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U.S. Offers New Details Of Deadly Libya Attack (NPR calls it a mob)
NPR ^ | 11/1/12 | Tom Bowman

Posted on 11/01/2012 7:01:49 PM PDT by Drango

Once a mob began attacking the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on the night of Sept. 11, officials in Washington, D.C., watched with alarm. Now, new details are emerging about their response to the deadly attack.

President Obama and his entire national security team monitored what was going on half a world away. Army Gen. Carter Ham, who was the regional commander for Africa, happened to be in Washington that day.

One source familiar with the events said there was a sense of urgency.

The consulate was burning, and Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was visiting the consulate with a small security team, was missing in the smoky chaos. For the next six hours or more, top officials in Washington watched and tried to send help as a second attack centered on the consulate's annex, a secret CIA base.

Officials say that U.S. forces from Europe and Fort Bragg in North Carolina were dispatched in an effort to help, but they arrived too late. Officials considered sending U.S. warplanes from Italy, but it was decided dropping bombs would lead to civilian casualties.

Officials dispute a report on Fox News that there was a delay, a "stand down" for CIA operatives and Libyan guards to help those under fire at the consulate.

Could The U.S. Military Come To Their Aid?

The officials had little time to respond. There were no U.S. troops anywhere near the consulate, either in Libya or even in neighboring countries. So dozens of special operations forces and CIA guards from Tripoli were sent by aircraft to Benghazi, 480 miles to the east. They could not get there in time to help defend the consulate.

Ham, back in Washington, requested a military counterterrorism force from Europe. But they arrived in Libya the day after the attack and deployed to Tunisia two days later. A larger special operations force was sent from Fort Bragg, complete with their own helicopters and trucks. They arrived in Sigonella, Italy, too late to be any help. No American forces were denied by Washington, officials say.

American attack aircraft? An AC-130 gunships would seem to make sense. That's the lumbering black cargo plane, a flying battleship with three types of heavy guns and high-resolution cameras. It's often used to support special operations forces in tight urban areas and can zoom in on enemy forces. But there were no Spectre gunships in the area, officials learned.

Attack helicopters? None around. There were two Navy ships in the Mediterranean, the USS Laboon and the USS McFaul, but only the Laboon is equipped with a Seahawk helicopter, the Navy's version of the BlackHawk.

They were American warplanes based in Aviano, Italy, just across the Mediterranean. But they could not arrive in time to help with the consulate fight. When the attack began, consulate officials made an urgent call to the CIA guards at the nearby annex: We're under attack.

Was The Rescue Delayed?

The CIA official there organized his force and the Libyan guards at the annex. Some tried to find heavy machine guns to bring along to the consulate, about a mile away. One of the CIA operatives waiting to leave grew increasingly angry, convinced they were being told to "stand down" on two occasions, according a report on Fox News.

CIA officials in Washington strongly deny there was any order not to mount a rescue mission. And the source tells NPR there was never an order to stay put. It was all about getting ready, not delaying. Within 24 minutes, the American and Libyan team moved out toward the consulate.

The convoy drove along an indirect route to avoid hostile militias, and the Americans and Libyans hustled along on foot for the last half mile, arriving an hour after the call for help.

The source said that surveillance cameras establish what time they left the annex and what time they showed up at the consulate. When they arrived, Ambassador Stevens was missing. He was carried to a hospital by looters, and later died there of asphyxiation from the smoke he inhaled while in the consulate's safe room.

The American and Libyan team loaded up the wounded and the survivors and made their way back to the annex. They got lost in the maze of streets, and some militia members shot at their tires as they made it back to the annex. In Washington, there was relief. At the White House and the Pentagon, top officials believed the worst was over after the successful rescue mission.

The Second Attack

For several hours, there was a lull in the fighting. Then a second attack began, at the well-fortified annex. In Washington, the issue of attack aircraft came up among top officials.

The F-16 Fighting Falcons could come to the rescue from their base in Aviano, some officials thought. But there were no clear targets, it was decided. An unarmed Predator drone flew over the area, just before the consulate attack ended. But it offered only a "soda straw" view hundreds of feet below near the annex. There were no armed drones in the area.

