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Why did Obama choose to “stand down” in Benghazi? (Best explanation of motive I've read.)
PowerLine ^ | October 27, 2012 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 10/28/2012 8:11:58 AM PDT by StandAndDeliver1

As John and Scott point out, the CIA has issued a statement making it clear that “no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need [in Benghazi]; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate.” That statement surely was issued with the approval, and presumably at the direction, of the CIA’s director, General Petraeus.

Who, then, made the several decisions denying help to the Americans in Benghazi who needed it? Who, initially, told CIA to “stand down” in face of the attack? Who decided that American defense forces an hour or two away in Southern Europe would not be deployed?

Bill Kristol argues that, at least with respect to not sending in the military, the decision must have been made by President Obama. Given what was at stake – the safety of Americans, including an ambassador, in the face of an attack by hostile forces – Kristol surely is right. It is inconceivable that none of the key actors — Secretary of Defense Panetta, Secretary of State Clinton, and General Petraeus — failed to present to Obama the decision of how to respond. And if Obama failed to make a decision, that would be more damning than making the wrong one.

Kristol goes on to ask: “When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?”

The key question is “why.”

Leon Panetta has provided an answer. He says “the basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on, without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.” At one level, this answer doesn’t work. He and the others involved did know the essence of what was going on, and they did have real time information.

At another level, Panetta’s statement provides a window into the thinking at the White House that day. Although the administration knew, in general, what was going on, there was much uncertainly in Benghazi. We didn’t know for sure what the outcome of the attack on our personnel would be; we didn’t know whether military forces, if deployed, would have succeeded in saving them; we didn’t know how many of our rescuers would have been killed; and we didn’t know (as far as I can tell) what Libya’s reaction to the use of large-scale use of American military force would be.

Faced with uncertainty, Obama apparently opted for caution, hoping that somehow the CIA contingent from Tripoli, aided perhaps by Libyan forces, would save the situation.

This is just the decision one would expect from Obama. By temperament, he is a non-interventionist and (except when pet domestic policies are in play) a non-risk taker. He was highly cognizant of the consequences of a failed U.S. military operation in Libya, including, I suspect, the electoral consequences in an election that he believed on September 11 he was winning fairly handily.

Let’s also remember that, although Obama decided to approve the raid that killed bin Laden, his team apparently considered this (and his campaign has promoted it as) a difficult decision. Bill Clinton and Joe Biden praise Obama’s alleged courage on this occasion, pointing to the adverse consequences to Obama of a failed mission against bin Laden.

If the decision to kill an unsuspecting and poorly defended bin Laden – America’s enemy number 1 for a decade – was difficult for the Obama administration to make, then the odds were always against a decision to fly our military blind into harm’s way in Benghazi in response to situation whose precise contours weren’t well known. Obama’s decision not to intervene was likely less about “the fog of war” than about fear of the fog of war.

In hindsight, Obama made the wrong decision. The extent to which he should be criticized for the decision is difficult to assess because we don’t know all of the information he had at the time the decision had to be made. Perhaps the decision was a reasonable one to make at that time. But let’s keep in mind that our inability to assess this is due mainly to the administration’s unwillingness to speak about the decision and the surrounding events.

Voters, then, must assess the administration’s handling of Benghazi with limited information. But we do know this: (1) the administration erred grievously by leaving open our mission in Benghazi while turning down requests for more security, (2) the administration made the wrong decision on the day of the attack by not bringing our military to bear, a decision consistent with Obama’s instincts, and (3) the administration has not been forthcoming or honest in its discussion of Benghazi after the fact.

These facts, without more, present a serious indictment of Obama.


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To: StandAndDeliver1

Here’s what I think his motivation is (besides CYA).

While the bad guys in the WH are scrambling to deny their cover up and misdirection, I believe there is another long-standing related issue with this.

IMO Obama has as one of his main goals: improving the image of Islam around the world and helping its expansion.

Of course the Taliban, Al Qaeda and other fanatics keep getting in the way by killing ambassadors and shooting 14 year old girls.

Look at the apology tour, the support of the muslim brotherhood, moslems in the top of the state department advisors and the WH. Add his comments about the film for 14 days, even after he knew is was a terrorist attack..

The calling of the Ft. Hood terrorist attack, workplace violence, is just another outlandish example.

Stevie Wonder can see the pattern. Any decent reporter could make this into a headline story if they had the balls.


121 posted on 10/28/2012 12:34:44 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: epow
"Words fail me to describe the utter revulsion and lack of respect I have for this sorry excuse for a Commander in Chief of US armed forces. No other president in US history would have failed those 4 brave American heroes the way this self-serving CinC did."

Ditto.

I like your profile page, too. Fits in rather well now and then...

122 posted on 10/28/2012 12:59:20 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: mjp
"Maybe Valerie Jarrett told him not to send help."

From what I've understood in the past and am reading now in Edward Klein's "The Amateur," I have little doubt. She has her fingerprints on this.

123 posted on 10/28/2012 1:03:34 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: Factfinder
"My explanation is better: ZerO didn’t want Arab blood on his hands; preferred to let our guys die. He’s on Brotherhood’s side. Wake up America!"

BTTT.

124 posted on 10/28/2012 1:05:33 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: oldbrowser

Who had the authority to direct AFRICOM second in command to relieve his senior?


125 posted on 10/28/2012 1:07:45 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: UglyinLA
"The author misses the most important key actor... Valerie Jarrett. I think her role in this has been totally hidden from public view."

Agree.

Just why is she getting such secret service detail?

Because she is pretty much co-president and makes major decisions?

Because Obama can't do without her? Can't make decisions without her?

