that’s different than watching bicycle racing. Then you reward the cheaters. Ohhh........


40 posted on 11/20/2012 2:31:39 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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