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Millennial generation could kill the NFL
ChristianScienceMonitor ^ | October 19, 2012 | Morley Winograd and Michael D. Hais

Posted on 10/21/2012 7:45:36 AM PDT by chessplayer

Many protective mothers and fathers of Millennials aren't allowing their kids to play tackle football because of health risks. These attitudes could close the NFL’s pipeline to many talented players. But these concerns also have the potential to change the violent NFL culture for the better.

Professional football has been America’s favorite spectator sport since 1972 when baby boomers became the most important TV audience demographic. Steve Sabol, the genius behind NFL Films that helped to popularize the NFL in the 1960s, captured the drama and danger of pro football with his slow motion films of big violent hits backed by stirring music.

Pro football, depicted by Mr. Sabol as a confrontation between good and evil in which there can be only one winner, matched the values of baby boomers a half century ago. But this focus is not as appealing to the Millennial generation with its focus on win-win solutions and an instinct for avoiding confrontation.

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To: hannibaal

Yes you’re right, but the perception is that football is more dangerous.


51 posted on 10/21/2012 9:17:45 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Hawk1976

I love lacrosse and coached it for years. When my son tells me that it’s the fastest growing sport in the country, I remind him that when I was a kid the fastest growing sport was soccer...and it hasn’t replaced the NFL in any way.

Still, I hope you’re right.


52 posted on 10/21/2012 9:18:53 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: Melas

Millennial generation with its focus on win-win solutions and an instinct for avoiding confrontation.


Thats the part that caught my attention the most. Avoiding confrontation. Watch the animal kingdom. For the most part animals will avoid confrontation if at all possible. There are exceptions,,,protecting their young, mating season. They will threaten each other, huff and puff, etc., but when it comes down to it if there is an escape exit they can take to avoid a fight they will take it. Why? Because they know that even if they “win” the fight, the injuries they suffer from it may very well kill them afterward. Too much blood loss, too injured to hunt for food, etc. It seems we are the only species that deliberately seeks injury. When you think about it, how intelligent is that.


53 posted on 10/21/2012 9:19:21 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Darren McCarty
When we were kids we were all in little league baseball and even if we weren't on a team we still ended up playing pick up games.

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54 posted on 10/21/2012 9:19:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Last of the Mohicans

Maybe skating figures around goalies and driving defenders into the boards. :)


55 posted on 10/21/2012 9:22:41 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: hannibaal

I recently got hooked on Gaelic Football, combines all of the best aspects of Football, Rugby and Soccer. Sort of like Aussie Rules, but I think the Irish game flows better.


56 posted on 10/21/2012 9:23:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (World Series bound and picking up steam, GO GET 'EM,TIGERS!)
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To: chargers fan
i guess it's a start...
57 posted on 10/21/2012 9:29:24 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: chessplayer
Well I think I can put my finger on when the problem occurred. I can remember in little league football when all of a sudden they changed how they were teaching kids to block and tackle. It went from blocking and tackling with the shoulder ‘Get your shoulder in there, son!’ to blocking and tackling with the helmet, ‘Put your helmet in there at the numbers, son !’. All of a sudden there was these proliferation of neck rolls as part of your equipment. From then Jr high to high school you struck with your helmet. There were pseudo-scientific explanations from the coaches about how this was safer then using the shoulder. Of we all accepted their explanation, back in the old days of open face helmets and lighter pads you could only hit so hard. Any harder, you hurt yourself more then you hurt the opposition. I played rugby during and after college for almost 20 years and concussions occurred, but it wasn't common. In rugby shoulder tackles were used and the goal in the tackle was as much to tie up or take the ball as bring the man down.

I am not sure what the final answer should be, but banning football isn't it. Demphasizing striking with the helmet my be the best choice. However its a rough game and a right of passage for young American males you can get hurt. You can also drown fishing.

58 posted on 10/21/2012 9:30:49 AM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: chessplayer

My son only played soccer for a few years as a small child, and played regular football a couple years in high school, but all he and his friends care about is English Premier League soccer.


