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Why did Obama choose to “stand down” in Benghazi? (Best explanation of motive I've read.)
PowerLine ^ | October 27, 2012 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 10/28/2012 8:11:58 AM PDT by StandAndDeliver1

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To: Hardraade
No. AQ doesn’t play sofball when they’re on a roll.

That doesn't mean O isn't dumb enough to agree to cripple the security in exchange for a (worthless) promise they'll negotiate with him later for the hostage release.

101 posted on 10/28/2012 10:50:32 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: neveralib

I don’t think the fog of war had anything to do with their decision to abandon our people. For some reason they never had any intention of sending help to Benghazi. How long was the attack going on when Ty Woods was told to stand down the first time? I doubt they ever considered sending troops to rescue our people.


102 posted on 10/28/2012 10:50:42 AM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: TruthWillWin; StandAndDeliver1; Leo58
The attacks began at 3:30 DC time, read somewhere that when Obama got the initial call on Benghazi he was on the golf course.

If that is true then how long did it take him to get to the situation room after the call?

It is widely available on the web that at 5:00 pm, ∅rroids, Biden and Panetta were meeting in the ∅val ∅ffice.

103 posted on 10/28/2012 10:52:30 AM PDT by QT3.14 (November 6: Remember BENGHAZI!!)
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To: mdittmar

Which I have been saying makes the most sense. BTW, I just learned that the attackers blocked off the streets surrounding the ambassador’s location more than 30 minutes prior to the attack. It began around nightfall on Sept. 11 with around 150 bearded gunmen, some wearing the Afghan-style tunics favored by Islamic militants, sealing off the streets leading to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. They set up roadblocks with pick-up trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, according to witnesses.

The trucks bore the logo of Ansar al-Shariah, a powerful local group of Islamist militants who worked with the municipal government to manage security in Benghazi, the main city in eastern Libya and birthplace of the uprising last year that ousted Moammar Gadhafi after a 42-year dictatorship.

There was no sign of a spontaneous protest against an American-made movie denigrating Islam’s Prophet Muhammad.


104 posted on 10/28/2012 10:53:26 AM PDT by Stayfree (Find out how Obama is destroying America at White House Commie.com!!)
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To: sanjuanbob

Really? I was thinking about buying it but I wasn’t sure if the acting would be cheesy. I guess I’ll check it out. Thanks!


105 posted on 10/28/2012 10:53:32 AM PDT by rabidralph (I passed Tagline training on the third try. Ask me how!)
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To: IC Ken
"Why did Obama need this Ambassador dead? I think that is the question."

Because of gunrunning (another Fast and Furious?) to Syria and Obama thought he needed no witnesses to be placed under investigation and he thought an investigation was around the corner?

Or, maybe it was a kidnapping that went wrong. That the Ambassador wasn't expected to be killed - he was expected to be kidnapped and traded for the Blind Shiek.

Obama maybe thought he would ride into election as a great diplomat.

Really sorry POS.

106 posted on 10/28/2012 10:55:07 AM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: tacticalogic

Well, O isn’t dumb. He’s playing the islamist hand, and he knows AQ. Since he *is* AQ. So he knew very well what the events were going to be.

He needed Stevens gone.

Now, there are reports that Stevens had converted to islam.

So, the need for Stevens to begone may have been twofold:

Stevens may have had personal knowledge of O’s “downlow” activity and deaths (and now feeling more loyalty to Allah), and Stevens may have had all that inside knowledge of O’s gunfrunning.

Either way, he was a liability.


107 posted on 10/28/2012 11:00:09 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: heights

But more importantly, he did NOT want the Ambassador’s gun-running operation to Syria via Turkey to be known to the American People so he chose to crucify ALL at CIA cesspool in Benghazi. But two Navy Seals crossed his intention!!!


108 posted on 10/28/2012 11:05:01 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: P-Marlowe

You got that right!!!

And don’t forget Clint Eastwood’s statement: “This is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the American People”???


109 posted on 10/28/2012 11:07:41 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Engedi
"...there was major hand wringing over what the Lybian government would think..."

Good question.

Does Libya EVEN have a real government, so to speak? Was there any Libya government that would be offended.

? Doesn't Libyan government basically exist basically on paper?

US worries about Libya when US soil - consulate - is attacked and US personnel are in danger?

The "Arab Street" probably has no fear of the paper tiger - the US - now.

