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Benghazi related?

News also just out Gen. Ham (Africom) getting replaced.

1 posted on 10/27/2012 10:59:19 AM PDT by QT3.14
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Check out this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2950882/posts


2 posted on 10/27/2012 11:01:47 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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The administration may have found their scapegoat.


3 posted on 10/27/2012 11:02:58 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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FYI


4 posted on 10/27/2012 11:03:40 AM PDT by ken5050 (Another reason to vote for Mitt: The Mormon Tabernacle Choir will perform at the WH Christmas party)
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If so, I think their hands were tied and dared not respond unless the ... the .... mulatto bastard said so ... and he didn't.

Whatever ... too late ... 4 men are dead ... murdered.

If they get ANY punishment ... the zero needs to be in chains ..

FIRST !!!

5 posted on 10/27/2012 11:04:00 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/37144547/Interesting-Rumor-Concerning-General-Carter-Ham-and-Stand-Down-Order.aspx

I heard a story today from someone inside the military that I trust entirely. The story was in reference to General Ham that Panetta referenced in the quote below.

quote:
“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”

The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.


6 posted on 10/27/2012 11:04:30 AM PDT by rdax
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Shit just got real...


7 posted on 10/27/2012 11:06:20 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If Hillary reminds every man of his ex-wife, Joe Biden reminds every woman of her ex-husband.)
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Navy replaces admiral leading Mideast strike group

Scapegoats for the greater good - to take the blame that Panetta, the 'Beast and most of all, der 0berFurhrer Hussein 0bama, should be answering to!

9 posted on 10/27/2012 11:06:50 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( For AMERICA's sake: Vote for the Mormon, NOT the muslim; The Capitalist, NOT the Communist! FUBO!)
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To: QT3.14; zot; Interesting Times

Possibly not based upon this paragraph:

“The Stennis group deployed from Bremerton in late August and had entered the Navy 5th Fleet’s area of operations in the Middle East on Oct. 17 after sailing across the Pacific. The Stennis made port visits in Thailand and Malaysia on its way to the Middle East.”

No mention if it is in the Med or somewhere near the Persian Gulf, which is also the Middle East


10 posted on 10/27/2012 11:06:50 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Perhaps a sign that honorable military men are disagreeing with
their ‘political officers’ and are getting sacked for that.


11 posted on 10/27/2012 11:07:23 AM PDT by rfp1234
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Grooming the scapegoat most likely. The buck rolls downhill.


13 posted on 10/27/2012 11:08:22 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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Forgot to add this item from the article:

It is highly unusual for the Navy to replace a carrier strike group commander during its deployment.

15 posted on 10/27/2012 11:10:30 AM PDT by QT3.14 (ZerO: Our first Affirmative Action pResident)
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“She’s gonna blow!” I just found this, it rings true.

Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/26/12 at 9:45 p.m.)


I heard a story today from someone inside the military that I trust entirely. The story was in reference to General Ham that Panetta referenced in the quote below.

quote:


“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”

The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africon.

I found this story when I got home after hearing this story.

quote:


President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Thursday.

General Rodigues Nominated as Head of Africon

As I was typing this I heard John Bolton on Greta say that there are conflicting reports of General Ham’s comments on this tragedy and why a rapid response unit was not deployed. Bolton says someone needs to find out what Ham was saying on 9/11/12.

Interesting to say the least.


18 posted on 10/27/2012 11:17:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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There are a lot of Benghazi “leaks” comming from somewhere and it usually comes from someone at a lower level that’s in the chain of knowledge. The first thing the top of the chain politician does is go after those areas they suspect are challanging their decisions.


19 posted on 10/27/2012 11:17:43 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great para/p)
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Does zero really think that high ranking, deployed (as opposed to Pentagon brass like powell) officers are going to take the heat for zero’s and clinton’s mismanagement???


26 posted on 10/27/2012 11:31:23 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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“Night Of The Long Knives?” Euphemistically speaking that is.


27 posted on 10/27/2012 11:31:33 AM PDT by Joe Marine 76 ("It's The Natural Born Citizenship, Stupid!")
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http://www.stripes.com/news/obama-to-nominate-army-gen-rodriguez-to-lead-africom-1.193564

The Zero is on a purgapalooza ala Joseph Stalin?


29 posted on 10/27/2012 11:32:19 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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It could be the White House perceives a flag-rank level mutiny happening among U.S. forces deployed in the Middle East. Carter Ham and Shoemaker may just be part of it. It might amount to official complaints filed by these guys over Benghazi. Or refusing to sign on to the White House version of Sept. 11-12. The assistant commandant of the Marine Corps is also being replaced. Where was he on Sept. 11?
32 posted on 10/27/2012 11:38:33 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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So we are blaming the military for Benghazi? This just gets worse and worse. God help us all.


36 posted on 10/27/2012 11:47:08 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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Bump for later.


42 posted on 10/27/2012 11:55:12 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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I’m suspicious he had a problem with his zipper.


46 posted on 10/27/2012 12:00:09 PM PDT by GalaxyAB
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