59 posted on 10/21/2012 9:31:37 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: chessplayer
Animals also learn dominance and do not hesitate to be dominant when they are able to do so. Birds chase each other out their area all the type, usually by biting their target in the arse. Goosed is called goosed for a reason. I've seen racoons scrap before. Those are viscous creatures and I wouldn't want to tangle with them unarmed.

How do animals get tough? They do it by playing. Wolves play and nip. Humans play football. While sports is common, most humans don't actively seek out actual street fights unless they are backed into a corner.

60 posted on 10/21/2012 9:33:42 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: Reily

That’s not how I coached (90’s) or was coached. Low, shoulder, wrap up. Do not lead with the helmet.


61 posted on 10/21/2012 9:36:05 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: chessplayer

youth sports bump for later.....


62 posted on 10/21/2012 9:44:50 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: chessplayer

In our little city, there are fewer and fewer youth football teams. Our high schools have gone to year-round football. Track is now football. One of our high schools has 19 assistant coaches. Every coach wants to coach at the next level, so it’s win at any cost. Way too serious. The faculty don’t like athletics. The students ignore or dislike the players. Football is being destroyed at the grade school and college levels. At least here.


63 posted on 10/21/2012 9:45:33 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Darren McCarty

I remember being 11 years old in little league football and being coached on how to tackle as you described. The next season being having that changed to “Put a hat on them, Son!’.

That’s my personal crossing point that I can actually identify on this issue.


64 posted on 10/21/2012 9:52:54 AM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: blueunicorn6

That’s true here in Northern VA, or that’s what my daughter told me when she was in high school.


65 posted on 10/21/2012 9:54:40 AM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: chessplayer

>>How about the NO Saints? The coach encouraged players to deliberately injure opposing players, and they got a bonus if they did so.<<

New gang on the block. The ravens have been thugs since their creation.


66 posted on 10/21/2012 9:58:40 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: GunRunner

>>I’d still root for them over the Steelers. The only team owned by a member of the Obama administration.<<

Rush is a Steeler fan. So am I (I was from Los Angeles so I can root for anyone I want).

But some people do hate them. But not for being thugs. Just for being the Steelers (just like Yankees-haters, Lakers-haters, etc.).


67 posted on 10/21/2012 10:01:23 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: yldstrk

>>good. it is an unsustainable and colossal waste of money and is becoming filled with criminals<<

Unsustainable? The NFL is probably the most profitable enterprise in the history of sports. They probably make more on sales of Madden NFL licensing than many other entire sports combined.

Filled with criminals? Like those paragons of virtue MLB and NBA? if you don’t want the criminal element, eliminate pro sports completely. You can keep hockey and soccer since they aren’t worth watching anyway.

You Nanny staters just can’t wait to get rid of that you don’t like yourselves.


68 posted on 10/21/2012 10:06:45 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Statistically, once you adjust for the extremely small population of football players to the almost universal number of people who either drive or ride in cars, you will find that football is still going to come out looking pretty dangerous.

Using your logic, shooting up heroin is relatively safe, as only around 150,000 overdoses show up in emergency rooms, compared to the 2.5m automobile related injuries that are treated in emergency rooms. Does that make heroin safer than driving? Of course not. The size of the populations are not comparable.


69 posted on 10/21/2012 10:15:13 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: chessplayer

I’ve noticed a shift in youth sports to greater risk for students and families stuck with the bill. Cheerleading takes off points if you use a spotter for gymnastics that are ever more acrobatic. Football pushes kids to tackle and charge, even at young ages. A 14 year old ruins his knee, the parents pay thousands or tens of thousands of dollars for medical costs, the kid is partially handicapped, and it’s all considered “part of the game”. A cheer leader breaks a wrist, cracks a clavicle, it’s shrugged off as a risk of the sport, and there’s no help for parents.
Kids should not be pushed to do physical acts that adults would hesitate to do, with less assistance and preventative measures, with their parents stuck footing the medical bills and physical therapy costs.


70 posted on 10/21/2012 10:17:21 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: freedumb2003
They probably make more on sales of Madden NFL licensing than many other entire sports combined.

Could be. $300m for the 2009-2013 license. That's not chump change.

