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ABC News: Hey, This Doctor Shortage Could "Crash" Obamacare
Townhall ^ | 11/15/2012 | Guy Benson

Posted on 11/15/2012 8:43:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Why not accept more applicants to Medical School?

That will probably be the answer, tuition's subsidized by the tax payer no doubt.

Problem is, that will lead to many sub standard doctors.

JMO.

81 posted on 11/15/2012 9:39:48 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: SeekAndFind

When the doctor shortage gets really bad - and it will - dems will solve the ‘problem’ by lowing standards for medical personalel...

“Job Training Programs’ those spread the wealth around boondoggles for inner city neighborhoods will now be the the perferred training centers for medical assistants. Your new ‘doctor’ will by the guy who couldn’t find a job because his rap sheet was too long...


82 posted on 11/15/2012 9:40:05 AM PST by GOPJ (Petraeus confession: like something from a 'Soviet purge trial'....)
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To: Tau Food

“The roles of nurse pracitioners and physicians assistants will expand to include treatment of most routine illnesses and injuries. “

That is, until they can no longer to pay malparactice. The system gamers will find this out in a NY minute.


83 posted on 11/15/2012 9:41:11 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: SeekAndFind
When the doctor shortage gets really bad - and it will - dems will solve the ‘problem’ by lowing standards for medical personnel...

“Job Training Programs’ those 'spread the wealth around boondoggles' for inner city neighborhoods will now be the the preferred training centers for medical assistants. Your new ‘doctor’ will be the guy who couldn't find a job because his rap sheet was too long...

84 posted on 11/15/2012 9:41:16 AM PST by GOPJ (Petraeus confession: like something from a 'Soviet purge trial'....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Adding primary care doctors and physicians extenders (PAs, NPs)at the expense of specialists will drastically reduce quality. All the major advances in life expectency and QOL are via speciality care. PCPs, NPs and PAs can’t give chemo, put in hips or coronary stents.
This will get very ugly, guaranteed.


85 posted on 11/15/2012 9:41:59 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: southernindymom
Not sorry that sounds like I’m racist, I’m not, just tired of the crap.

What's the point if you can't even understand what they're saying?

86 posted on 11/15/2012 9:42:57 AM PST by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: strongbow
This is the answer to the INTENDED consequence of doctor shortages.

A sick, stupid, hungry population is easier to control...

87 posted on 11/15/2012 9:44:09 AM PST by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Perhaps we will follow the British model and avert the shortage by replacing them with 26 year old middle eastern “surgeons” like the ones who bombed Glasgow International Airport in 2007

We can't be far off from incorporating "alternative" medicines...that's why the use of leeches and even maggots, has been in the news lately. A blood-letting, anyone?

88 posted on 11/15/2012 9:44:13 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: COBOL2Java

CRNA’s have a great job and make a very nice living.

Most people do not even know that CRNA’s do most of the anesthesia in this country (under the direction of an anesthesiologist).


89 posted on 11/15/2012 9:46:45 AM PST by Clarence
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To: jsanders2001; Scoutmaster
Dems will solve the ‘problem’ by lowing standards for medical personnel...

“Job Training Programs’ those spread the wealth around boondoggles for inner city neighborhoods will now be the the preferred training centers for medical assistants. Your new ‘doctor’ will be the guy who couldn't find a job because his rap sheet was too long...

The next group to be thrown under the bus will be trial lawyers. Face it, poorly trained government workers will make 'mistakes' and if you or a loved one are one of those 'mistakes' the gov. can't afford allowing YOU to sue.. So the good news is no one will have to worry about malpractice insurance...

90 posted on 11/15/2012 9:48:24 AM PST by GOPJ (Petraeus confession: like something from a 'Soviet purge trial'....)
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To: SeekAndFind
52% of Roman Catholics did not care about what their church stands for

The Church certainly doesn't stand for socialism, but you wouldn't know it if you listen to certain members of the hierarchy.

"Boston’s Cardinal O’Malley Batting for Obamacare"

http://angelqueen.org/2012/07/02/bostons-cardinal-omalley-batting-for-obama/

91 posted on 11/15/2012 9:50:07 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Pining_4_TX

“Get ready for your doctor to be named Mohammed or Patel.”

This is happening now. I took someone to ER last year and was greeted by MDs from Cameroon, Senegal, India, and Ireland. All seemed competent and everything went well, but some of them had unpronounceable (by me) names and all had accents, so many things got repeated.


92 posted on 11/15/2012 9:51:01 AM PST by DBrow
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To: SeekAndFind

Not only do they want to put insurance companies out of business, but they also want to restrict the number of doctors so they can control who becomes a doctor. Then they will set it up so doctors get a salary just a bit higher than a subway-sweeper job.
Just like in the Soviet Union.
Look it up.


93 posted on 11/15/2012 9:53:32 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: SeekAndFind

The big problem will be in Medicaid and Medicare. Both programs work by paying doctors directly for having treated someone. The problem is that reimbursements to doctors keep getting cut. At this point, when most doctors treat Medicaid patients, it is a charity case because they lose money. That’s why it is hard for Medicaid patients to even find a doctor who will treat them.

The result is that Medicaid patients get terrible medical care. The recent Univ VA study of surgical outcomes for Medicaid patients found that they were 97% more likely to die in surgery than privately insured patients. It also found they were 13% more likely to die in surgery than UNINSURED patients.

Most people don’t know this. But the Chief Medicare Actuary has projected the Medicare cuts that are in Obamacare. His estimates are that by 2019, Medicare doctors will be receiving LOWER reimbursements than Medicaid doctors. The inevitable result of this is the same, or worse, medical care for the elderly on Medicare than for the low-income on Medicaid. I have a friend on Medicare whose cardiologist has stopped treating him because of the Medicare cuts coming in Obamacare. He has been unable to find a replacement who is willing to treat him despite a six month search, despite an ongoing cardiology problem that is non-trivial.


94 posted on 11/15/2012 9:53:51 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: nutmeg

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95 posted on 11/15/2012 9:55:31 AM PST by nutmeg
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To: txrefugee

RE: The three docs in our family circle are closing their practices next year.

What on earth are they planning to do next?

Years of Medical training and then what?


96 posted on 11/15/2012 9:56:08 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Clarence

Don’t bank on a dental future. I’m a retired DDS who knows many grads with $200,000+ debt and no place to practice ‘decent’ dentistry. Many end up working in ‘dental mill’ clinics. I have personally steered many youth out of the Medical/Dental fields. Unless you have a strong humanitarian urge, stay away.


97 posted on 11/15/2012 9:56:30 AM PST by yadent
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To: SeekAndFind

What could possibly go wrong...

Dramatically increase the number of patients who will abuse the system, since they’ll be getting “free” medical “care.”

Don’t increase the number of doctors...

Watch the number of existing doctors drop, as new price controls are placed on what the doctors are allowed to charge for their services, while the price of the procedures go up, due to new taxes on medical devices and instruments.

Yup, what can go wrong?

Of course, Obama recently admitted that he really can’t handle 7th grade math...

Mark


98 posted on 11/15/2012 9:58:18 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: COBOL2Java

“The nomenklatura will always receive the best care from the best doctors and the best hospitals”

Maybe. But there will probably be a few doctors that cannot risk the temptation to make a ‘mistake’ on one of their political tormentors.

When Stalin had a stroke, the attending physician was afraid to lay a hand on him.


99 posted on 11/15/2012 10:01:57 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Yep. Texans might start feeling the other edge of the tort reform sword before long.


100 posted on 11/15/2012 10:05:30 AM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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