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To: Pinkbell

In all fairness, the Paul backers were behaving themselves for the most part, and they were clearly the majority in the room, until Josh Romney lit a fire under them.

To explain why this annoyed them so much, is because they had put in the work at the ground level, as they have in several states, to insure that, no matter the popular vote in those states, the delegates actually sent to the convention are Paul supporters. This is not underhanded or cheating in any way, just that they took the time to learn the rules in each state, so as to maximize their effect at the convention, no matter who they are supposed to support on the first ballot.

But this meant that at this meeting, there were two different slates of delegate candidates. Those who are supporters of Romney, many of whom didn’t even bother to attend, and were just filling the role of “somebody” who would go to the convention if they were chosen, to cast a “whatever” ballot for Romney; and dedicated and determined Paul supporters. People who care and have worked hard.

And Josh Romney then told this room full of Paul supporters that, “for party unity”, they should elect a slate of Romney supporters instead of going to the convention themselves.

This is little more than the sneering contempt that the onerous Mitt Romney has shown for both Paul supporters *and* conservatives and their ideas, from the very start.

“I don’t like you, and I don’t need you. You are unimportant to me, but you *have* to vote for me because I am the chosen one, and if you don’t, Obama will be reelected.”

To hell with that a-hole. While I do not personally support Ron Paul, though I like a lot of his ideas that overlap with conservative ideas, that only he has the chutzpah to say; I think that conservatives will owe him a GIANT favor if his people can block the onerous Romney from getting the nomination, so that a conservative can.

And that’s important, because by themselves, Paul’s supporters can’t get him the nomination. But just about *any* conservative would be a better nominee and president.

This is really about saving our country. If Ron Paul’s people can help conservatives do that, then they are our brothers.


40 posted on 05/13/2012 1:48:31 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

This is really about saving our country. If Ron Paul’s people can help conservatives do that, then they are our brothers.


I would never talk bad about Paul ever again!


46 posted on 05/13/2012 1:59:04 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

RP should never have been allowed to run on the GOP ticket, because he’s a libertarian. However, that said, the reason he’s done as well as he has is because he actually has ideas (and some of them overlap with conservative ideas).

The only other one who had ideas was Newt Gingrich, but people like Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter turned him into a laughing stock as soon as they could, because he represented a genuine threat to the GOP-e, while RP was obviously a flake candidate.

Also, I think if RP hadn’t run, many of his young supporters would have gone to Gingrich (possibly first to Perry, but Perry unfortunately was never able to fight back well enough when the attacks started). So in many ways, the person we have to thank for this miserable situation, in addtion to the GOP honchos who annointed Romney or were bought by him right out of the gate, is Ron Paul, who confused and diluted the Tea Party vote.

That said, if he can derail Romney, which I still think is possible, we will owe him a great debt of gratitude. Romney stinks almost as badly as Obama, and the “almost” is not enough to make me vote for Romney. I’ll vote down the ticket but not for Romney.

If we can get some good Senators in there who will halt the rubber stamping of Obama’s programs and actually fight for the separation of powers, that might be the best we can do, and it might really make a difference.


53 posted on 05/13/2012 2:20:04 PM PDT by livius
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
And they expected Josh Romney to say, what, exactly? Don't vote for my dad? If they were surprised by that, they're certainly showing their ignorance. I don't think Romney supporters would be shocked if they saw Rand Paul give a speech telling people to vote for Ron Paul.
87 posted on 05/13/2012 3:31:24 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
“I don’t like you, and I don’t need you. You are unimportant to me, but you *have* to vote for me because I am the chosen one, and if you don’t, Obama will be reelected.”

Thank you for your excellent explanation of what happened at GCU!

And thank you for the above quote. You have distilled the essence of the GOPe's attitude down to two sentences.

104 posted on 05/13/2012 3:52:41 PM PDT by GBA (Read: The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
This is an excellent summary of the situation, from what I have heard and read:

Quoting yefragetuwrabrumuy's post in it's entirety:

"In all fairness, the Paul backers were behaving themselves for the most part, and they were clearly the majority in the room, until Josh Romney lit a fire under them. "

" To explain why this annoyed them so much, is because they had put in the work at the ground level, as they have in several states, to insure that, no matter the popular vote in those states, the delegates actually sent to the convention are Paul supporters. This is not underhanded or cheating in any way, just that they took the time to learn the rules in each state, so as to maximize their effect at the convention, no matter who they are supposed to support on the first ballot."

" But this meant that at this meeting, there were two different slates of delegate candidates. Those who are supporters of Romney, many of whom didn’t even bother to attend, and were just filling the role of “somebody” who would go to the convention if they were chosen, to cast a “whatever” ballot for Romney; and dedicated and determined Paul supporters. People who care and have worked hard."

" And Josh Romney then told this room full of Paul supporters that, “for party unity”, they should elect a slate of Romney supporters instead of going to the convention themselves."