How emboldened are the terrorists now, Mr. President?

No, we are NOT BETTER now THAN 4 YEARS AGO - not by a long shot.

110 posted on 10/28/2012 11:10:57 AM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: bonehead4freedom
I know the picture you are talking about. Notice the brass on the military fella' to Obama's left. Do we even know if Obama was there or was he photoshopped in...

"2. He looks pissed that they went after Bin Laden before he could stop the operation.(He personally vetoed the operation several times!)"

Did Obama give the official - REAL TIME GO AHEAD AT ANY POINT - on kill or capture Osama?

111 posted on 10/28/2012 11:16:36 AM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: bonehead4freedom
""freedom fighters"

You know..."folks".

Their "folks" fighting our "folks".

112 posted on 10/28/2012 11:19:57 AM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: Engedi; holdonnow
"I am surprised that so many so called Liberal lawyers are stepping up to defend the ‘scapegoat” being held until after the electin. “Sarcasm”.....

Yes, they are knocking each other down, aren't they? "Sarcasm"

113 posted on 10/28/2012 11:26:57 AM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: gleeaikin
"Incidentally, I have a son in Afghanistan and think about this stuff a lot."

BTTT.

114 posted on 10/28/2012 11:36:23 AM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: Zman516
"Naw, being the gutless coward he is, he would have just blamed it on everyone else involved and the media would have dutifully backed him up."

People (like Admiral Ham now?) would be relieved of duty and careers would have been ruined.

Military careers, not high-minded journalistic careers.

115 posted on 10/28/2012 11:42:30 AM PDT by hummingbird (Obama campaigns right in our faces. Doesn't bother him at all-it bothers me.)
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To: StandAndDeliver1

Bill Kristol is a ruse and apologist for obama and he’s working his a$$ off to paint the messiah’s actions in as rosy a picture as he can manage. No, obama’s first sin was being asleep at the switchboard when Americans were under attack, BUT HIS BIGGEST, WORST, MOST EGREGIOUS SIN is the coverup and lies that came after. Imagine the incitement to riots and mayhem that those obama lies caused our people and our consulates and American businesses around the world!! The audacity of this decrepit miserable twit to reek havoc has no bounds or red lines. He is an utter plague on homeland. Kristol has no excuses for that.


116 posted on 10/28/2012 11:45:00 AM PDT by parisa
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To: DJ MacWoW

Panetta, who is a radical, is probably the one who recommended the murders in Libya not be stopped.

They sent General Dempsey out to play a role in the cover-up drama for the press. He called Rev. Jones to order him to denounce the you tube video.

These people are such sick puppies. :(


117 posted on 10/28/2012 12:07:45 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: StandAndDeliver1; All
Report: Obama Watched Benghazi Attack From 'Situation Room'

Justice with Judge Jeanine 10/27/12 - CIA talks about latest news about Benghazi coverup

Judge Jeanine speaking with Charles Woods, father of Benghazi slain SEAL Ty Woods

Judge Jeanine asks White House 'How do you sleep at night'

118 posted on 10/28/2012 12:17:43 PM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: StandAndDeliver1

The president and his comrades never envisioned the truth would get out. Thank heavens for OFX news reporters and the internet sites that have scoured every source for news. With them working together, we’ll find out the truth soon enough. Panetta’s claim that you don’t send troops into harms’ way is ludicrous! IS war not harms’ way? Besides, we are supposed to believe that our forces could not have dealt with armed insurgents on the ground? Is that supposedly the current state of our armed forces? I doubt it. They plan and train for this all the time. It IS their mission. It begs a couple questions: #1. Was Stevens set up, or purposely left to die, and why, if so? #2. Were American ammunitions/weaponry in use and Obama knew it? Wanted to let the scavengers get all the stuff picked up before they were found and cited in the investigation?
We have pretty reliable sources that Ambassador Stevens had MUCH more than a diplomatic reason to be there. He’s been related to tracking WMDs and selling weapons to the anti-government types during the so-called Arab Spring. I hope the TRUTH gets out and there is no wiggling out of blame when it hits. Please, LORD! Let this happen ASAP!


119 posted on 10/28/2012 12:24:10 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: StandAndDeliver1
These facts, without more, present a serious indictment of Obama.

These facts, PLUS more...such as the attempt at a cover up by blaming it on a YouTube video.

120 posted on 10/28/2012 12:28:40 PM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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