The Dangerous Self-Delusion of Some Conservatives

markamerica.com ^ | June 30. 2012 | Mark America

[aruanan]

The anti-Romney derangement is plain for all to see and you are one of the worst offenders.

Bump!

[sockmonkey]

We have our best and perhaps last opportunity to repeal Obamacare on November 6th.

Since Obamacare is my line in the sand, and I'm not looking forward to the consequences of my refusal to comply, you can be darned sure I will be voting for Romney on Nov. 6th, and I will be begging everyone I know to vote for him.

Romney wasn't my first choice, but it looks like he is going to be my only choice.

[Windflier]

Our God-given rights are NOT negotiable and that’s not subject to debate.

We are the resistance!!

We do not surrender, do not retreat. We reload!

Jim, you have no idea how refreshing and invigorating it is to hear your voice of clear conscience and rebellion again.

We are still on the same page. I refuse to sanction the election of a pro-homo 'marriage', big government statist, tax raising, left liberal appointing, gun grabbing, abortion mandating, lying ass liberal --- no matter WHAT party badge they wear.

Voting for Republicans In Name Only is what got us where we are today. Enough is enough. I refuse to be used like that ever again by the Republican party.

Too many frightened conservatives are ready to sell out their sacred principles to stop Obama from getting a second term. They're willing to hand over the White House to a man who is his virtual political twin, simply because he's sporting an R on his sleeve.

They fail to understand that more leftist legislation will get through a Republican dominated Congress with Romney in charge, than if the Democrats' man kept the job. They will fight Obama tooth and nail, but they're NOT going to stand up against the leader of their own party. They will give him everything he wants - just like they did for Bush.

If our nominee were simply a reliable Republican (let alone, a real conservative), I'd be waving my pom poms in full throated support right now, but the GOP expects me to do so for a documented big government liberal. WTF, over?

I'm sorry, but I won't be goaded, coerced, bullied, shamed, ridiculed, or shouted into voting for a man who has furthered the goals of the left for his entire political career.

[dragnet2]

Spelling and definition corrections? I’m confident even you got the initial message.~

By the way, voice recognition is good, but not yet perfect!

[Windflier]

It's a time for revolution. We have a constitutional right to refuse to live under tyranny. Our founding fathers made that clear.

Anyone who thinks that it's untrue that we are living under tyranny should look at the situation closer. We are dealing with a tyranny that's far greater, and clear for everyone to see, than that we faced the first time around for God's sake.

I'm not talking about an armed revolution, but one where states just stop obeying the demands of our federal government. States should work together, bypassing the federal government, while coming up with plans to confront the federal government by refusing their unconstitutional authority.

Once they do this they should not back down under any measures. All the way to letting the federal government know they can't regain power over the state without spilling blood.

[rogue yam]

They will give him everything he wants - just like they did for Bush.

The Congressional Republicans did not give Bush everything he wanted on immigration, on Harriet Miers, or on a number of other issues.

I don't recall having yet seen a Mitt hater stick to the facts for even a single post.

[Kazan]

As a matter of strategy, do you want Obama to retain the Presidency?

I don't want either Obama or Romney in the White House. But, I don't want Scott Walker or the equivalent in it in 2017. That isn't happening if Romney wins the election.

[Gene Eric]

>> I don’t want either Obama or Romney in the White House.

LOL, good luck with that, FRiend.

[Windflier]

The Congressional Republicans did not give Bush everything he wanted on immigration, on Harriet Miers, or on a number of other issues.

Try not to miss the central point, hm? I'm voicing my opinion on an internet forum, not attempting to precisely document George Bush's actual record.

The fact is, the Republican dominated Congress (with the help of the Democrats) gave Bush nearly everything he wanted during his two terms. On immigration and the Harriet Miers nomination, it was the people across America, burning up the phone lines to DC that stopped those things. Had we been silent, Congress would have likely given him those things too.

Bush never pushed a conservative agenda, and the Republicans in Congress never 'held his feet to the fire', like so many think they'll do with Romney.

And now that you mention it, yeah, I do hate Romney. The same way I hate all quisling traitors to our founding American ideals.

For all your pimping for Romney on this forum, I've yet to see you voice support for anything he's ever done in politics. I don't want to hear about things he's said. Words out of a politician's mouth aren't worth the air particles it takes to expel them. I want to know what he's DONE in his political career that you support.

