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So....We like Paul Ryan?
self | august 11, 2012 | beebuster2000

Posted on 08/11/2012 5:32:45 AM PDT by beebuster2000

So what about freepers? we like paul ryan? i like what he says, i just wonder if all Romney has done is given a bigger target to he whose name may not be spoken.


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To: muawiyah

Not sure.

However Romney is now the nominee, for all intents and purposes.

Period.

It’s Romney and Ryan, or four more years of Obama.

America cannot stand four more years of Obama. We’re already broke.

We’ll be ruined.

Get over whatever it is, which has you in such a state. If you want to start campaigning against Romney (I might be with you, will see first) then so so AFTER we defeat Obama.

That is less than 100 days from today.

Focus please.


251 posted on 08/11/2012 8:16:30 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: MEG33

Now just how do you expect to do that with Romney?


252 posted on 08/11/2012 8:16:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You are mentally ill.

Project much?

253 posted on 08/11/2012 8:18:45 AM PDT by hcmama
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254 posted on 08/11/2012 8:21:24 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: muawiyah
Run a primary in Virginia that has some candidates and i’ll tell you. Given a choice between a fool and a crook..... that’s not a choice.

You've already said the second part. You're avoiding.

OK, my primary has all people who are eligible. Hundreds of millions of people. Which one or two are you going to vote for?

255 posted on 08/11/2012 8:25:30 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: muawiyah
This is not a zero sum game.

Unfortunately, for your position, it is a zero sum game. Either Romney will win and Obama will lose or the opposite of that. There are no other possible outcomes.

Vote for who you like but if it is not Romney then it is a plus for Obama.

Period.

256 posted on 08/11/2012 8:26:52 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: muawiyah; mplsconservative
Sorry, you don't pay for pensions received by retired postal employees.

The system isn't set up like your little rinky dink school board deal where they just shovel the bucks out in the street

muawiyah, you could be Bob Beckel's best friend forever! You share a sneering, condescending style with him. I'll bet you're all puffed up and dress like it's still the 1970s like he does too. LOL

257 posted on 08/11/2012 8:28:00 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: mplsconservative
Oh, the 'hypocrite' thing? Hypocrisy is something in the mind of the one who imagines he sees it. It's a delusion ~ sometimes surgery to relieve the pressure of a tumor will help.

You might not think it's a serious problem with you, but Mohammad was driven to death threats and said 'Kill the hypocrites" ~ your friendly neighborhood baby killing liberal friends also would like to 'kill' those of whom they suspect hypocrisy but everybody else in this country is armed to the teeth so don't any of you guys get any ideas you can get away with it.

I had money taken from my AFTER TAX INCOME to pay for my pension. That came out of my pocket, not yours. In fact, the type of objection you're making suggests you regularly entered mail without paying postage. It's not too late to 'fess up you know.

But USPS didn't run on federal tax dollars ~ they operated on the fees charged for mail services. My salary, and therefore my pension, arose out of that conjunction of need and service. That you still think you own postal employees is a topic for another time ~ in the meantime read the 13th Amendment over a few times ~ you lost that war.

258 posted on 08/11/2012 8:29:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: arasina

Some of you deserve being sneered at.


259 posted on 08/11/2012 8:30:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: InterceptPoint
It's entirely possible to throw this election into the House of Representatives. All it takes is a tie between the two main candidates with one guy somewhere else getting a single electoral vote.

The numbers are showing the election is probably close enough to do that.

260 posted on 08/11/2012 8:32:18 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

It has been said on this site. Also, people who plan on voting for Romney have been called Satanist.


261 posted on 08/11/2012 8:34:38 AM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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To: Perdogg

i suppose so ~ but in the context of a discussion where we have some claiming it’s unChristian to criticize Romney, it’s fair to make such a retort.


262 posted on 08/11/2012 8:37:59 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: InterceptPoint
Unfortunately, for your position, it is a zero sum game. Either Romney will win and Obama will lose or the opposite of that. There are no other possible outcomes.

Vote for who you like but if it is not Romney then it is a plus for Obama.

Period.

Exactly. Why can't some people see that? They act like it's still Primary season! Maybe we should have some little rubber bracelets made up that are engraved with WWSD (What Would Sarah Do) and they can wear them while they watch the GOP convention. The "changing horses in midstream" scenario is no longer possible because we're well beyond the midstream point.

263 posted on 08/11/2012 8:38:38 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: EternalVigilance; All

Sorry, you can fantasy world all you like. The reality is that the avergae joe cares more about getting a job. Not sending the military to shut down abortion clinics which is still legal to be open...