" This is little more than the sneering contempt that the onerous Mitt Romney has shown for both Paul supporters *and* conservatives and their ideas, from the very start."

" 'I don’t like you, and I don’t need you. You are unimportant to me, but you *have* to vote for me because I am the chosen one, and if you don’t, Obama will be reelected.' "

" To hell with that a-hole. While I do not personally support Ron Paul, though I like a lot of his ideas that overlap with conservative ideas, that only he has the chutzpah to say; I think that conservatives will owe him a GIANT favor if his people can block the onerous Romney from getting the nomination, so that a conservative can."

" And that’s important, because by themselves, Paul’s supporters can’t get him the nomination. But just about *any* conservative would be a better nominee and president."

" This is really about saving our country. If Ron Paul’s people can help conservatives do that, then they are our brothers."

147 posted on 05/13/2012 5:40:40 PM PDT by txnuke (Drip Drip Drip goes the eligibility questions. Vet the candidates.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Paul supporters would like a conservative even less than Paul. They often seem to be beyond labels, but strangely fall into a leftist camp, at least by their actions. People have been putting up with him in previous years too. They are crazed zealots who support a MAN, not anything else. It is like a cult. They go after people personally in ways that are dangerous, and he is an evil man who has no problem with the likes of rabid racists and anti-Semites supporting him.


176 posted on 05/13/2012 7:45:31 PM PDT by PghBaldy (First MADD and "drunk" checkpoints, now TSA and "terrorist" checkpoints, what next?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Right! Here is some more food for thought:

First Bachmann wins the Iowa Straw Poll. Then Romney wins the early count of the Iowa Caucuses, and within a shake of a lamb’s tail Santorum wins in the late count.

Now an FR article predicts that Ron Paul will have the majority of voting delegates from Iowa.

If Paul’s plan to cut 1 TRILLION dollars in year-to-year Federal spending, AND abolish 5 Federal Departments are the main reasons for Iowa Delegates to thaw out their opposition to Paul, then it might later be said that “as Iowa goes, so goes the Nation.”

BTW, “T” is for Texas, Tampa and those of us who are TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!”

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Here are some more reasons to vote for Ron Paul in the remaining Primary elections:

1.) It will drive the Liberal Agenda Media (LAM) and their Rove-style political consultants NUTS!

2.) It will deny statistical support to Romney.

3.) It could result in an OPEN Convention in Tampa.

4.) It would irritate the snot out of the GOP-E.

5.) It will put the GOP-E on notice that we think that their RINO Party has done NOTHING since we sent 89 TEA Party men and women to the US Congress in 2010.

6.) An OPEN Convention is our ONLY chance of a successful DUMP ROMNEY campaign.

7.) A superb, true “Dark Horse” Republican Nominee needs an OPEN Convention to replace Romney.

BTW, did I mention the sheer joy of watching the GOP-Endorsers publicly eating crow?

___________________

What the Liberal Agenda Media has never figured out, is that the 2012 National Election will be the last National Election where Campaign topics other than the National Debt will be debated again.

IOW, when the grim reaper of financial reality forces Federal Politicians in “both” parties to pay the US Bond owners before payments to our Entitlement recipients, it will terminate discussion on the main topics that we chatter about so far in 2012.

This National election is all about the money, your grandchildren’s descendant’s money.

Ron Paul is to old and to disliked as being different from what most voters picture a US President to look and sound like to win the Nomination.

HOWEVER, Ron Paul as an Anbody-but-Romney candidate in Tampa is our last, best chance to have an OPEN Convention in Tampa, and for that alone he deserves our Primary voter support.

Paul has soldiered on through this entire Primary Campaign. Let us help him establish a beachhead on the Shores of Tampa!

My Favorite Dark Horse was R Sc US Senator Jim DeMint, but I have been told by those in the know that Jim will not run for POTUS.

Fortunately, there are many other great potential nominees who would be far more acceptable to us than any of the Primary Candidates so far, but a “Dump Romney” action requires an OPEN Convention.

For those who object to Paul as a Nominee, then treat him as a tired old political soldier who will, with our help, win the Battle to achieve an OPEN Convention in Tampa.

THEN the delegates can win the War, and choose the best Nominee to solve our National Debt Problem.

Remember, this election is all about the money, your grandchildren’s descendant’s money - - - - .

What is the best way that you can use your Primary vote to help the financial future of YOUR descendants?


183 posted on 05/13/2012 9:03:47 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The Paulites were not the majority, just the loudest and the most obnoxious.

Romney was not my first choice either but he will be the nominee and he is 100X better than the present occupant of the White House.

And we were not rude to the lady who spoke for Paul. These people have been disruptive to our party for the last two years in my county. They are rude and crude and never follow the rules.


201 posted on 05/14/2012 5:33:13 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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