71 posted on 10/21/2012 10:18:53 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: chessplayer

So much as raise your voice to a child these days and their “parents” freak out. I rarely see children suffer punishment of any kind. This has been going on for several decades as I know see their offspring in business and they cry at the slightest unkind word. They are soooo needy that if you don’t praise them for going to the bathroom and not pissing on their hands they feel that no one loves them and sulk.


72 posted on 10/21/2012 10:27:13 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: tbw2

“Football pushes kids to tackle and charge, even at young ages. “

Always has. I played football at 12. Kids today can’t so much as play a game of chess without going into a “meltdown”.


73 posted on 10/21/2012 10:29:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Melas
Never liked football. It wouldn’t break my heart to see it replaced with a sport with cultural value, like women’s beach volleyball.

I hope you are being sarcastic. Otherwise, you apparently prefer tall, flat-chested women.

74 posted on 10/21/2012 10:33:07 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks chessplayer.
Many protective mothers and fathers of Millennials aren't allowing their kids to play tackle football because of health risks.
That's not why, good grief. These "parents" aren't raising the kids, they're merely acting as proxies for anti-American groups inside and outside the country.


75 posted on 10/21/2012 10:38:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Hawk1976; LS

My son played in high school several years ago when lacrosse was just really getting going here.

My takeaway: If I were Czar, and I mean real Czar and not some wimpy Obama czar, I would ban soccer, issue all the kids lacrosse gear, and make lacrosse the alternative Spring sport (to baseball).

Lacrosse has everything soccer does not. It has scoring, contact, and it requires opposable thumbs!


76 posted on 10/21/2012 10:40:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: LS

many studies have show that Soccer players(no protection) have more head injuries than football players(helmets) or boxers(padded gloves). “Headers”,banging heads together,kicks to head,etc.


77 posted on 10/21/2012 10:42:23 AM PDT by capt B
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To: cripplecreek

I was raised in the 50’s & ‘60’s...our mama’s didn’t even know where WE were!


78 posted on 10/21/2012 10:43:38 AM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: chessplayer

Last year's champions of the European Bowl were the Schwabisch Hall Unicorns.

http://www.deviantart.com/download/210567108/schwabisch_hall_unicorns_by_pe4kin89-d3hd6mc.png

I can't remember how to post pictures!!! " < img src ? "

I've been away awhile.

79 posted on 10/21/2012 10:50:42 AM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: SVTCobra03

Well, I do like’m tall.


80 posted on 10/21/2012 10:52:38 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: chargers fan
If there aren't rules involving Erin, there should be. Here, let me help:


81 posted on 10/21/2012 10:53:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: FreedomPoster
Lacrosse has everything soccer does not

Except fans. Had to be pointed out.

82 posted on 10/21/2012 10:55:36 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Perdogg

ping


83 posted on 10/21/2012 11:25:26 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: freedumb2003

get rid of all pro sports. they all make zillions of dollars playing kid game and even tickets to a KU game are $79.00. how on earth can you even take your family out to the ball game


84 posted on 10/21/2012 12:02:17 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

>>get rid of all pro sports. they all make zillions of dollars playing kid game<<

Those of us who believe in capitalism want the market to decide what stays and what goes.

I will pay a LOT of MY money to see an NFL game. Because, you know, it is MY money.


85 posted on 10/21/2012 12:09:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: catfish1957

I saw a black & white photo years ago, taken in the early 50s IIRC. It showed a quarterback with a broken leg. Looking down on him was the guy who tackled him - smiling.

Ah, when football was football...


86 posted on 10/21/2012 12:24:48 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: chessplayer
Professional football has been America’s favorite spectator sport since 1972 when baby boomers became the most important TV audience demographic.

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Pro football, depicted by Mr. Sabol as a confrontation between good and evil in which there can be only one winner, matched the values of baby boomers a half century ago.

Jeez, there's a lot to wonder about in those sentences. A lot of the early fans were pre-boomers. The "greatest generation" and the "silent generation" were still an important demographic in the seventies.

The archetypal baby-boomers (student radicals and hippies -- never a majority, but certainly the people who come to mind when we think of baby boomers) may not have had the kind of relation to competitive sports that the writer says. A lot of the attitudes he attributes to "millenials" go back to those boomers.

87 posted on 10/21/2012 12:34:14 PM PDT by x
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To: FreedomPoster
Play Rugby!