264 posted on 08/11/2012 8:40:28 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: Jay Redhawk

point of order ~ Democrats who were loyal? Lurch was loyal? Gore was loyal? His old man ran the supplemental retirement fund for the KGB.


265 posted on 08/11/2012 8:40:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; All

I hope the USPS goes away.. UPS or Fed Ex can do a better job then the USPS.


266 posted on 08/11/2012 8:42:45 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: muawiyah

“But USPS didn’t run on federal tax dollars ~ they operated on the fees charged for mail services. My salary, and therefore my pension, arose out of that conjunction of need and service.”

Sorry if I’m missing something in your post about the USPS “not running on Federal $s” and your “salary & pension arose out of fees charged for mail services”, but....

“Postal Service on tap for $11B break in 2012 budget
By Ed O’Keefe

President Obama’s proposed 2012 budget doesn’t say anything about raising stamp prices, ending Saturday mail deliveries or closing post offices, but it does attempt to remedy the perilous financial condition of the U.S. Postal Service by recommending about $11 billion in relief.

With mail volume and revenues plummeting, the Postal Service is on course to lose about $7 billion in the fiscal year that ends in September. The losses are due in part to hefty personnel costs not borne by other federal agencies. One is a requirement, imposed by a 2006 law, that it set aside money each year to cover the costs of future health insurance benefits for its retired workers.”

>snip

“The Postal Service also pays into the federal retirement fund to pay the future annuity costs for its retirees. Estimates by the Office of Personnel Management suggest USPS has overpaid the fund by about $6.9 billion. Obama’s budget would refund that amount over 30 years, beginning with a $550 million payment in fiscal 2012.”

more here:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2011/02/postal_service_on_tap_for_11_b.html


267 posted on 08/11/2012 8:43:40 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: muawiyah
Some of you deserve being sneered at.

ROFL

What a nice man you are, mooey.

268 posted on 08/11/2012 8:43:52 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: KevinDavis

It’s interesting how the inane “jobs, jobs, jobs” talking point is 100% interchangeable between the Republican and the Democrat parties.


269 posted on 08/11/2012 8:45:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: Seattle Conservative

USPS is actually overpaid more like $79 billion. The Obama budget was rejected by the Senate and House. None of that happened.


270 posted on 08/11/2012 8:46:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Stupid is as stupid does! ... Forest Gump

Exactly!


271 posted on 08/11/2012 8:46:37 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: arasina

I could be nicer but you don’t deserve it. And say, get off my lawn!


272 posted on 08/11/2012 8:47:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
It's entirely possible to throw this election into the House of Representatives. All it takes is a tie between the two main candidates with one guy somewhere else getting a single electoral vote. The numbers are showing the election is probably close enough to do that.

I actually have a practical plan to make that possible. Stay tuned.

273 posted on 08/11/2012 8:48:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: muawiyah
Still can't get my vote ~ not even if he had Jesus running with him.

When you say stupid things like this it just reinforces the fact that are you acting like a stubborn crybaby determined to go forward with a whiny temper tantrum.

274 posted on 08/11/2012 8:51:26 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: beebuster2000

Paul Ryan is a quality hire - exceptionally competent and dynamic. This bodes well for governance.

One of Romney’s trademarks at Bain was in recruiting and cultivating talent. Two of our greatest Presidents - Ronald Reagan and George Washington - were exceptional in their ability to pick quality people for top jobs, and give them the authority and support to excel.

On the stage after Ryan’s announcement, I got the impression of Romney as a senior executive with that kind of emotional security and maturity - to manage for the long term good of the organization.

He seemed confident in Ryan, and content to let him take some limelight - almost like a proud parent.

This also shows that he is not averse to recruiting TEA Party favorites and principled conservatives for top jobs.

The potential exists for a “Dream Team” administration.

Personnel is policy, as they say in D.C.

I am so stoked!


275 posted on 08/11/2012 8:55:00 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: muawiyah

“As it is the GOP-e made an irremediable error for which they and their running dog lackeys will continue to pay for decades!”

Unfortunately, purists in this group want all of the country to pay for decades. I don’t know — tear it down to build it up thinking? Gotta hit rock bottom with obama before building back up? I don’t understand the logic of sitting out the election and possibly letting that Marxist get a second term other than the “let the whole thing burn down” thinking.


276 posted on 08/11/2012 8:57:11 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: Londo Molari
You people don't seem to understand coalition politics. Social conservatives don't need to like you nor respect you for your peculiarities, but we do expect you to come up with candidates generally acceptable to just about all the coalition members.