[rogue yam]

For all your pimping for Romney on this forum, I've yet to see you voice support for anything he's ever done in politics.

You claim that I am "pimping for Romney on this forum" yet you admit that you've not yet seen me "voice support for anything he's ever done in politics".

You're going to have to explain that one yourself, pal.

[SoConPubbie]

The anti-Romney derangement is plain for all to see and you are one of the worst offenders.

I will not submit to your demands that I waste my time.

Got it!

So what you really are saying is that you can't find the necessary proof to back up YOUR false claim that:

Much of the campaigning for Obama that is being done here on FR these days is conducted in a way that I have thought to be irrational and dishonest. I have never found fault with anyone for preferring that Obama be re-elected in November, but I have objected strenuously to the unreason and falsehood contained in so many of the pro-Obama posts. Now, since the USSC Obamacare decision, we have the added elements of nihilism and despair in the mix. Well, I am opposed to these attitudes as well, and I forthrightly have said so and explained why on this thread.

So all we have is hot air from you; a worthless false accusation

[rogue yam]

...it was the people across America, burning up the phone lines to DC that stopped those things.

My position is that we still have the option of doing this today, and that we are far better organized for it now given the rise of the tea party movement and the development of the conservative blogosphere and twitterverse.

My whole pro-GOP argument all along for this election is that we promote conservatives in the primaries, then get Republicans into office on November 6th, and then work to build conservative consciousness within the GOP caucus once we have control of Congress and the White House.

So what is the alternative plan?

[SoConPubbie]

For all your pimping for Romney on this forum, I've yet to see you voice support for anything he's ever done in politics.

You claim that I am "pimping for Romney on this forum" yet you admit that you've not yet seen me "voice support for anything he's ever done in politics".

You're going to have to explain that one yourself, pal.

What you left out in your post to Windflier is illuminating in showing the continuing duplicity and dishonesty of Mitt Romney Supporters. I guess we really can't expect much more of Mitt Romney supporters since he is so dishonest himself.

The part you left out of your re-post of Windflier's post is what provides the necessary context(The part you left out is bolded):

For all your pimping for Romney on this forum, I've yet to see you voice support for anything he's ever done in politics. I don't want to hear about things he's said. Words out of a politician's mouth aren't worth the air particles it takes to expel them. I want to know what he's DONE in his political career that you support.

[rogue yam]

I don't want either Obama or Romney in the White House.

That's why you're campaigning against Romney. Got it.

[rogue yam]

I can’t decide who’s the worst, you or Diogenesis, or EternalVigilance.

Who do you think is worst?

[SoConPubbie]

I can’t decide who’s the worst, you or Diogenesis, or EternalVigilance.

Who do you think is worst?

Well, I think your weakness is dealing with honest people who will not sell their principles or their souls based on fear.

You have also made the mistake of supporting a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal on a conservative web-site devoted to defeating such candidates, even if they lie about being conservative. Their records always find them out as Romney's has here on FreeRepublic.

FreeRepublic is not a Republican website, unless the Republicans or Republican in question is actually a conservative.

You are pimping a defective product in Mitt Romney. His record proves him to be a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal.

This is YOUR problem, not OURS!

[rogue yam]

You have also made the mistake of supporting a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal

I do not believe that Mitt Romney is a left-wing, Progressive Liberal.

Neither do I think that he is an ideological conservative.

I think he is something else altogether, and that he previously pretended to be somewhat liberal in order to get ahead, just as he is now pretending to be somewhat conservative in order to get ahead.

Now Barack Obama, that guy is for sure a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal. That's why his Presidency has been such a disaster for America.

[SoConPubbie]

I think he is something else altogether, and that he previously pretended to be somewhat liberal in order to get ahead, just as he is now pretending to be somewhat conservative in order to get ahead.

Amazing...

Sorry, but his record LOUDLY proclaims him to be a Progressive Liberal whether or not you Hope that he will Change.

[itsahoot]

but the deed is done.

Right you are right. We come here and fall for the same tricks the WWE fans do every Saturday night.

It is a sad thing to see the country that won two world wars, fold up and die from within.

It was not one lousy Supreme Court judge that did us in, we have abandoned our God, now we have to answer up.

[rogue yam]

OK, you win.

You are the worst.