What am I Missing? [Vanity}

self | 6 July 2012 | self

[ShadowAce]

OK, this was this first thing that sprung to mind last week when SCOTUS announced its decision. Since then, I've been surprised by both the Administration's response and the media. No one has brought this up:

Since the opinion read like Obamacare is only constitutional as a tax and not under the Commerce Clause, and since (to my utter surprise) everyone in the administration insists on calling it a penalty and not a tax, doesn't that make the whole law unconstitutional?

Why is everyone going along with the idea that the law is OK no matter what it is called when the ruling made it very clear it is OK only as a tax?

Doesn't this give Congress the go-ahead to nullify it even without a vote?

[atc23]

Oh, brother this explains alot"

The federal government (and their constitution)is not the neighborhood policeman sent to bash the states over the head. It’s the other way around.

The constitution, in part or in whole, if it interferes with sovereign states rights, becomes invalid with regard to those amendments which are deemed to be at odds with individual liberty.

You can roll your eyes all you want but the fact remains that for too long, We the People have been abused to such an extent by the federal programming, we've become a hostage to our own inaction with regard to confronting the monster which is entirely within our rights to do so. I'm as guilty as anyone.

If Judge Roberts did anything well last week, it was surely this unintentional wake up call to a lazy and ignorant population.

[NTHockey]

Why do you need to depend on elected officials? All of us MUST have the courage to stand up to this monster we have allowed to overrun us. Our founding fathers risked their health, their wealth and even their very lives to gain our freedom from oppression. Are we so enslaved by our creature comforts that we would not do the same?

If we are not willing to keep our freedoms, then we deserve the chains of slavery.

“I know not what course others may take; but as for me... give me liberty or give me death!” Patrick Henry

[A'elian' nation]

Yes, that’s exactly what happened and you explained it artfully.

My question is, short of outright repeal, how far can the new House of Representatives go (providing it is in our hands ) in just refusing to fund all of its provisions. In other words unTax or defund the dang thing?

A new Congress is not beholden to the taxing policies of the previous one.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”The constitution, in part or in whole, if it interferes with sovereign states rights, becomes invalid with regard to those amendments which are deemed to be at odds with individual liberty.”

And you claim the states have the sole authority to make that determination within their boundaries? Anything they may define as 'individual liberty' ???

[sickoflibs]

RE :”The constitution, in part or in whole, if it interferes with sovereign states rights, becomes invalid with regard to those amendments which are deemed to be at odds with individual liberty.”

How about the federal income tax via the 16th amendment? Do you pay that? Or does your state arrest the IRS when they come a knockin?

[Never on my watch]

Why do you need to depend on elected officials?

I don't.

All of us MUST have the courage to stand up to this monster we have allowed to overrun us. Our founding fathers risked their health, their wealth and even their very lives to gain our freedom from oppression. Are we so enslaved by our creature comforts that we would not do the same?

I couldn't agree more with that sentiment. In fact I fully expect that will soon see how our generation measures up with the patriots of the past.

I just dread the fact that we have to go through these turmoils when the elected officials don't do their job. Every bit of this was avoidable.

[OneWingedShark]

Another thing that is confusing to me is that the Repubs insist on calling this a tax and saying that the Admin is lying. Accept what the Admin is saying and then nullify the law!

That's the easiest way of getting rid of this thing.

You're assuming the republican-party wants to repeal ObamaCare, I'm not so sure this is the case.

I mean look at their track-record on striving for party-planks, things like responsible spending (hey, guess what there hasn't been a budget in years, despite being mandated by law... yet nobody in the party leadership is making a stink about it), government accountability (Fast and Furious; enough said), ending legalized abortion (didn't even so much as propose a resolution when Bush was President and the Republican-party controlled the Legislature), anointing Romney (nothing says "we're different" like tapping someone just the same as the leftist you claim to be against).