This is just about 12 times you've violated coalition rules over the last 80 years.

I say enough is enough!

You've done it again, and this guy is the one candidate with a probability of actually losing to Obama, the worst President in the last two centuries!

277 posted on 08/11/2012 9:01:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Longbow1969; All

I was for Newt and absolutely hate Romney. I vowed I would not vote for Romney, but Obama has forced my hand.
If we don’t vote Romney, we will have 4 more years of Holders brand of justice and Obamas executive orders, both of which cannot be overcome by a Republican majority in both houses.

Vote for America. It’s like doing something outside your comfort zone to save a loved one. Or would you let your most cherished love one perish because of your “standards”?


278 posted on 08/11/2012 9:05:59 AM PDT by paintriot (I've seen too much.....)
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To: Longbow1969
You still can't get my vote. You picked a loser ~ so he loses.

We'll be revisiting all of this the day after the election.

279 posted on 08/11/2012 9:07:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mountain Mary

“Ryan is going to be hard to replace as head of the House budget committee. They better find another fiscal hawk.”

I know; but I imagine the calculation in that regard was that as far as “safe” seats to put up for election, there was more room for risk in the House than in the Senate (numbers count).

Like you, I also hope Ryan’s type of resolve on fiscal sanity has a number of “back ups” in the House ready to step up and fill the gap he will leave.


280 posted on 08/11/2012 9:13:43 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: PapaBear3625

I think Ryan is the better choice. Some Freepers think Rubio would lure some Hispanic voters away from the Dem camp, but I think that would work about as well as an Alan West candidacy luring Dem black voters, namely not very well at all.

A Rubio candidacy would mainly attract Hispanic voters by an implicit promise of amnesty, or other favorable treatment of Hispanics, and would turn off the conservative base more than it would help with Hispanics.


Yes...Good points

Rubio also is Cuban...and that does not sell at all in the Mexican-Amer and Puerto Rican communities...not at all.

Rubio supporters like him because they support Illegal Alien Amnesty, plain and simple

Ryan was a good pick


281 posted on 08/11/2012 9:13:43 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Just because someone has an "R" next to their name, does not make them a Conservative)
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To: InterceptPoint

“In the end nobody votes for vice president,” said Gov. Chris Christie. “No matter who Governor Romney picks they’re not voting for him.”

By the same token, no one will vote for Obama because of Vice President Joe Biden, he said.

“No one’s saying ‘I’m not sure about this Obama guy but, boy, I love Biden,’” Christie cracked.

__________________________________________________________

While Christie may secretly be disappointed he wasn’t picked...he may be spot on with this quip.


282 posted on 08/11/2012 9:16:27 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: muawiyah

I believe it is pretty obvious that Obama is different from the democrat presidents of the past. Clinton was/is a sleaze bag, Carter was/is an idiot, Johnson was lying progressive, Kennedy was a whore mongerer, Truman a progressive, Roosevelt a progressive liar, and Wilson was a racist among other things. None of these presidents, however, had an active agenda to destroy the United States like Obama has. They were all misguided, hell they were/are democrats,but none of them were intentionally out to destroy this nation. Obama is an entirely new breed of cat, and he ain’t no pussy cat. His punk-ass needs to be out of office asap. If you would rather crap on the campfire then go ahead, but you are not helping the situation.


283 posted on 08/11/2012 9:18:14 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: Jay Redhawk

You’re the guy running the loser. Don’t be so highminded and selfrighteous about that.


284 posted on 08/11/2012 9:21:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 4everontheRight

Yup, I am good to go with Ryan. I was deathly afraid he would select Pawlenty, or worse, Portman. The team is now in place. Let’s get behind them. Bozo must go!


285 posted on 08/11/2012 9:27:13 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: beebuster2000
What Catholic Vote said about Paul Ryan yesterday:
 
Paul Ryan, Representative from Wisconsin's 1st District  

Life
Co-sponsored the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act.

Voted to amend the health care law so that no federal funds may be used to pay for any part of any healthcare plan that offers abortion coverage.

Voted for the Abortion Pain Bill and the Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act.

Voted to prohibit partial birth abortion.

Marriage
Voted for a resolution proposing a constitutional amendment that would define marriage as the union between one man and one woman.

Voted against repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.

Religious liberty
Voted for the Religious Liberty Protection Act of 1999.

On the HHS mandate: “This is much, much bigger than about contraception. This is about religious freedom, First Amendment rights, and how this progressive philosophy of fungible rights of a living breathing constitution really clashes and collides with these core rights that we built our society and country around.”

