Posted on 05/16/2012 5:58:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
Serious question. What time is it? My webtv says 5:00am yet I am on EDT, 9:oo am. Yopur post on FR says about 5:56 last time I checked.
Thankfully, we do not elect a President based on the popular vote so I don't really look at it as throwing away my vote.
As for the rest of the ballot, I will definitely vote for the closest thing to a Tea Party candidate we have to choose from all the way down to Dog Catcher.
Naive in the extreme. Liberals may only represent 30% of the population but they are extremely cohesive.
In any race with more than one or two other parties any coalition of organized labor, public employees and welfare queens will dominate until the wheels come off.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2871012/posts?page=1341#1341
where I suggested that a protest vote against the GOP-e might be possible in ULTRA-blue California and by inference other solid blue states, but wouldn't be wise in a battleground state.
We’re going to haveta hold RINORomney’s feet to the fire in order to hold him to the st raight and narrow.
We have to bend him to the Right.
At least we know he’s bendable.
I’d go after the Fedgov with a chainsaw, but that’s me.
Maybe an attempt to suppress conservative votes?
As for third, fourth, etc., parties, you need a "second" one before you can start on that list.
Our problem is not the lack of a large third party, we lack a third, fourth, fifth and sixth party. We need parties that show every shade of our political beliefs instead of allowing just two parties to encompass our political philosophies.
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Naive in the extreme. Liberals may only represent 30% of the population but they are extremely cohesive.
In any race with more than one or two other parties any coalition of organized labor, public employees and welfare queens will dominate until the wheels come off.
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Agreed. One only needs to look at Europe to see the results of multi-party systems.
I posted the article at 7:58:00 AM CST. It is 8:17 CST right now. I think it depends on what your setting is. I have mine set to CST. Perhaps you want to change yours to EST
“However, being a conservative first and a Republican second, I cannot vote for Mitt Romney in good conscience.”
Yeah, I said the same thing about John McCain in 2008 and look what happened. I am voting for Romney then taking a long shower afterwards to clean off the ick.
Thanks for this thread.
My thoughts exactly; there are more local races that matter. BJ Clinton was in office for eight years, but his damage was limited to the first 2 by people voting in a Congress that could contain him.
TEA Party is about basically one idea and that was TAXED Enough Already, and that Enough is Enough, and that since so much has already been taken away that we hold dear we will not compromise one more interest for the sake of political give and take.
Ron Paul is also about fiscal responsibility embodied in opposition to the FED in a nutshell, yet somehow his supporters at the meeting I went to are in lock step over Obama's support of Gays, e.g., they do not care about the social context of the political spectrum.
My interests are economic, political (Geo in context) and military based on a cold war reality that Peach through Security allowed countries such as Germany, Japan and South Korea to prosper in the seas of communism and socialism.
Your answer in my estimation is that you are lost in the Big Tent GOP and DNC.
The solution is tie yourself in activism and personal effort to ensure a splinter group such as TEA or PAUL grows and slowly overtakes the main party (an example of which is Chicago politics starting with the Race Riots of the 67-68, folks like Hillary defending the Black Panthers, Oprah W. and finally Barrack ascending to primacy over the DNC with a liberal brand of socialist black thug power).
The TEA Party continues to target the most egregious affronts to conservatism within the GOP and PAUL has built a growing constituency of renewable voters and supports with each of the last three elections. TEA will eventually overtake the mainstream GOP and PAUL will eventually prosper if his supporters embrace social conservative issues rather than parroting the liberal social democrats.
Rebuttal: In this presidential election, even in California, a vote for the Republican DOES matter. California has joined the cabal of states who will give their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. It’s arguably unconstitutional (I forget exactly why, states may not enter into deals with other states?) but right now it’s CA law.
They want to have it both ways in case it’s a repeat of 2004, where Gore, in one of the many recounts, arguably got more popular votes than Bush. (But if the opposite happens this year and Romney wins only because of such a scheme, you can bet your bottom dollar that CA will make it Job One to repeal it.)
Let me say it again: in CA and some other liberal states, this year, a vote for the Republican candidate matters!
If the author's article catches on, then there are only a few states where your vote doesn't matter. And Texas isn't one of them, nor is Oregon or West Virginia.
The only states where your vote doesn't matter are the deep blue and deep red states: Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, Connecticut, New York, District of Columbia, California, Hawaii and Utah, Oklahoma, Alabama and Mississippi
Unfortunately I am in a swing state and have to hold my nose.
Well, I voted for the Libertarian for pres in 1988. This because Ron Paul was my fraternity house roomate. Since then I have become almost libertarian, Stossle fan.
What a joke - you are so right about donw ticket. Take a look at the mjor cities of TX. They all have democRATS in control. A gay woman in Houston, Austin even elects democRATS to run their city attorney and Dallas comes up with a republican every 10 years when the budgets and services are all a mess.
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