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Are we sure that dad who beat his daughter’s molester to death was engaged in self-defense?
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/13/texas-civil-rights-group-are-we-sure-that-dad-who-beat-his-daughters-molester-to-death-was-engaged-in-self-defense/ ^

Posted on 06/13/2012 5:25:29 PM PDT by chessplayer

Via the Blaze. Four words, my friends: Trial of the century.

"James Harrington, director of the Texas Civil Rights Project, an Austin-based nonprofit group, questioned the father’s decision to “summarily execute” the alleged molester without due process."

“Assuming it’s true that this guy was molesting the daughter, and we don’t know what exactly happened at this point, he would then have the right to defend [her], and hit him enough to have him stop,” Harrington told FoxNews.com. “But you cannot summarily execute him, even though I can understand the anger he would have.”

"Without specific knowledge of the case, Harrington said he was “surprised” that the girl’s father had not been already charged."

Harrington continued: “The question is: When does it move beyond self-defense?”

That’s what I was getting at in last night’s post about the difference between self-defense and punishment. Self-defense entitles you to neutralize your attacker; once he’s been neutralized, you’re not really defending yourself anymore, you’re just kicking the crap out of him. Imagine that the dad here saw his daughter being molested and knocked the guy unconscious with one right hook to the jaw. Boom — he’s neutralized. If he continues to beat him after that in a blind rage, that’s more like voluntary manslaughter than self-defense. More from the Christian Post:


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1 posted on 06/13/2012 5:25:34 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Something abut this story just doesn’t sound right.


2 posted on 06/13/2012 5:28:55 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: chessplayer
"Without specific knowledge of the case, Harrington said he was “surprised” that the girl’s father had not been already charged."

More anti-gun, Socialist claptrap. The S.O.B. doesn't know the facts, but is "surprised" the father has not been charged. Verdict first, facts never (believing is seeing)...standard leftist B.S.

3 posted on 06/13/2012 5:29:40 PM PDT by twister881
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To: chessplayer

I suppose you could stand there and berate the felled blighter to your heart’s content, while the police came. But even that’s risky, if there is a dispute about how the blighter was felled.


4 posted on 06/13/2012 5:29:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: chessplayer

TO: Texas Civil Rights Project

FROM: Me

Please fall off the face of the Earth ASAP.

P.S. Some people “need killin”. Toddler molesters are some of those people.


5 posted on 06/13/2012 5:29:58 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: chessplayer

No friggin’ way this guy is convicted.


6 posted on 06/13/2012 5:30:14 PM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV))
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To: chessplayer

Was it self defense when the Fla cops shot the face eater?


7 posted on 06/13/2012 5:33:44 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: chessplayer

Pin a medal on the father’s chest, and send a message to would-be-child-molesters and rapists that this is the fate that awaits them.


8 posted on 06/13/2012 5:35:09 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: chessplayer

Sure sounds like this is speculation about a story that hasn’t even been revealed.


9 posted on 06/13/2012 5:36:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: chessplayer

It becomes a bit of a pragmatic issue. Leave the molester alive, and he sues. Or he molests again. Both kidnapping and offending little ones are capitol offenses in scripture.

I have many daughters. Were I to be in the jury on this case, I would find myself leaning hard in one direction.


10 posted on 06/13/2012 5:37:12 PM PDT by lurk
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To: chessplayer

He could claim temporary insanity. I know I’d have gone craze if it had happened to me.

Now, the question is was the girl examined and were there signs of a molestation? If yes, the man should be given a medal. If no, then the investigation must determine if there was a problem between the two men.


11 posted on 06/13/2012 5:39:01 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Grifin, FAMILY GUY)
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To: Terry Mross
Now, the question is was the girl examined and were there signs of a molestation? If yes, the man should be given a medal. If no, then the investigation must determine if there was a problem between the two men

Perhaps the father may have caught the dirtbag in the act (the guy fondling his daughter) but before “penetration.”

Should the father had waited for it to be “rape-rape?”

12 posted on 06/13/2012 5:42:40 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: chessplayer

The father’s immediate goal was, I assume, to have the molester stop, plus we can assume the father was angry beyond belief. I have read that if you hit someone in the head (whether with your fists or some object) hard enough to knock them out cold, you are running a risk of actually killing them. The father probably smacked him (with fists or object) until the guy stopped moving. And, oops, now the guy’s dead.

Given what the perp was doing, I am completely on the father’s side. I wish all molesters realized that their activities might end in summary death. I think there would be a lot less molestations everywhere if people thought they’d die from it.


13 posted on 06/13/2012 5:46:00 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: Krankor

If this guy WAS actually molesting the little girl, then the father did the right thing.

Of course, the question is: can that be objectively determined? Or are we just going on the Father’s word? If the latter, that raises some issues. For example, was it possible for the whole thing to be staged.....?


14 posted on 06/13/2012 5:46:23 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: chessplayer

If he had have had a gun in his hand at the time, and had seen the molestation and heard the screams as described he could have shot off every round in the weapon and have been justified right?


15 posted on 06/13/2012 5:46:41 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: chessplayer

The Christian Post, the Texas Civil Rights Project, and anyone who in any way feels this father should be charged for killing the scumbag who was molesting his daughter can kiss my lilly white a$$.

If that father had dragged the scumbag outside, strung him up by his balls and then left him to die slowly, I still wouldn’t charge him — in fact, I would award him at least 10% of the cost savings resulting from the fact they didn’t have to pay to incarcerate the bastard or try him.

If anything, this was homicide in the public interest.


16 posted on 06/13/2012 5:48:42 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Mathews

I totally agree. More dads only wish they had come up on their daughter’s molester. Wasn’t there even a case where the perp was being flown somewhere and the dad shot him at the airport and was freed by the jury


17 posted on 06/13/2012 5:54:11 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: CCGuy

To: Texas Civil Rights Project

From: Me

I

don’t

care.


18 posted on 06/13/2012 5:54:36 PM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: lurk

“I have many daughters. Were I to be in the jury on this case, I would find myself leaning hard in one direction.”

I was called for jury duty in a date rape case. The defense attorney was questioning each prospective juror. When he learned that I have three daughters, was a former Marine captain and Vietnam vet he said, “You are dismissed”.

I wonder why?


19 posted on 06/13/2012 5:54:36 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: chessplayer

No matter how many variables, the best potential outcome in these cases is ALWAYS that the child-molester is removed from ever again walking the earth. A bullet, a bashed skull, throttled, whatever it takes. There is an innocent child out there in the future who will never know, but will be a most blessed beneficiary of such actions.


20 posted on 06/13/2012 5:55:51 PM PDT by greene66
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