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Affordable Care Act SCOTUS Decision--Live Thread
SCOTUSblog ^ | June 28, 2012 | SCOTUSblog

Posted on 06/28/2012 4:56:21 AM PDT by John W

Today is the day. SCOTUSblog live at 8:45 AM.

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To: Colonel_Flagg
I also don’t feel that the best way to repeal Zerocare is by electing the guy who thought it up.

Ya think?

Let alone give him a mandate with a landslide! Because the fact that the landslide was actually a referendum against Obama, would be forgotten in six months and Romney, the GOP Establishment, moderates, and liberals would point to it as an overwhelming popular demand for Romney's "progressive style of governing." ABOers who never liked Romney but voted for him anyway in pure panic, would be petrified, just like the conservatives who would be paralyzed and powerless as a minority in Congress because of Romney's perceived "popular mandate" and combined support among moderate Republicans and Democrats.

That is when a lot of us here would be saying to ABOers, "Smooth move, Ex-Lax."

Pray for a plurality. VOTE for a plurality!

821 posted on 06/28/2012 2:54:32 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: John W

If you need to Zen out to some Country Music, here’s Don Williams, “I believe in you”

822 posted on 06/28/2012 3:22:07 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Individual Liberty, R.I.P, 6/28/2012)
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To: nutmeg; BlackElk; Pharmboy

No one seems to have an answer for me.

With this ruling how does it effect people like me with multiple health issues, but have extreme bad reactions to side effect riddled drugs these drug companies are pumping out. Can I be forced to purchase them as I am Medicare/TFL?

I have Fibromyalgia, Peripheral Neuropathy, and 3 other auto immunes, and there are few drugs I can take. The PCP would love to be able to force me onto muscle destroying Cholesterol meds. I’d be in a wheel chair with in a week. Last one he tried was Whelcol, 3 pills gout pain, 5 pills and I could barely walk.

I don’t want to be forced to purchase, much less take their crappy meds. Our income is fixed, we can’t afford these high co-pay drugs that can’t be taken because of horrid side effects, worse than the disease I have, and end up in the toilet.

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR RINO ROMNY! Evil is evil, even if it is the lesser of 2 evils.

13) Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14) For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

823 posted on 06/28/2012 3:25:07 PM PDT by GailA (IF U don't/won't keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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I am sorry your guilty conscience compels you to continue to attack me.

Perhaps when you compromise your principles to vote for The Father of Obamacare, The Mormon Bishop, Romney, then you will feel better. After all, we’ll need him to appoint conservative judges like GWB did, in giving us Roberts. May the odds be ever in your favor on that, my FRiend. TAXATION FOR SOCIALIZATION!!!! Woo-hoo! You’re backing a real winner there.

As for my stand, I simply shared God’s word with “Windy”. I suppose if you consider standing on clear truths hypocritical, well that is yours to grapple with.

Further, I get the distinct impression that you are quite alright with a person who claims to be a Christian calling another claiming the same, a bigot. The first is standing on principles dictated to him by the Republican party, and the second on principles dictated by God. The second is who is being called “bigot”.

Please, MHGinTN, tell me....are you calling me a bigot?

And secondly, is God a bigot, too? After all, isn’t it right and fair for us to choose which of His precepts matter? In God We Trust! Ha!!! What silliness./s/s/s/s/s

Does the term “lukewarm” ring a bell?

Humble yourself in the sight of the Lord, MHGinTN, and He will lift you up.

That’s all I’m saying. But you just don’t get it.

824 posted on 06/28/2012 3:32:52 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: All
From Sarah Palin:

"Thank you, SCOTUS. This Obamacare ruling fires up the troops as America’s eyes are opened! Thank God.

This proves to be such an unsettling time in America as we undergo the fundamental transformation that Barack Obama promised he would do to us if elected. Obamacare was dealt in deception and confusion by flooding the public with an overwhelming amount of conflicting “rationale” via thousands of pages of unread legislative detail, which is the radical left’s M.O. Obama promised the American people this wasn’t a tax and that he’d never raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000. We now see that this is the largest tax increase in history. It will slam every business owner and every one of the 50% of Americans who currently pay their taxes. The other 50% are being deceived if they think they’re going to get a free ride – because Medicaid is broke. Recipients of Obama’s “free health care” will have fewer choices and less accessibility. Trust me – this much more expensive health care WILL be rationed; to claim otherwise defies all economic and common sense.

We will not retreat on this. A newly elected legislative branch is key to defending our Republic and fundamentally restoring all that is good in America.

SCOTUS now rules this is a tax? Well, Congress has the ability to create taxes – and also has the ability to rescind them. Upon their return from the July recess, Congress should act immediately to repeal this terrible new tax on the American people, and indeed they must repeal all of Obamacare. This is the most brazen and sweeping new tax and government overreach imposed on us. We the People did not ask for this tax, we do not want this tax, and we can’t afford this tax. This is not an answer to America’s health care challenges.

It’s time, again, for patriotic Americans to rise up to protest this obvious infringement on our economic and personal freedom. November is just around the corner. Today, the Supreme Court issued their ruling on Obamacare. In November, We the People will issue ours." - Sarah Palin

Don't give up!

We are fully awake and ready to fight!

825 posted on 06/28/2012 3:39:35 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: butterdezillion; mickie; flaglady47; Bushbacker1; surfer; seekthetruth; seenenuf
You pose reasoned hypothesis and questions, Butter. I think your narrative comes closer to the truth about Roberts' weird mental processing of his final judicial opinion than most comments I've read....and certainly closer than Rush's personal, rather simplistic analysis.

