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Secret U.S. program releases high-level insurgents in exchange for pledges of peace
Washington Post ^ | kevin Sieff

Posted on 05/06/2012 7:51:59 PM PDT by VanShuyten

The United States has for several years been secretly releasing high-level detainees from a military prison in Afghanistan as part of negotiations with insurgent groups, a bold effort to quell violence but one that U.S. officials acknowledge poses substantial risks.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; afghanistanpeace; appeasement; catchandrelease; obamasfault; obamateur; peaceforprisoners; releaseterrorists; taliban
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This is an incredible story about how Pres. Obama is trying to "buy" peace in Afghanistan by releasing some truly bad guys.

He's also done it in such a way that not many would know about it, and he refuses to even say if he's the one who decided to do it.

"U.S. officials would not say how many detainees have been released under the program, though they said such cases are relatively rare. The program has existed for several years, but officials would not confirm exactly when it was established."

Lots more in the article.

1 posted on 05/06/2012 7:52:17 PM PDT by VanShuyten
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To: VanShuyten

Appeasement is always a winner when it comes to dealing with radical extremists who want to subjugate and destroy us. // sarcasm


2 posted on 05/06/2012 7:56:51 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: VanShuyten

We are so augured


3 posted on 05/06/2012 7:57:09 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: VanShuyten
TREASON!!
4 posted on 05/06/2012 7:58:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This quack in the White House embraces the terrorist mooselimb cult. These people in Washington are nothing but a cluster fluge of feckless crapweamsels.


5 posted on 05/06/2012 8:04:01 PM PDT by shankbear (If this mandate can stand, what will be next? Forced to buy certain cars, clothes, food?)
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To: VanShuyten
They must promise to give up violence — and U.S. officials warn them that if they are caught attacking American troops, they will be detained once again.

I think I get it now. Our foreign policy is being run by Monty Python.

6 posted on 05/06/2012 8:04:57 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: VanShuyten

Crap like this, Egypt handed to Islamists and Israel in jeopardy, Russia threatening to attack NATO ...

This leftist idiot Obama just might get us all killed.


7 posted on 05/06/2012 8:07:49 PM PDT by Williams
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To: VanShuyten

Mudslimes would never lie, even though the queeranus commands them to.


8 posted on 05/06/2012 8:09:45 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: vox_freedom

Words fail me...

I don’t even think Carter was this fricking STOOPID!


9 posted on 05/06/2012 8:12:19 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: VanShuyten

Danegeld works for a while, until you run out of geld — or in this case, islamopiggies.


10 posted on 05/06/2012 8:12:26 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: VanShuyten
Well if it's in the Post, and there was any chance at all of belittling and ridiculing Bush, or of giving Obama any cover at all, they would have done so.
11 posted on 05/06/2012 8:13:58 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: VanShuyten

The monsters he releases will strike at us again one day and will never buy us any good will.
There is no changing the nature of this enemy.

Obama is a fool.


12 posted on 05/06/2012 8:14:44 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: VanShuyten
...a bold effort to quell violence...

Strangest use I've ever seen of the word "bold". But hey, it's all doubleplusgood.

13 posted on 05/06/2012 8:16:03 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


14 posted on 05/06/2012 8:23:20 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Williams

This leftist idiot Obama just might get us all killed.


We’ve never been in more danger. Never.


15 posted on 05/06/2012 8:24:14 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: VanShuyten

And the Surge in Afghanistan was for what? Let’s look at the timing, from;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/feinstein-rogers-say-taliban-stronger-since-surge/2012/05/06/gIQALbQh6T_story.html

The leaders of the House and Senate intelligence committees said Sunday they believe that the Taliban has grown stronger since President Obama sent 33,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan in 2010.


16 posted on 05/06/2012 8:25:18 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Ronin

Carter was indeed STOOPID, incompetent and naive. Obama knows what is he is doing and even scary in that he knows precisely what he is doing and destroying America in the process.


17 posted on 05/06/2012 8:25:18 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: VanShuyten

This is a fool’s errand. At best, it will be negotiating from a point of weakness in the eyes of an intractable enemy and an ineffectual and corrupt ally (i.e. Karzai and his government). At worst, it is giving aid to that enemy.

In either case, two things come immediately to mind. First and most obviously, the released prisoners will likely go right back to what they were doing before - trying to kill U.S. and allied forces, promises or not. Secondly, those that do honor their agreement are likely to do so with the intent to periodically demand concessions, aid, or other payoffs to remain “peaceful”.