Why does she get such protection?!

126 posted on 10/28/2012 1:11:20 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: UglyinLA
"The author misses the most important key actor... Valerie Jarrett. I think her role in this has been totally hidden from public view."

Agree.

Just why is she getting such secret service detail?

Because she is pretty much co-president and makes major decisions?

Because Obama can't do without her? Can't make decisions without her?

Why does she get such protection?!

127 posted on 10/28/2012 1:11:20 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: sanjuanbob
"That would be General Carter Ham of Africom who was relieved of his duties 30 seconds after ignoring his order to stand down on the afternoon of 9/11. Good story today in American Thinker showing the chain of command."

BTTT.

128 posted on 10/28/2012 1:20:10 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: StandAndDeliver1

Good article. The other thing to add is that sending in forces would conflict with Obama’s campaign message of “ending wars” and withdrawing troops from around the world. To “win” on this issue, he needed to avoid deploying troops to Libya on the ground AND he needed to make it sound like terrorists were weak enough that deploying troops would no longer be necessary around the world. Hence, that leads to the White House trying to spin later that this was a “spontaneous” riot which could not have been predicted and has no connection to organized terrorism.

Thanks to the mainstream media’s complicity with Obama’s message in that regard, they were certainly getting away with that strategy for at least a good, solid month.


129 posted on 10/28/2012 1:46:26 PM PDT by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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To: Gen.Blather

It would be a rare occasion, outside of Pakistan, where someone other than the President would be able to order military force used in another country without a state of war.

While your plan sounds good, it is not practical.


130 posted on 10/28/2012 2:02:23 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (The dude abides.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thank the good Lord for stupidity. I wish he’d gotten those guys out but it would have been sickening to see them spiking the ball all the way to Nov. 6. This is driving me nuts. I’m excited and depressed at the same time.


131 posted on 10/28/2012 2:02:59 PM PDT by peridot
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To: tacticalogic
"There's also the theory that he was meant to be taken hostage, so that Obama could look presidential negotiating a deal to get them released, but it all went sideways when the contingent from Tripoli launched that rescue attempt against orders."

Maybethe hostage scenario went south when the two SEALs from the annex went to aid the consulate personnel. I don't think that was counted on either.

It seemed odd to me that the people who brought Stevens out of the consulate were yelling Allah Akbar and yelling that he was alive.

Maybe they were saying this because they hoped the kidnap scenario could still be enacted. Maybe they were still hoping to get the Blind Sheik back in the trade-off.

Just seemed odd that the people who were attacking with RPGs would be giving the Allah Akbar upon finding the ambassador alive - assuming the people bringing his body out were the same attacking the consulate.

132 posted on 10/28/2012 4:03:10 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: Piranha
"Ultimately, too many people were involved in the events of September 11, 2012 for the betrayal of Ambassador Stevens to stay hidden, as Obama intended. First, the two Navy Seals defied orders and went to protect the Ambassador. In addition, the senior Navy person sought permission to intervene. In addition, the attack was being broadcast in many locations (I saw that it could have been as many as 15), and many people were outraged that nothing more was done."

It got too complicated and the whole scenario fell apart...

BTTT.

133 posted on 10/28/2012 4:09:10 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: Auntie Mame
"Considering that Obama does drugs—I mean, really, he was seriously mis-medicated in the first debate and if you can’t wrap your mind around that, watch him here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNu9xjUwPEk"

Absolutely ODD!

Rush said once that Obama took 4 hours once to play a round of golf. Rush said no one takes 4 hours to play a round of golf. He joked, IIRC, that maybe Obama was smoking cigarettes behind Michelle's back.

Maybe he was smoking something else - he is ODD on that video.

BTTT.

134 posted on 10/28/2012 4:34:27 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: P-Marlowe
"He didn’t want to leave any witnesses alive."

My theory as well. Possible coordination with the Islamists?
135 posted on 10/28/2012 4:35:34 PM PDT by KamperKen
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To: Hardraade
"Well, O isn’t dumb. He’s playing the islamist hand, and he knows AQ. Since he *is* AQ."

W-O-A-H!

Interesting post....BTTT.

136 posted on 10/28/2012 4:46:34 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: danamco
"But more importantly, he did NOT want the Ambassador’s gun-running operation to Syria via Turkey"

Who is the Turkish official the ambassador met with the evening of 9/11?

The attack started some time after the Turkish official left the compound.

137 posted on 10/28/2012 4:49:57 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: Shery
" #1. Was Stevens set up, or purposely left to die, and why, if so? #2. Were American ammunitions/weaponry in use and Obama knew it? Wanted to let the scavengers get all the stuff picked up before they were found and cited in the investigation?"

That's one clever way of getting people to do your dirty work. Wonder if Valerie Jarrett thought of it, or at least, sanctioned it. Obama is believed to not do anything without her approval.

138 posted on 10/28/2012 6:44:23 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: morphing libertarian
"IMO Obama has as one of his main goals: improving the image of Islam around the world and helping its expansion. Of course the Taliban, Al Qaeda and other fanatics keep getting in the way by killing ambassadors and shooting 14 year old girls. Look at the apology tour, the support of the muslim brotherhood, moslems in the top of the state department advisors and the WH. Add his comments about the film for 14 days, even after he knew is was a terrorist attack.. The calling of the Ft. Hood terrorist attack, workplace violence, is just another outlandish example." Also, he wants muslims to be trained - by NASA no less - in math and science.
139 posted on 10/28/2012 7:01:57 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: Shery
What is OFX?

TIA!

140 posted on 10/28/2012 7:10:35 PM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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