This thread could get interesting.
Can you elaborate on what equipment upgrades or replacements are necessary? I contribute about $100/year but might send an extra payment if capital improvements are necessary.
I am not voting for Romney under any circumstances. I do not care who you vote for, but please don’t attack people for refusing to vote for a leftist traitor RINO.
NUTS!
Those of you who won't settle for ABO, I'm listening.
There are a good many long-time members who are gone from this site - either of their own choosing or by expulsion. So many of them were reliable, well-reasoned posters who brought value to the forum and they helped build this place into what once was the preeminent conservative site on the web. When you engaged those people in discourse you learned something or you were given insight to a different viewpoint. And you really needed to frame your discussion accordingly, carefully. I won’t list names.
I miss that.
And then like any society I suppose, the flash mobs arrived. And discourse suffered. Remarks became more frequently hostile, judgmental and truncated. The hoodlums and gangs brought down real contributors and then danced around the corpse.
But, some of us grieved.
I'm more of a WTU myself, LZ'd at TY for being called a YUKI.
NUTS!
Bump for funding.
BTW, your request is getting drowned out, but I guess you knew this would get interesting. Thanks for reminding us to donate. We can squall like cats and still love this site!
Just curious, will the banned Romney supporters be reinstated?
It appears that Mitt and Obama have essentially the same agendas, but I should vote for Mitt because he’s the GOP candidate?
I don’t think so.
I can’t donate a lot, but I donated on my last payday and intend to again on my next payday since this FReepathon is going a bit long.
The two strands of Conservatism are talking past each other in our latest argument. We come from the two different places. One strand is one that places its priorities on the fiscal and foreign policy issues. It’s history in the GOP can be traced back to opposition to the New Deal back in the 1930’s. This is why my businessman grandfather was a Republican back in those days. For honesty’s sake, I place myself in this strand.
The other strand is the Social Conservatives. They enter the GOP picture around 1980. Prior they were part of the Democrat coalition.They accepted the premise of the New Deal . They were the ones who strongly supported Carter in 1976. Their disappointment with Carter and the social turmoil of the 60’s and 70’s pushed them into the GOP. However, social issues are center stage. They are not so much against big government in its’ organization, but in the Liberal’s use of it. I may be bold in stating that if Obamacare was instituted without abortion being included, their opposition to it would end.
The Social Conservatives see the Free Market Conservatives as money grubbing heathens. While the Free Market Conservatives see the Social Conservatives as religious extremist. This is a fact on how we see each other.
A good test would be who would you vote for in this hypothetical situation.
Candidate A - 100% social conservative on social issues , but left wing on economics.
Candidate B - Moderate to slightly liberal on the social issues, and 100% free market pro-business on the fiscal ones.
I personally would vote for Candidate B, how but others. Would be interesting to read the responses.
Link to Original Post:
Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
“My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he’s recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don’t trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we’re going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle. “
For full post, here is the link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2879805/posts
It's really tiring to have so many good conservative people being lied about and attacked over and over and over and over again with absolutely no repercussions.
If the Republican "Anybody but Obama" was a Koran thumping Muslim, would you campaign for him and vote for him out of your fear of another 4 years of Obama?
BTW who are the "religious bigots" on this forum? The ones who inform everyone about the strange beliefs and practices of Temple Worthy Mormons like Romney?
If you don't believe that Mormon doctrines, practices and beliefs are as weird as Mitt Romney appears when he is around ordinary people, then maybe the problem lies with you.
JR is not a RINO, but I think we should wait until after the convention before annointing Romney.
I honestly cannot vote for the man, because he’s a nanny-statist and his policies are exactly like Obama’s, his judicial and other appointment history as Gov of MA was something like 60% Dem (many of them radicals), and he’s a member of a creepy non-Christian cult that forced the Catholic Church in MA to go along with non-Catholic insurance policies (this wouldn’t happen now because we have stronger bishops).
However, that said, JR is no RINO, and this gives all of us a forum. DONATE!
That would be CINO.
Voting for Romney would be CINO.