18 posted on 05/06/2012 8:26:38 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: VanShuyten
The operation to kill bin Laden was a so-called 'gutsy call' by the CiC that they'd have us to believe materialized out of thin air in the short time Obama's been President.

However, this controversial exchange program 'has been in existence for years.'

Interesting.

19 posted on 05/06/2012 8:27:00 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: VanShuyten
a bold effort to quell violence but one that U.S. officials acknowledge poses substantial risks.

A 100% chance of something happening is never a "risk"; it's called "a sure thing".

Appeasement is never "bold". It is always "chickensh!t".

Let's assume (yeah, I know) that there was actual thought behind this "bold" plan. What do the designers think is going to happen? Achmed is going to go back home and renounce his ingrained hatred of the "Great Satan"?

Even if he was as stupid as the crafters of this ingenious program, and was brainwashed into giving up his jihad, do they believe his fellow Muslims would listen to his pleas to stop fighting and lay down their arms??

Who's driving this @#$% bus??

20 posted on 05/06/2012 8:29:59 PM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: Billthedrill
Yep.


21 posted on 05/06/2012 8:33:11 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: VanShuyten

People who believe this crap should watch this:

Three Things About Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w


22 posted on 05/06/2012 8:37:49 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: VanShuyten

Nobody can be this stupid.

This is just another element in Obama’s fixation on the destruction of America.


23 posted on 05/06/2012 8:39:17 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: VanShuyten

The compost says “several years.” Did Bush do this? Or are they saying it to suggest Bush did it and give cover to Obama?


24 posted on 05/06/2012 8:39:17 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: VanShuyten

How is that working out for them?

Why are our troops still over there?


25 posted on 05/06/2012 8:40:01 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Son House

10/2/2011
http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/story/2011-10-02/ieds-traced-to-pakistan/50638686/1

More than 80% of the IEDs are homemade explosives using calcium ammonium nitrate fertilizer produced in Pakistan, said Navy Capt. Douglas Borrebach, deputy director for resources and requirements at the Pentagon’s Joint IED Defeat Organization.

...Sen. Robert Casey, D-Pa., met with top civilian and military leaders in Pakistan in August to urge them to stop the flow of bomb-making materials into Afghanistan. They promised to help, but did not reveal a sense of urgency, Casey told USA TODAY after the trip.

10/5/20
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/afghanistan/2010-10-05-afghanistan-amputations_N.htm

The number of U.S. soldiers who have suffered amputations in Afghanistan has increased sharply over last year as more troops move into Taliban territory, according to Army data.

...The chief cause of the injuries are improvised explosive devices — or IEDs — that are planted in the ground or along roads, according to the International Security Assistance Force, which oversees military operations in Afghanistan.


26 posted on 05/06/2012 8:42:00 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

1/26/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-25/IEDs-afghanistan/52795302/1

The number of improvised explosive devices that were cleared or detonated rose to 16,554 from 15,225, an increase of 9%, according to data obtained by USA TODAY. In 2009, total IED “events,” as they are known, came to 9,304.

Insurgent reliance on IEDs as their No. 1 weapon meant a rise in concussions and severe wounds to U.S. servicemembers who have been operating on foot to root out Taliban fighters in remote areas.


27 posted on 05/06/2012 8:44:12 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: VanShuyten
Crap, I know Dummycrats are dumb, but this dumb?

You know this is going to bite us in the a$$.

Well done Obama, you effed up the economy and now you effed up the WOT. You have earned the title President Dumb@$$. I congratulate you.

28 posted on 05/06/2012 8:52:37 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: edpc
However, this controversial exchange program 'has been in existence for years.'

I'm suspicious of that wording. I wouldn't be surprised if the "journalist" wrote it that way to make it sound like this program was put in place by Bush. Yet it could have been done under Obama's watch, going back two or three YEARS.

29 posted on 05/06/2012 8:54:38 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: VanShuyten

Ugh.


30 posted on 05/06/2012 9:00:13 PM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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and U.S. officials warn them that if they are caught attacking American troops, they will be detained once again.

I bet they are quaking in their boots, thinking about that.

31 posted on 05/06/2012 9:09:41 PM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: VanShuyten
The United States has for several years been secretly releasing high-level detainees from a military prison in Afghanistan as part of negotiations with insurgent groups, a bold effort to quell violence but one that U.S. officials acknowledge poses substantial risks.

