Posted on 11/13/2012 8:08:40 AM PST by all the best
At the close of 2011, Barack Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act for the year 2012. In it are what some constitutional experts consider to be some of the greatest constitutional violations in American history. At issue are sections 1021 and 1022 which, in essence, create a new power for the federal government to “indefinitely detain” – without due process – any person. Indefinitely. That’s little different than kidnapping.
In response, there’s been a bit of a firestorm from people across the political spectrum. Local communities in Colorado sent out the first warning shots, passing resolutions and ordinances rejecting such power earlier this year. Then, at the close of the 2012 state legislative session, Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell signed House Bill 1160, making that state the first to paw a law not only rejecting the federal act, but fully banning any state agency from cooperating with the feds on it.
Currently, more than 15 local communities have done the same. Michigan is also considering a bill that is similar to Virginia’s. And today, Texas State Representative Lyle Larson introduced House Bill 149 (HB149), the Texas Liberty Preservation Act. This might be the strongest anti-NDAA bill introduced yet.
It states, in part:
Sections 1021 and 1022 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (Pub. L. No. 112-81) violate portions of federal law, the United States Constitution, and the Texas Constitution and, as such, are invalid and illegal in this state.
It also, like Virginia’s law, requires full noncompliance with the federal act:
It is the policy of this state to refuse to provide material support for or to participate in any way with the implementation within this state of Sections 1021 and 1022 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com ...
An offense under Subsection (a) is a Class A misdemeanor punishable by confinement for a term not to exceed one year, a fine of not more than $10,000, or both the confinement and the fine.
Another shot across Obama’s bow. Hope it passes.
‘Introduced’, but has it passed and been signed into law?
God Bless Texas.
“Introduced’, but has it passed and been signed into law?”
No, it hasn’t been introduced yet. Our state legislature meets every other year. A new session starts this coming January. This bill will be introduced then. Republicans have the majority in our house and senate, so it should pass.
I’ve concluded that a revolt at the State level is all that will save the country as founded. There are 30 States that are currently headed by Republican governors. Even with Obama’s 57 that’s a majority.
Ping.
“...Another shot across Obama’s bow. Hope it passes....”
Won’t matter under Holder’s “Group O’Felons.”
They don’t need no stinkin’ constitution if you ain’t their people.
I really want front seat tickets to the guillotine following the successful completion of CW-II and the subsequent de-necking of liberals.
All of them.
FYI.
What is terrible is the fact we in Texas and other states have to write laws to stop the federal government from taking us over. Every law passed that invalidates laws the federal government passed, is a type of revolt in order to keep our freedom.
It's like dumping the federal government's tea in the ocean again and again in order to keep our independence.
It's been talked about Texas could secede from the US but each law we pass to shut down federal control of us, is a secession slap to the feds.
“Our state legislature meets every other year. A new session starts this coming January. “
I forgot about that. Well, I hope they get it passed.
‘Introduced’, but has it passed and been signed into law?
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http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=83R&Bill=HB149
Last Action: 11/12/2012 H Filed
Caption Version: Introduced
The Texas Legislature will begin its session in Jan. 2013.
Somehow, the very fact that a state creates a law like this to counter federal edicts reminds me of whistling past the graveyard. For some odd reason, I don’t think your law will stop them, much less slow them down.
At least one of those governors publicly worshiped Obama. Who knows how many others he can bring to heel.
I hope this passes...but have no faith in TX PhonyCon RINO Gov Rick Perry. Look what happened when TX tried to pass the anti-TSA law....Perry and other PhonyCons killed it.
The members of the Texas Legislature may introduce upwards of 8,000 bills/resolutions about 20% of which will be passed. A large percent never get acted upon.
Should start with the fifth column enemy of We The People, euphemistically known as ‘the mainstream media’. I’ve been sayin’ guillotines from orbit, it’s the only way to clean up this infestation of lying vermin.
After the bill passes I can’t wait for a Texan to be charged under NDAA and hide out in the Texas Capitol building. The state should offer asylum and dare the feds to come get him.
“For some odd reason, I don’t think your law will stop them, much less slow them down.”
Ah, but will YOU make any attempt to stop them or to slow them down?
Everybody thinking everybody else will give them stuff - like liberty.
Ultimately, it will need to be fought for. Our Forefathers knew that. Do we?
What Obama can’t get through legislation, he will get through executive orders. If that doesn’t work he will get through international treaties and the united nations.
The repubs in congress better get some conjones if we are to see this through.
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So a federal agent can come in and take someone into custody without due process, etc, be in the process of driving that individual out of state (kidnapping) and only face misdemeanor charges??
Sounds like 20 years to me.
BTW, if the agent was successful in getting the individual across the state line, would Texas pursue and seek pursuit, arrest and extrodition for the agent from other states?
It is the real beggining of the push back. an armed revolt will not work. people are mad but are not yet ready to give up their lives for that of an armed revolutionary. The revolt will be real but not with arms. The ballot box will not work as we have just seen from this past election. I truly do not trust any democrat in a position of authority when it comes to voting (other issues also but not part of this discussion).
After the Bush/Gore issue in Florida, George Soros got a group of his like minded billionaires together. This included the owner of Phoenix University and others that I do not recall offhand (age). Their conclusion was that they needed to focus much of their election efforts on the each states on the office of whomever is resposible for certifiying the election (Secry of State) as well as the local election officials. It has been quite effective.
It is time for revolution
” For some odd reason, I don’t think your law will stop them, much less slow them down.”
I see that you are not familiar with our County Sheriffs. They are not to be trifled with especially if you are a Fed.
Do any Texans out there know if any bills have been introduced yet supporting Constitutional Carry?
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Additional Resources:
Tenth Amendment Chronicles Thread
Tenth Amendment Center
Firearms Freedom Act
Health Care Nullification
| CLICK HERE TO FIND YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES |
Let’s be honest, if it was Bush doing this, many freepers would be making excuses for it. I remember all sorts of violations of civil liberties put into place by Bush that conservatives defended. I remember thinking “yeah, cuz you trust Bush not to abuse it, but someday we’ll have a president who *wants* to abuse it.”
I don't think anybody really believes it will stop them. It's just explaining to them what coming that hopefully will.
I don't think anybody really believes it will stop them. It's just explaining to them what's coming that hopefully will.
The real question here is how did this NDAA get by Boner’s house?
The only way this could stop them is if the bill were to authorize full use of deadly force against perps by all citizens.
And Allen West the Freeper’s hero voted for NDAA. Wake Freepers, Allen voted for NDAA and funding for Obamacare.
JMHO, but I think what's clear is there are elements in this country that could care less. Many of them in this administration, including dear leader, and certainly a majority of the Dim party. Fact is, Constitutional principles are a roadblock to their agenda. Our would-be masters have been snipping around the edges for over 200 years and the jug eared kenyan is making the final push. All the while we set on our collective butts and screech about it. Organized resistance is the only thing that will put a stop to the madness. Where's OUR community organizer???
IMHO, it's likely a simple matter to organize deadbeats, miscreants and other assorted malcontents but organizing a group of conservatives whose primary goals in life are to care for their families and be left alone is a horse of another color. Our "enemy" knows this about us and they will continue to push until they are met with enough force to exact painful consequences. Will it happen? Beats me. BUT if it doesn't, our children and grandchildren will end up slaves on the government/corporate plantation.
I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
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