Embryonic life
Voted against the Stem Cell Research Act of 2007, which would have required the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services to conduct and support research on embryonic stem cells.

Voted in favor of developing methods to produce stem cells without using human embryos.

School choice
Voted in favor for school vouchers in Washington, D.C.


286 posted on 08/11/2012 9:28:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: muawiyah
I don't like Romney. Herman Cain and Michele Bachman were my choices followed by Rick Santorum. But the reality is that Romney is the only one left in this presidential race that has a chance to beat the punk Obama. If a third party had a chance I would gladly support it. Paul Ryan at least makes it easier for me to stomach Mitt Romney. Obama’s anti-American, activist agenda needs to be stopped. Romney is not a good choice, but Obama is bloody damn evil.
287 posted on 08/11/2012 9:43:05 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: beebuster2000

Group-think makes me sick!


288 posted on 08/11/2012 9:46:18 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: beebuster2000

Group-think makes me sick!


289 posted on 08/11/2012 9:46:22 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: muawiyah
If you get a tax deferred savings account you are being subsidized by the government

Being allowed to keep more of my income is a government subsidy? No wonder you love Obama so much; you sound just like him.

290 posted on 08/11/2012 9:46:30 AM PDT by kevao
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To: SeminoleCounty
Rubio also is Cuban...and that does not sell at all in the Mexican-Amer and Puerto Rican communities...not at all.

The Cuban-American community is primarily composed of the middle class which fled Cuba rather than live under socialism. Yes, you are correct that they are not a natural Dem constituency.

291 posted on 08/11/2012 9:50:58 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: muawiyah
You still can't get my vote. You picked a loser ~ so he loses.

No, I didn't pick a loser. Nor did most people here. I was for Perry and then Newt. Almost no one on FR wanted Romney. Yet he won. We didn't get our way. Now you can refuse to vote for the nominee or suck it up and vote for him as the only candidate that has any chance of beating Obama. Some dislike Willard so much that they just won't vote for him. I get that. Many felt the same about McCain, even with Palin on the ticket. There is some of that every election cycle. Some people will always sit out or waste their votes on 3rd party candidates.

But saying things like you won't vote for Romney even if Jesus Christ is on the ticket makes you sound like nothing but a butthurt crybaby who didn't get his way rather than a rational, logical person.

292 posted on 08/11/2012 9:53:54 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: muawiyah

Give it a rest alright.

You already killed one Romney thread.


293 posted on 08/11/2012 9:56:52 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: G Larry
No, you are in the wrong on this one....one can state they are 'converted' but the proof is in the pudding so to speak. Just look at the dems, nearly every one claims to be a Christian, but vote like they belong to satan. The dem Bible thumpers that come to my door get short shrift, because I confront them about their supporting criminals for election and genocide of the unborn. They take off like scalded cats.

Words are just words, it is DEEDS that count. Politicians lie all the time, they say what they think people want to hear. Messages are tailored to each audience. Liberal went to progressive i.e. for an example. Right has become wrong, and wrong has become right.

So quit attacking MY Christian beliefs because you are a rombeybot.

294 posted on 08/11/2012 9:58:08 AM PDT by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: Kansas58

Your comment is pointless. My budget would move more quickly toward a Constitutional budget than even Rand Paul’s. That budget wouldn’t be passed; Paul’s won’t be passed; and Ryan’s will not be passed and implemented over 20 years even if it were to pass.


295 posted on 08/11/2012 9:59:45 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You just don’t want to hear it ~ you stuck us with a loser. There’s nothing to celebrate.


296 posted on 08/11/2012 10:02:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Longbow1969

There’s a double entendre in there you’ve missed completely.


297 posted on 08/11/2012 10:03:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Give it a rest.

Save up your hostility for after November 7th, when you can start rooting for another alternative.

Right now you got Obama, and Romney with his brand new conservative, young, bright VP.

Pick one.


298 posted on 08/11/2012 10:05:24 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: beebuster2000

Ryan is ok, but nothing could make me vote for his socialist running mate.


299 posted on 08/11/2012 10:09:23 AM PDT by Waryone
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To: beebuster2000
Paul Ryan is an okay choice. I like him much better than a Portman or Pawlenty pick, and would've prefered him at the top of the ticket.

Can he light a fire in people who can't stand Romney?
Enough to make them blind to the things about Romney that will make them ignore the top of the ticket or stay home?
I'm not sure about that.
300 posted on 08/11/2012 10:24:06 AM PDT by novemberslady
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