I believe that passes for "offering aid and comfort to the enemy."

32 posted on 05/06/2012 9:57:04 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: VanShuyten

He has a death wish.


33 posted on 05/06/2012 10:25:56 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: VanShuyten
"They must promise to give up violence — and U.S. officials warn them that if they are caught attacking American troops, they will be detained once again. . Everyone agrees they are guilty of what they have done and should remain in detention. Everyone agrees that these are bad guys."

When reading this psychotic thinking, I just couldn't help but think, "What would Patton and Reagan think of this?" . . It's as if Obama is inviting the Taliban to attack. .

34 posted on 05/06/2012 10:39:14 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Zeppelin

Yet it’s true that Bush did release terrorists from Gitmo who went on to work in Al Queda cells and plot terrorist attacks. The idea that our current Great Leader would still be doing this after we already know detainee releases failed under Bush is disgusting and a disgrace.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/29/AR2009122902289.html?wprss=rss_world


35 posted on 05/06/2012 10:42:15 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: VanShuyten
"---Unlike at Guantanamo, releasing prisoners from the Parwan detention center, the only American military prison in Afghanistan, does not require congressional approval and can be done clandestinely [by the Executive]."


36 posted on 05/06/2012 10:43:15 PM PDT by henbane
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To: Dogbert41

You are right.


37 posted on 05/06/2012 10:47:24 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: VanShuyten

Are these really pledges or are they absentee voter applications?


38 posted on 05/06/2012 11:05:52 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: G Larry
Nobody can be this stupid.

This is just another element in Obama’s fixation on the destruction of America.

BTTT.

39 posted on 05/06/2012 11:20:17 PM PDT by snowsislander (Please, America, no more dog-eating Kenyan cokeheads in the Oval Office.)
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To: Son House

Don’t get me started on Jieddo


40 posted on 05/06/2012 11:23:50 PM PDT by superfries
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To: Names Ash Housewares

“Obama is a fool.”

Maybe he’s doing it to gain friends and influence people?


41 posted on 05/06/2012 11:29:55 PM PDT by Nacho Bidnith
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To: VanShuyten

Looks like Obama’s going to create the excuse he needs to close GITMO; “It’s EMPTY!”


42 posted on 05/06/2012 11:48:55 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: doug from upland

More than 2 years is “several years”. You’re correct in that it’s worded to protect Obama by implicating Bush.


43 posted on 05/06/2012 11:51:05 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Billthedrill
But next time, they get the COMFY CHAIR!

We need our people out of Afghanistan NOW!

44 posted on 05/07/2012 2:29:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: VanShuyten

Blame Bush.


45 posted on 05/07/2012 3:01:36 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: VanShuyten
OK...here is how it is.

We are at war with these s.o.b.'s.

The mission is is to kill as many of these s.o.b.'s as possible.

Is that not clear?
46 posted on 05/07/2012 3:02:56 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: VanShuyten
Don't tell me. It's another 'sting' like Fast and Furious....

Oh, what sting?

47 posted on 05/07/2012 3:46:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: edpc
The operation to kill bin Laden was a so-called 'gutsy call' by the CiC...

Hey! Anybody seen the body? Anybody?

48 posted on 05/07/2012 4:00:21 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: vox_freedom
"Appeasement is always a winner when it comes to dealing with radical extremists who want to subjugate and destroy us."

I'm afraid even your sarcasm doesn't go far enough in the case of Obama and his ilk.

The word is not "appeasement" but outright "collaboration" - for the goal is NOT "peace" and coexisting but the destruction of what he & his ilk call the "privileges" & power of America and white/non-third-world Americans. Obama's entire biography and all his past associations speak to no other purpose.

He has and will always stand with Black against White, Muslim against Christian, the 3rd World against the West, global socialism against capitalism, etc.. Everything else that Obama and his propagandists, in and out of government, tell you to the contrary are strategic lies.

49 posted on 05/07/2012 4:13:47 AM PDT by drpix
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To: VanShuyten

What this is all about is the Obama administration demonstrating they can be a good “go along, get along” kinda outfit ....a real player in coming world government.

They are demonstrating they are “big enough” to trash the “region they rule” for the “bigger picture”. None of these parochial local sentiments.


50 posted on 05/07/2012 4:19:23 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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