In rugby we don't mess around we eat our dead!

That was a bumper sticker I used to have!
Yes I am crass & tasteless ! (Give me a break ! I played in the front 3 of "the pack"!)
I have improved somewhat with age due to aperiodic “training sessions” from my wife.
She tells me that with time I will eventually be fit for polite society.

88 posted on 10/21/2012 12:38:40 PM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: dfwgator
Sort of like Aussie Rules, but I think the Irish game flows better.

Saw some Aussie Rules on cable. Couldn't figure out what was going on. It looked like the torments of the damned -- players writhing in agony all across the field. Every once in a while a player kicked the ball through some posts and won a random quantity of points. Maybe if I knew the rules, I'd appreciate it more.

89 posted on 10/21/2012 12:40:07 PM PDT by x
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To: Vigilantcitizen
I don’t know about other parts of the country...but there is no shortage of youth playing organized football here.

Same around here. Friday night HS football is a big deal in my part of PA. Local TV and radio stations broadcast the games, there are traffic jams. In the town square of the little Lancaster County town I work in, they put posters of the local HS football team players on the street light posts, most of the players are white FWIW. The first time I drove through town and saw one of the posters, I thought it was a missing child poster, then I saw another and another.. : )

90 posted on 10/21/2012 12:51:26 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: freedumb2003

well glad you are ready to spring for it, I wouldn’t give those barbarians one thin dime. I take it you are a red blooded American male. I am a female and they can keep their stupid “professional” sports. Pay for if you want, gramps. I personally don’t think paying some thug a zillion dollars to hurt someone in public view is worthwhile. Do you buy porn too? Illegal drugs? Illegal sex? Should we just let the “market” dictate all that too? Where do we draw the line oh wise one...


91 posted on 10/21/2012 1:13:48 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
Do you buy porn too? Illegal drugs? Illegal sex? Should we just let the “market” dictate all that too? Where do we draw the line oh wise one...

You are equating illegal drugs with perfectly legal sports?

Get a grip, hon.

But you are the kind that also wants to ban toys in Happy Meals and drinks greater than 16 ounces. If you make them illegal then they are just like drugs.

Where do YOU draw the line, oh Nanny Stater?

92 posted on 10/21/2012 1:17:12 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: x
Every once in a while a player kicked the ball through some posts and won a random quantity of points. Maybe if I knew the rules, I'd appreciate it more.

No. you have the rules correctly. It like a looser version of Brockian Ultra-Cricket... :)

93 posted on 10/21/2012 1:19:19 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: freedumb2003

I love Big Gulps and I bought tons of toys and Happy Meals, so your beady little mind can’t tell me what to think. And my kids know how to backpack and shoot skeet. Guess what, you can’t lay a finger on me with your macho spiel. I have a football player son and the good coaches played smart, the dumb ones played tough. I have a son who boxed and did ROTC. My girl skates, plays field hockey and lacrosse. And they all ski and underwater dive. Oh, by the way, I like tennis and skiing and weigh 109, and am practically perfect in every way except one——————don’t suffer fools gladly.

Watch who you call Nanny, Gramps


94 posted on 10/21/2012 1:24:33 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: KoRn

Totally agree.


95 posted on 10/21/2012 1:32:16 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: yldstrk

So you draw your nanny State mind at only the sports you don’t like, right Practically Perfect Polyanna?

I know your type. Too well.


96 posted on 10/21/2012 1:34:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: chessplayer

Congratulations, liberal moms and dads. You just raised the next generation of Vichy French.


97 posted on 10/21/2012 1:35:08 PM PDT by Sirius Lee
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To: cripplecreek

Ha! Just posted that to Facebook!

So true!


98 posted on 10/21/2012 1:38:27 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: freedumb2003

there should be more like me and less abusive and depraved mothers and wives and this world would be a better place. Clean up your act and you would appreciate the few like me


99 posted on 10/21/2012 1:41:04 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: bannie
I was raised in the 50’s & ‘60’s...our mama’s didn’t even know where WE were!

Or even cared as long as we were in the front yard when the streetlights came on.

100 posted on 10/21/2012 1:41:48 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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