Officials watched the grainy footage from the drone. It was hard to determine among the hundreds of people who was with a militia supporting the U.S., and who was taking part in that second attack, and who was a spectator — people, as the source said, "watching a war movie in front of them." Sporadic gunfire added to the confusion about separating friend from foe.

Officials eventually decided they can't drop large bombs in a residential neighborhood.

A decision was made: No close air support, not even as a show of force that could possibly disperse the fighters. The Americans, and their Libyan allies fighting with them on the ground, were on their own.

At some point, the Quick Reaction Force arrived from Tripoli to help. Rocket-propelled grenades and mortars slammed into the annex. One mortar curled into the base and killed two Americans. The annex was never breached, and the attackers were fought off. The force from Tripoli helped move the survivors to the airport.

There was frustration in Washington that no more American firepower could be brought to help, according to the source. No more troops. No aircraft at all. If the Quick Reaction Force from Tripoli had not been able to fight off the attackers and evacuate the annex, there would have been even more casualties and perhaps more pressure to send in some type of additional American force.

In the end, four Americans were killed: Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, a U.S. Foreign Service officer, as well as two embassy security personnel, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods. Another 30 Americans and Libyans were wounded.

Obama and some of the same senior officials who huddled in Washington and tried to send them help assembled at Andrews Air Force Base three nights later to meet the four caskets


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; cia; lybia; npr; obama; shadowwars; threatmatrix; tyronewoods
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To: Drango

This whole article is a joke. A very weak attempt to cover Obama’s sorry a$$. In all of the articles, stories, and/or reports that I have read or watched, there has not been any mention of Obama’s security team (NSC) being convened to monitor the situation. This should be easy to confirm...just check the calendars for all NSC members. If this had happened, it would have been reported on September 12, and there would be pictures.

The article uses vague terms such as: “One source familiar with the events said there was a sense of urgency.” Was the source in the WH situation room? I am familiar with the events, and I say that there wasn’t a sense of urgency.

FTA: “Officials say that U.S. forces from Europe and Fort Bragg in North Carolina were dispatched in an effort to help”. Which “Officials”? Fort Bragg? How dumb is that?

FTA: “Officials considered sending U.S. warplanes from Italy, but it was decided dropping bombs would lead to civilian casualties.” Which “Officials”? Who decided that dropping bombs would lead to civilian casualties?

The source for the article was a Democrat party hack with no knowledge of the military. The entire article is a joke.


21 posted on 11/01/2012 7:27:03 PM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: Drango

The old media, which includes NPR, believe that they answer to a higher calling. Their higher calling is to coverup and protect the Democrat party because the Democrat party has the higher calling of making a utopia in the United States. The fact that the Democrats haven’t achieved a utopia is explained away by blaming their failures on the Republicans. It’s a brilliant scam. The Democrats really want to give us utopia but they can never quite achieve it because of those rotten Republicans. The leadership of the Democrat party, for the last 60 or 70 years, seems to be able to achieve utopia for themselves. The majority of Democrat voters fail to notice that their leaders achieve utopia, but that doesn’t seem to pass along to the majority of Democrats. This is politely known as REALITY DISCOMFITURE, or, more commonly, being stupid. If your leaders are all wealthy, but they keep telling you that they just can’t quite get that wealth to you, well, then, you are stupid for supporting them.


22 posted on 11/01/2012 7:27:10 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Drango

Greta

ROBERTS: Public NOT buying WH explanation of Lybia attack!

“Ham, back in Washington, requested a military counterterrorism force from Europe. But they arrived in Libya the day after the attack and deployed to Tunisia two days later.”

~ Didn’t Ham say that his help was NOT requested?


23 posted on 11/01/2012 7:27:18 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Drango

NPR you lying propaganda-mongering b@$!@rds!!!

What a shameless disgrace!!!


24 posted on 11/01/2012 7:27:42 PM PDT by Humble Servant (Work for the most conservative one in the race, and keep up the pressure.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Partisan Media Shills ping. Thanks Drango.


25 posted on 11/01/2012 7:33:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Mali: France pointed against al-Qaeda

Mali: France pointed against al-Qaeda | Le Figaro | September 24, 2012 | Isabelle Lasserre | Posted on 09/26/2012 9:55:01 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
A map of the Sahel region showing where Al Qaeda operates (AFP/Graphic)

A map of the Sahel region showing where Al Qaeda operates (AFP/Graphic)

26 posted on 11/01/2012 7:34:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Drango

“Officials watched the grainy footage from the drone.”

