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1 posted on 06/24/2012 9:27:03 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Ignorance has been institutionalized as a national desideratum for years.

http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

Fed Dept of Ed anyone?


2 posted on 06/24/2012 9:34:11 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: neverdem

I think we have watched the Graph of Average IQ go from a BELL CURVE to more of a HOCKEY STICK.


3 posted on 06/24/2012 9:39:31 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: neverdem

One word: “irony”.


4 posted on 06/24/2012 10:00:10 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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>> Edison clung to direct current long after the advantages of Tesla’s alternating current was known.

As if to suggest he was an idiot for doing so.

Whatever, Donovan. The art of discovery is inevitably a factor of dogged ignorance.

Hail the wisdom of the beneficiaries... /s


7 posted on 06/24/2012 10:14:41 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: neverdem
Galileo capitulated when confronted with the received wisdom of the church...

Methinks Galileo capitulated when confronted with the prospect of being burned at the stake.

8 posted on 06/24/2012 10:19:30 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: neverdem
Read this. It's 10 years old, but it explains everything:

Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One’s Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments Journal of Personality and Social Psychology Selected Article © 1999 by the American Psychological Association For personal use only—not for distribution December 1999 Vol. 77, No. 6, 1121-1134

9 posted on 06/24/2012 10:20:34 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: neverdem
junk science used by tobacco companies

He doesn't mean the junk science of second hand smoke. That's funny.

10 posted on 06/24/2012 10:24:16 PM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way...)
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To: neverdem
Even Galileo capitulated when confronted with the received wisdom of the church.

In those days, even Galileo couldn't, and wouldn't, survive religious "wisdom." Neither could Joan of Arc.

11 posted on 06/24/2012 10:26:03 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: neverdem
Even Galileo capitulated...

Galileo didn't capitulate. He promised the bishops that he wouldn't publish anything controversial for a certain period of time.

Then he published a book saying that tides are caused by the earth spinning. He didn't believe that the moon's gravity caused tides in spite of the evidence.

12 posted on 06/24/2012 10:27:02 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: neverdem

This guy’s problem is confusing political science, social science and economics with science. These disciplines use scientific tools, but they address problems unsuited to solutions with the rigor typically associated with the “hard sciences” or what we know of as the traditional physical sciences.

Too many disciplines suffer from “paradigm envy” in relation to the “hard sciences” - they think if they can master statistics and other traditional scientific tools they can make conclusions as definitive and consequential as those associated with physics and chemistry. But they’re generally operating with data which is tangled up with enormous error bars and numerous confounders - and it’s in that sense that they need a good bit more humility.


14 posted on 06/24/2012 10:43:44 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: neverdem

“Any inquiry might be the search for a better metaphor. Indeed, what we often think of as “fictional” often does a better job with facts. There may be more truth in a single poem, play, or novel than might be found in a thousand tedious scientific papers; which probably explains why good art has so many repeat customers.”

I have trouble with this. Start down this path and you get I, Rigoberta Menchu (sp?), a falsified left-wing screed posing as a true story but known to be false and still taught in colleges because it is true in spirit.

Science may be tedious. But if done properly can reveal actual truths about the stuff we live in.


16 posted on 06/24/2012 11:15:32 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: neverdem
"Luther and Calvin promoted predestination, the devil's influence, and anti-Semitism at the expense of reason, choice, and free will."
There are enough theological, philosophical and epistemological errors in that statement by itself to prove that G. Murphy Donovan himself does not know what he does not know.

Cordially,

21 posted on 06/25/2012 5:39:58 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: neverdem

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/dysonf07/dysonf07_index.html


23 posted on 06/25/2012 6:05:35 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: neverdem
Aliens Cause Global Warming (Michael Crichton)

It's a pdf but my Firefox 9 had no trouble opening it up.

It's a very important lecture on "consensus" in science and he does mention how it worked in the second-hand-smoke junk science debacle.

24 posted on 06/25/2012 6:12:33 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: neverdem
Ah, I thought this article was going to address the phenomenon of people who learn a little bit about a subject, and think they understand it better than the experts (i.e., those who've spent years studying that subject). But it's a bit different--it seems to touch more on pathological science than anything else.

He criticizes the traditional brick building, or hypothesis based, approach to science and recommends more metaphors, more questions -- and more humility.

I wonder what the criticism is. A hypothesis is a question asked after making observations--is he recommending that we change the language? I'm not sure how metaphors would advance science, though. And I disagree that scientists need more humility. We try to make certain of our facts, but certainty is not arrogance (although some view it that way).

37 posted on 06/26/2012 3:58:54 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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