Spin it all they want, but the monster still lives.
It’s like a French battlefield around here lately, with all the white flags being waved.
ping...
This guy nails it to the wall.
I posted this on another thread. It’s applicable to the TAX conversation.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2901324/posts?page=21#21
It is not conservatives doing this spin. It is people with vested interests in electing Republicans.
The rallying cry of the party types is “Elections Have Consequences”
Well in Roberts we have yet another failed Republican SCourt appointee in a long line of failed appointees. If you don’t see a pattern here you are blind.
That is why the republican elite are spinning so desperately to make you think this is not a defeat, it’s actually a victory. I’m not falling for it.
Except now there can be up to 300 million victims with standing to force Obama to prove he is eligible.
Monckton tells Lords: Obama presidency at risk
From the report:
Attorneys for anyone accused of a criminal offence signed into statute by President Obama under Art. I, s. 7, have the right to request access by their forensic investigators to the Hawaii Health Department’s original birth record for Mr. Obama to satisfy them that the President is the President, the statute the statute and the alleged offence an offence. he suppression by the prosecution of evidence favorable to an accused upon request violates due process [14th Amdt.] where the evidence is material either to guilt or to punishment”. Therefore, the courts will be obliged to grant any such defence request. By the supremacy clause (Art. 6), Hawaii must comply.
By the precedent set in Brady v. Maryland (373 US 83, 1963), “T Does the issue matter? Advice from an eminent constitutional lawyer is that it does: “The Constitution is the supreme law of the US. We amend it, or we abide by it.” He expects a credible court challenge to the authenticity of Mr. Obama’s birth certificate soon. If it occurs, and if the certificate is a forgery, the constitutional consequences will be grave.
Standing, by virtue of direct, personal harm involved in a criminal indictment/conviction? What types of cases would this involve?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2900297/posts
Well, these same conservatives have also been trying desperately to convince themselves that Romney is some sort of paladin of constitutional conservatism, too, even though he’s obviously not.
Never underestimate the power of self-delusion.
I don't believe that Roberts is going to be returning to the bench in October. I predict some kind of health issue or family issue will cause him to resign before the next term.
Agreed. “Some conservatives” have developed a nasty case of battered women’s syndrome. It is truly and utterly pathetic to see otherwise intelligent men reduced to that level.
Oh, the silver lining is actually there. But it is tarnished, debased silver. The problem — and it is not a problem created by the Roberts Court — is that once the Sixteenth Amendment was added to the Constitution, the possibility of Congress taxing income, even laying a confiscatory tax on income, and waiving that tax if the income-earner engages in some action or other has been lurking in the Constitution as amended.
Of course, now that it’s legally and constitutionally considered a regressive income tax (the “penalty” is a percentage of AGI with a minimum — starting at $95 and rising to $695 per person over the course of a few years — and a maximum — the cost of the Federally defined “Bronze” insurance plan) someone needs to challenge the provision waiving it on religious grounds as a violation of the First Amendment (as interpreted by the courts in recent years).
What Roberts actually did was pull a sophoric rhetorical prank, committing a "semantic fallacy," arguing about, not what it means and what it does, but what we call it. Having called something a tax, when it is not a tax, he then further distorted what constitutes a permissible tax.
In my view Roberts grade shool diplomma should be revoked. His antics are of a kind that only a statist could pull, left wing or right wing does not really matter.
This is becoming more and more doable.
In other words, there isn't a snow balls chance.
MA sounds hysterical. Not one constructive idea regarding what to do about the situation. Just run in circles, scream and shout...especially at those who still have hope and are waiting to see the end of the matter.
If this is as bad as the doom-and-gloomers say it is, what do they propose to do to help fix the error? We already had the November elections scheduled and planned to vote against those who forced ObamaCare on us. It already had been approved by two branches of our government. What good does screaming at other conservatives do?
Since the Supreme Beings ruled that this is a tax, we only need the vote of 51 $inators to repel it with a Republican President to sign the bill.
Good post - the Bush cultists and Robertsbots are insane and ridiculous.
This is a disaster even worse than had they allowed the commerce clause argument to proceed.
Using the taxing power to expand the mandate opens a door and a danger beyond imagine.
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Every man has his price, what was Roberts’ price?
Things will keep getting worse until we quit voting for liberals. Because so many conservatives voted for McCain, GOP leaders felt free to nominate Romney. I shudder to think who GOP leaders will nominate in 2016 if conservatives vote for Romney.
Now is the time to draw the line! I’m voting for you this time, Tom.
No more RINO’s, no more liberals. The American people have had enough!