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Brain dead patients could be kept alive to harvest their organs for NHS
The Telegraph ^ | July 27, 2012 | Stephen Adams

Posted on 07/28/2012 9:42:26 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Hospitals could be allowed to keep patients with massive brain injuries alive solely to harvest their organs, under controversial plans being floated by the NHS.

The 19 million people on the Organ Donation Register could also be given preference in the event of needing an organ, over those who are not.

These are two of the proposals mooted in a consultation being carried out by NHS Blood and Transplant this summer.

NHSBT is canvassing views from health professionals and the public on these and other ideas in the online survey, which closes on September 21. If put into practice they would represent large-scale changes to the way transplant is undertaken.

The survey asks whether doctors should be able to keep alive patients with catastrophic brain damage, for example due to head injury or stroke, who will not survive, solely for the purpose of organ donation.

Patients approaching death are often put on artificial ventilation for a short period to enable their relatives to say goodbye.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: braindead; deathpanel; nhs; obama; obamacare; organdonors; romney; romneycare

1 posted on 07/28/2012 9:42:31 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
All you organ are belong to us.
2 posted on 07/28/2012 9:46:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Then what? Soylent Green?


3 posted on 07/28/2012 9:46:21 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The NHS treats people like crop....whats new


4 posted on 07/28/2012 9:47:27 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Too bad they didn’t have a bunch of brain-dead patients in those giant government hospitals during the Olympic opening. Instead of bouncing kids, they could have had the nurses playing catch with hearts, livers, kidneys and lungs.


5 posted on 07/28/2012 9:47:47 AM PDT by Adams (Fight on!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Brain dead? That's 80% of their population!

"Hello...uhh...can we have your liver?" "What?" "Your liver...ahhh...it's a large...aaah...glandular organ in your ab-do-men."

6 posted on 07/28/2012 9:48:39 AM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wow, that could have made an interesting act for the Olympic opening ceremonies


7 posted on 07/28/2012 9:52:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This isn't new. Back in the Seventies, Harpers magazine had a long article in favor of this, in which the brain dead were referred to as "neo morts".

Robin Cook based his book Coma on the article, and the resulting movie gave Tom Selleck his first shot at stardom.

This has been around a while.

8 posted on 07/28/2012 9:55:28 AM PDT by Publius (Leadershiup starts with getting off the couch.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I smell big money.


9 posted on 07/28/2012 9:58:24 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Apparently, for those transplant candidates in the UK, it should be noted that the country doesn’t have a kidney bank.

But they do have a liver pool.


10 posted on 07/28/2012 10:00:36 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Back in the 90s while developing software for blood banking, I was surprised to discover that it was not uncommon to administer blood transfusions to dead patients. If a patient is brain dead (IOW would not survive unaided for more than a few minutes), they would keep them on life support until their organs could be harvested. It was usually only a day or two and the goal was to ensure that the organs would be viable.


11 posted on 07/28/2012 10:01:51 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If NHS should run out of brain-dead patients, we would graciously welcome them to our Democrats.


12 posted on 07/28/2012 10:02:01 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Oopsie, we used the wrong anesthesia and now the patient is brain dead. Let's turn this mistake into a win by harvesting organs...
13 posted on 07/28/2012 10:06:44 AM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

http://movies.nytimes.com/2010/09/15/movies/15never.html?pagewanted=all

`Never Let Me Go.’ Cutting through all the bollocks, in this dystopian novel the average life span is 100 because children are raised to serve as organ donors for ailing Brits.


14 posted on 07/28/2012 10:19:24 AM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Squawk 8888

I worked in a 72 bed OR that was a major transplant center. Virtually all the nurses I worked with, including myself, refused to be organ donors. Viable organs can’t be harvested from a dead body.


15 posted on 07/28/2012 10:30:36 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We should have worked NHS organ harvesting into the Olympic opening somehow.


16 posted on 07/28/2012 10:33:51 AM PDT by agere_contra (Vote ABO. Don't choose the Greater Evil and then boast about how principled you are)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I read the article and did not see one mention of the term - “at the family’s request”. Therefore I conclude the State would decide and carry out this “harvesting” and “cannibalization” independent of the family’s wishes.


17 posted on 07/28/2012 10:37:29 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How insulting!

“.....at a cost of accepting lower quality organs from older, fatter people...”


GRUMPH!

ACTUALLY, us “Older, Fatter” people supply very HIGH QUALITY organs!

Just think on it ...
1. our organs are very well nutritioned, and
2. our organs are very well protected...

all this extra quality is provided by the very extra layers of “fat” the article objects to.

Is there a Trades Libel solicitor in the house?


18 posted on 07/28/2012 10:38:45 AM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wasn’t there a movie about this?

COMA (1978)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077355/


19 posted on 07/28/2012 10:54:14 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just another reason why I’m not an organ donor.


20 posted on 07/28/2012 10:54:14 AM PDT by peggybac
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The state does not own you!!


21 posted on 07/28/2012 11:06:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I guess the NHS couldn’t work that nightmare scenario into their dance number at the Olympics last night. That “Dance of Death” would have been really spooky.


22 posted on 07/28/2012 11:12:49 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Sacajaweau

” The state does not own you!!”

Might actually depend on what SCJ John Roberts says...

(Not a comforting thought. :~)


23 posted on 07/28/2012 11:25:04 AM PDT by moovova (Chic-fil-A is good...and right.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Now it all makes sense.


24 posted on 07/28/2012 11:43:50 AM PDT by Pilsner
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Brain dead patients could be kept alive to harvest their organs for NHS

The British would be smart to hunt down whoever made these statements and harvest their organs...today or tomorrow.

25 posted on 07/28/2012 11:59:50 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“The Dosadi Experiment” by Frank Herbert is one step closer to reality.


26 posted on 07/28/2012 1:33:32 PM PDT by Sparky21555
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To: Free ThinkerNY; nikos1121; cajungirl; sheik yerbouty; socialismisinsidious; GailA; Liz; ...
Just think of all the interesting possibilities for the advancement of medical science under socialized medicine(NHS)./sarc

Remember the chilling novel and film "Coma" from back in the 1970s? Well, it seems as if the British socialists are about to experiment with a real life version of it, or what could morph into one. Sick!!!

And don't think it won't be coming soon to a hospital near you unless Obamacare is repealed.

27 posted on 07/31/2012 1:52:16 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Indeed. Thanks for the ping!


28 posted on 07/31/2012 9:22:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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