I think playing a part was some latent psychological urge in Roberts' psyche to "become someone apart" in his midlife........which caused him to abruptly, impulsively switch at the last minute from his comfortable, publicly-perceived conservative persona......and hook on to the alluring bait of the leftist associate justices like a young carp going after a dough ball.


826 posted on 06/28/2012 3:42:04 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Chief Justice Judas- 30 pieces of silver of my tax money for your betrayal?)
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To: paul544

I see. Remarkably confused reporting, first we got “mandate struck down”, then we got that it was 6-3 to uphold the mandate as a tax, now it turns out it was 5-4 for that position and Roberts really did sell us out.

Brilliant: we now have completely unlimited government. All Congress has to do is impose a confiscatory tax on anyone who doesn’t comply with whatever they decide, and hey-presto, it’s not illegal to fail to comply, but you lose all your assets and livelihood to the IRS if you don’t, and get thrown in the slammer, not for failing to comply, but for tax evasion if you refuse to give them up.

827 posted on 06/28/2012 3:45:32 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: daisy mae for the usa

I was pointing out your hypocrisy, in doing exactly what you demand the poster not do. You impugn any voting for Rominy to oust little barry commie, then demand that the poster not impugn you for your voting choice. That’s hypocrisy and it doesn’t surprise me that you cannot see it. It’s called a blind spot of the soul.

828 posted on 06/28/2012 3:49:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: daisy mae for the usa

Guilty conscience? You really are a self-righteous hypocrite. Rave on exposing yourself.

829 posted on 06/28/2012 3:51:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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Blind spot of the soul...hypocrite....bigot....

Keep it coming. Sounds like you need someone to beat up today. Well, here I am.

And when you get done beating me, you’ll still be voting for a weak moral choice. my left cheek good and raw? Here’s my right....after that, how about my back......

830 posted on 06/28/2012 4:15:51 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Art in Idaho

Palin is right on!!! This ruling by the Supreme Court seals Obama’s defeat. The real important vote today is the criminal/civil indictment by the House of Representatives of Attorney General Eric Holder for the murder of two brave ATF agents and hundreds of innocent citizens of Mexico!!! And....the stupid Democrats marching out of the House to avoid voting. Dummies and losers, all!!! Ask the Democrats in Wisconsin. The American people are coming to you Obama to destroy you and the Democrat Party politically on November 6, 2012!!!

831 posted on 06/28/2012 4:59:19 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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I hope everyone is as seething as I am. I can’t wait until November. I’ll tell you what, though, win or lose, I feel the same way I did four years ago regarding the people who voted the Communist in Chief in.

They’re dead to me.

I have no humanity available for those people. If they’re in need on the side of the road, they’re not on the side of the road because I didn’t see anything. If they live in a particular city, that city doesn’t exist for me and I won’t be going there. I don’t want to know them, I don’t want to see them, I don’t want anything to do with them. They are worthy of nothing but contempt.

832 posted on 06/28/2012 5:06:43 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: GailA
I don't think this has anything to do with the drugs...they will still be prescribed by your doc, then, whoever pays for the drugs (Medicare, insurance companies) will decide whether or not they will pay for it. They will pay, or will offer an alternative drug.

Ultimately, it increases centralized power.

833 posted on 06/28/2012 5:10:09 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: nutmeg

I am puzzled by Roberts here, as well, but I watched Cavuto today, and he had on a commentator Charles — Dang! I can’t remember his last name right now, but I have seen him quite a few times, and he always leaves me impressed with his knowledge and common sense. His take is that Roberts made his ruling so that the voters would realize that they need to get this awful bill back to Congress to be dealt with. Cavuto told him that it was a crazy idea.

I believe that Roberts is a good guy, so I am just betting he knows something we don’t. Hard to say. Depressing turn of events.

834 posted on 06/28/2012 5:35:31 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: daisy mae for the usa

I wouldn’t touch you with Obama’s paws. Icky

835 posted on 06/28/2012 6:40:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: daisy mae for the usa
I wouldn't touch you with Obama's paws. Icky

You're another of the later 2008 sign ups. I suspect you are here trying your dnc best to suppress turnout and reduce the margin of a Milt Rominy vote so your dnc can cheat successfully, knowing your dnc cannot cheat and win if it is not close. You're still just a run of the mill self-righteous hypocrite.

836 posted on 06/28/2012 6:42:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Finny

Yeah, if your ilk can make it close then your dnc can chaet and win. Did you really think Freepers would not see through your whine?

837 posted on 06/28/2012 6:44:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Finny

Yeah, if your ilk can make it close then your dnc can cheat and win. Did you really think Freepers would not see through your whine?

838 posted on 06/28/2012 6:44:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: struggle


It’s Medicaid funds, not Medicare. This travesty of a law already has half a trillion dollars of Medicare cuts in it, but few people have been getting the word out on that. I pray the older, sensible group of our voters ALL learn about that before November.

839 posted on 06/28/2012 6:53:39 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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I feel really sorry for you. I have been praying for you since you first posted to me, and I will continue to do so. You’ve wasted your time with me, and now it is time for you to move on.

I loath the dnc, by the way. Not that it matters what you know about me, or think about me.

840 posted on 06/28/2012 7:29:12 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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