“Grainy” footage from the drone? Drones might not be perfect, but their images are far from grainy.


27 posted on 11/01/2012 7:35:24 PM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Drango
NPR, next on the chopping block after big bird. Just to lighten things a little, I think i have taught my 15 year old daughter well. Here's a target she shot at a couple of weekends ago. She had a blast shooting. (Note: this is at 25 yards with a Browning Buckmark .22 pistol. The target was printed on 8 1/2 x 11 paper. Only five misses, the rest are head shots on a target much smaller than Big Bird's head. Yes, I am a proud daddy.)Uploaded from the Photobucket iPhone App
28 posted on 11/01/2012 7:50:57 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (I advocate indentured servitude for the 47% until the national debt is eliminated.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; crosslink; penelopesire

MSM playing along with muddying the water, at the expense of patriots.

Truly disgusting.

There was a recent report discussing the so-called WH ‘strategy.’


29 posted on 11/01/2012 7:53:56 PM PDT by maggief
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To: penelopesire; crosslink; maggief; MestaMachine; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Something big coming tomorrow. That s why Obama’ s Pravda trolls are flooding the presses before the levee breaks....lol! They are all going down.

YES! Great thinking!!! I'm praying you're right!

Friday night document dump? Nah.

Glenn Beck stops playing games and spills his guts?

A patriot comes forward?

FoxNews breaks the story?

PRAY!
30 posted on 11/01/2012 8:00:43 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Sporke
“Officials watched the grainy footage from the drone.”

That conflicts with the Jake Tapper report today that said no drone footage was viewed live by the WH and others. As to this article: this is literally a simple list of "conservative claims" and the "facts" used to refute are straight-out Obama and Co. talking points. I do agree that it is curious that NPR would be putting out such a lengthy story even as biased as it is. I guess we will know sooner than later since this is simply moving it to the front burner again.

31 posted on 11/01/2012 8:07:34 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Middle East Islamic Democracy: "One Man, One Vote, One Time")
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To: Drango
Army Gen. Carter Ham, who was the regional commander for Africa, happened to be in Washington that day.

He was ?

32 posted on 11/01/2012 8:09:20 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: maggief

We knew they would do this....it isn’t going to help. They have told so many lies they can’t even keep up with them anymore.


33 posted on 11/01/2012 8:11:17 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Drango; All

” - - - A decision was made: No close air support, not even as a show of force that could possibly disperse the fighters. The Americans, and their Libyan allies fighting with them on the ground, were on their own. - - - “

If you get in Military trouble, Commander-in-Chief OBAMA WILL LEAVE YOU BEHIND.


34 posted on 11/01/2012 8:11:39 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: onyx

Somebody better stand up and soon. This horrible man and his party needs to be exposed. Reading the comments at the WP would turn your stomach. Progs!


35 posted on 11/01/2012 8:13:33 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: onyx; penelopesire

We need to humiliate and shut these traitor tools down.


36 posted on 11/01/2012 8:16:40 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Drango

Another NPR Coverup.

They don’t know how to report truth.


37 posted on 11/01/2012 8:20:04 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Kimberly GG

“~ Didn’t Ham say that his help was NOT requested?”

AFRICOM Leader General Carter Ham Was Never Ordered to Save US Men in Benghazi

Per Rep. Jason Chaffetz R-UT asking General Ham directly:

(close paraphrase)

Did we have assets in the area? The answer is “yes”.
Did we have proximity? The answer is “yes”.
Why we didn’t send in some of those assets? The general said he was not requested to do so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4W1LDSs5X4&feature=youtube_gdata_player


38 posted on 11/01/2012 8:36:47 PM PDT by haffast
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To: Drango

the drone could have easily eliminated
the Taliban mortar team


39 posted on 11/01/2012 8:38:18 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: haffast

“Why we didn’t send in some of those assets? The general said he was not requested to do so.”

NPR must have missed that interview!

I’m curious about Ham being in DC that very day...why was he there? Was he with the President when all was going down?


40 posted on 11/01/2012 8:53:21 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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