Skip to comments.Obama Readies His Revenge on the "Rich"
Posted on 11/14/2012 12:22:24 PM PST by Kaslin
RUSH: Now, Obama's meeting with the CEOs. This is being portrayed as Obama wanting to have dialogue. "He really wants to talk to these guys. He wants to learn from them. He wants to work together with them in order to come up with mutually agreeable policies, 'cause he's open to anything that will work." Ahem. Instead, what's gonna happen is Obama's bringing the guys in there.
He's speaking from a teleprompter and he's gonna read them the way world works. He's gonna tell them the way life is. He's gonna tell 'em what their future is. He's gonna let 'em say whatever they want to say and the meeting's gonna be over, and that's it. And what's he gonna do? If you wondered what he meant during the campaign by, "Get your revenge by voting," this may be it.
"President Obama is taking a hard line with congressional Republicans heading into negotiations over the year-end 'fiscal cliff,' making no opening concessions and calling for far more in new taxes than Republicans have so far been willing to consider." In fact, Obama is now claiming he wants to double the tax increases on corporations and the wealthy from what he claimed during the campaign.
Maybe not quite double, but $1.6 trillion.
That's the tax increase on corporations and the wealthy. This is the new tone, the new bipartisan spirit that he promised and what the American people voted for. "Obama is taking a hard line." So these CEOs are being brought in today to be told what's what. "Obama plans to open talks using his most recent budget proposal, which sought to raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy by $1.6 trillion over the next decade...
"That's double the sum that House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) offered Obama during secret debt negotiations in 2011." So Boehner offered to play ball. We're just learning this. Boehner offered to play ball on new "revenue," $800 billion. Obama has come back in this new spirit of bipartisanship and a new tone that he promised us during the campaign and that the American people voted for.
He now says, "You know, screw that $800 billion, Boehner! Screw you and screw the $1.6 trillion now. What are you gonna do about it? I won! Well, you want a select committee on Benghazi? Go right ahead. Go, go, go, and ask for it. I already talked to Harry Reid. You think you're gonna get to first base on that select committee? Yeah, Petraeus is coming up to testify. You really think he's gonna testify against me?
"Ha-ha-ha! You guys keep on dreaming all you want. But I just tell you, you better get ready: $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. That's for openers, and then the next thing I'm gonna do..." If you go to the end of this Washington Post story: "In addition to raising taxes, Obama proposed to [cut] $340 billion from health-care programs..." Exactly what the Republicans said during the campaign! We told you: He's going to cut health care. He's gonna take it out of Medicare and Medicaid.
The Democrats said, "They're lying! How dare they lie about our president? He would never cut health care." It's his bill. He's cutting health care by $340 billion. All these "fact-checkers" told us that cuts to health care programs are a Republican lie, as is saving $1 trillion from ending of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's a lie. Those savings, if you even call 'em that (I don't even concede that), were factored in long time ago.
Even in this story, even in this story guess who is blamed for the current economic plight that we are in? Bush! George W. Bush is blamed even in this story. The reason Obama has to take these drastic measures is because of the irresponsibility of the Bush administration. So everything that you and I suspected that Obama would do is happening. Massive tax increases that will totally shut down economic activity.
This $1.6 trillion in taxes on corporations and the wealthy is in addition to the Obamacare taxes. "Obama has been pressing to let the George W. Bush-era tax cuts expire at the end of the year for the wealthiest 2% of the nation's households, a tax hike adamantly opposed by Republicans. But Carney suggested that even the revenue generated by letting those tax cuts end would not be enough to tame the national debt and..."
No kidding! Of course it isn't. Do you know how much money is raised by eliminating the Bush tax cuts? It's $824 billion. We're now looking, ladies, at our fifth trillion-plus-dollar deficit. So all during the campaign we shouted our lungs out, we shouted from the mountaintop, "You cannot reduce the deficit, you can't even make a dent in the deficit by letting the Bush tax rates expire! There's not enough money. You can't do it.
"In fact, if you confiscate all the money the rich have over a million dollars, you run the government for six weeks and then you're out of money. That's how much money we're spending. That's how much money that we are watching go out the door and how much money we're borrowing," and now the regime admits it! Jay Carney admits "even the revenue generated by letting those tax cuts end would not be enough."
That's why we have to raise them even more!
It's exactly what was said during the campaign. It's exactly what we said. But the bottom line is, folks, this has nothing to do with generating or gaining more revenue, because it won't. This is gonna shut down the engine that produces and creates wealth, which creates revenue. This is nothing other than punishment. This is the "revenge" that Obama was talking about in the campaign. This is punishment of the rich, punishment of the successful. Because "the rich," in his world, are defined as 200 grand a year and up.
That’s fair since everyone else is laughing at how you avoid dealing with facts. :fistbump:
You think you can goose tax rates right up to 100% and keep getting your take to go up, up, up? That’s where you are headed, you leftist troll.
fistbump with whom but your own self? I see a definite paucity of your pals, you leftist troll.
Stop taking this personally. I haven't attacked you personally at all whereas the same can't be said of your posts to me. I've presented hard data. You've refused to engage that at all. That's cool and all but don't expect your handwringing to be taken seriously.
The facts don't agree with your narrative. It's up to you how you want to handle that.
If you think the facts I presented are incorrect than please post the facts you think are correct. And your continued assertions without evidence are not "facts".
Up your game buddy, I really want to have this discussion with you!
you make personal attacks and off topic mockings then say don’t take it personally...
yeah i got you tagged. you are a leftist troll. avaunt thee.
Umm... They earned a lot of money and became wealthy.
To a Socialist, that is wrong. No kidding. Wealth gained through business and capitalism is theft. "The Rich" got that way by stealing from and trampling on the Working Man.
It's pure Marxism, and he's running it right down the line.
Oddly enough, Marxists always seem to exempt rich leftists -- Democrats -- from their anger.
I never said anything setting the top tax rate to 100%. Now who's assuming who's positions? Your post ^^ is called a strawman. I understand why you'd want to create a strawman since that's a lot easier to knockdown.
Thats where you are headed, you leftist troll.
And now that you're done with the strawman you go for the ad hominem. I have pretty thick skin so it's ok HiTech, I still like you. :hug:
you ought to know about ad hominem, but the truth is that we do not suffer leftist trolls here gladly.
I don't think I have attacked you personally. But that's ok, I apologize if I did.
yeah i got you tagged. you are a leftist troll. avaunt thee.
You watch, in a few weeks we're going to be best internet buds even though we probably disagree about most political things. You aren't going to be able to help yourself. ;)
You're still dodging the issue about tax rates and revenue growth. Are you holding out hope that Admin Moderator will save you?
Here is your tax the rich or raise taxes explained.
Are you holding out the hope that you will troll me into an intemperate blast? I pity you.
12 years ago we had a surplus. I will trade you spending cuts back to Clinton levels, adjusted for inflation, for also going back to Clinton-era tax rates.
Nah, I'm just trying to get you to engage in the substance of the tax rate/revenue discussion.
But I really did mean it! I don't remember attacking you personally so if you can point out where I did I'll be happy to apologize for the specific posts.
Does your screen have more than one line in it?
Certainly if the golden goose happens to be ill from something other than just taxes, it can yield less on a sustained basis.
Why yes it does!