Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
A brokered convention will only happen if, every non-Romney supporter, votes for a single candidate, who isn't Romney, doesn't matter which one, in the remaining primaries. Doesn't need to be the same one in each state, just within a state. This to take delegates away from Romney.
But if that extremely unlikely event should occur, I don't think any of the contenders would be a good choice. Has to be someone else that hasn't been tarred by other Republicans. He/she will get tarred enough by the media.
But, if Romney is the candidate, and loses, the Republican party will likely go the way of the Whigs. But it might not matter, since a long dark age will likely descend on the Republic.. and the world.
They have, they also won in the House races in '10.
As to your second statement, I suppose it depends on what you mean by "doctrinaire", but you're beginning to sound like the GOP-e types.
That might work. But maybe, we need to just do away with single party primaries. Have a free for all, with the top two or three vote getters going on to the General Election. Somewhat analogous to the Constitution's provisions for the case where no one gets a majority of the electoral vote.
The parties have entirely too much control over the entire process. The Constitution doesn't anticipate parties, maybe our elections under it, and the rules for Congressional operations shouldn't either.
Parties exist to elect candidates and then "share the wealth". Well, we are rapidly running out of wealth to share.
I'm well aware of the downsides to that approach, but keeping on doing what isn't working, and is actually hurting, doesn't seem an indication of intelligence either.
Texas was supposed to vote on Super Tuesday.. but a federal court intervened, and as of now we are supposed to vote on May 29, 2012, with any necessary runoffs to be held on July 31st.
Wonder if the situation would be different if the Texas primary, which contributes lots of delegates, had been held on Super Tuesday?
“We need to pool all our resources toward defeating Obama and then, after the election, we need to put all our effort into changing the RNC and getting conservatives ahead of the RINOS around the country.”
Exactly!
We need to clean house, and get rid of these limp wristed, knee knocking, effeminate, panty wetting, closet communists in the RNC.
No more pandering to the wishy washy “moderates” either..... I don’t care if hurts their feelings. Tough crap, this ain’t Burger King, and they sure as hell don’t deserve to have it “their way”.
The world today is ruled by harassed politicians absorbed in getting into office... or turning out the other man so that not much room is left for debating the great issues ...'on their merits.”
― Winston S. Churchill-
How about on every ballot we include "None of the above"........ what that is is 'a vote of no confidence in your government'.... I'm willing to bet that in this election between Romney and Obama, 'None of the Above' would win.
“Fractured conservative voteing is what gave us McCain, it gave us Romney. I don’t see any way to a different outcome 4 years from now.”
Don’t forget those open primaries where democrats crossed over to vote for weak candidates such as Juan McLame.
I am sorry I have just gotten around to weighing in on this thread...
Thank you, Jim, for this stand you now take. It is very reasonable and gracious.
Many who plan to “hold their nose” point out how they fear what Obama will do with four more years.
My vote will reflect my fear of God. I fear God much more than I fear Obama. Just the other day, I was referred to a video that asked Catholics to be values voters. I am not Catholic, but I do belong to the body of Christ, and if a person fears God, they know automatically how to vote.
I honestly believe that any **informed** person who would vote for Romney or Obama does not fear God. I believe they honestly think that playing the politics game of “who can win” is more important than honoring, respecting, and fearing God.
That may sound harsh, but the truth is, throughout the course of history, nations who fear God remain, and nations who refuse to fear God fall. We are going to fall because people who claim to be Christians are not 100% in the game.
What really amazes me, beyond the refusal to put God first, is the constant underestimation of God. As if God could not do anything with this tiny little world in the grand scope of eternal existence where the Great I Am is the single dweller?
What might actually happen if every person who CLAIMS to be a Christian, decided to actually BE A CHRISTIAN and refuse to vote for someone who supports abortion, homosexuality, polygamy, and greatest grievance of all— refusal to accept the deity of God?
What would happen is that God would take care of those people.
Who are we in America? Are we Christians or aren’t we. If we are, we vote that way, if we are not, we vote that way. There is really no gray area in the kingdom of God. There is right and wrong, good and evil, yes and no. Being on the fence is making a choice to stand with the devil. God knows that, whether the fence sitter recognizes it or not.
I love my Dear Father so greatly that I cannot stomach or comprehend ever casting a vote for a person who does not respect the Godhead and know the value of a nation led by that Godhead.
I implore all CHRISTIANS who are preparing to “hold their noses” and vote for Romney to prayerfully consider this passage and DARE to put their faith in God and not in politics.
II Kings 6:15-18.
How bout Cheney 2016? He’s got a new heart after all.
I want him to look at Obama the same way he did in 2009. Only from the other side of the platform.
“Are you running for President in 2016?”
If I had the money, I’d give it a try.
I’d break up government unions, because government employees do not deserve better benefits than the people they work for, especially when they for the most part do less work.
Abolish about 80% of the government agencies and the various commissions. Those that remain would be realigned and streamlined.
I’d simplify the tax code, and cut the corporate tax rates to 10% thus allowing people to keep more of their hard earned money and keeping jobs here.
I’d do away with all of these absurd government regulations especially those that hurt the job creators.
I’d push to have the committee on un-American activities reinstated, and go after groups such as code pink, and individuals such as george soros, karl rove, and bill ayers.
I’d push to impliment term limits. Even if I have to go to the people to have referendums in every state.
Ron Paul has to many enemies to win the Republican Nomination at an Open Convention in Tampa.
However, Ron Paul is one of the two keys, (Santorum being the other), to forcing an Open Convention in Tampa.
Ron Paul already has won 4 State Primaries, and needs to win just one more to qualify as a Nominee Candidate at the Tampa Convention.
This would greatly upset the GOP-E, but probably not Romney as he has always been clueless about how many voters really dislike him.
Although Ron Paul cannot win the Nomination in Tampa, he can along with our help create the proper environment for an OPEN CONVENTION in Tampa.
Then the Open Convention delegates can draft a REAL Republican.
Sort of a round-about way of bypassing the Romney/Obamalite/GOP-E sinking ship, but here is how I see it:
1.) Vote in large turnout numbers in the remaining Primaries, for Ron Paul as an ABR vote, (Anybody But Romney), especially if you vote in the May 29 Primary in Texas.
2.) Work and Lobby for an Open Convention.
3.) Draft a REAL Republican as the Republican Nominee.
An Open Convention will upset the Liberal Agenda Media, and their political consultants who already (in their minds) have Obama re-elected.
We need to draft a REAL Republican in 2012 and avoid the sorry Romney years if Romney beats Obama.
IMHO, Romney will loose by a hair to Obama which will require that Obama be immediately IMPEACHED in order to save our Republic.
Obama or Obamalite, the US Federal Government will not have it’s, and therefore our, financial house in order by 2016.
Thus, political resolution of the main problem: OVERSPENDING BY THE US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, may not be achievable in 2016.
Hence, it is IMPERATIVE that we have an OPEN Convention in Tampa so that a REAL Republican can be drafted, albeit kicking and screaming, to be the Republican Party Nominee for the Office of the President of the United States of America.
I have outlined above how voting for Ron Paul as a Primary wedge against Romney could lead to an Open Convention in Tampa.
Since Ron Paul cannot win the Nomination, he would serve as our last active best wedge hope of defeating Romney AND the GOP-E in an Open Convention.
Primary Candidate Ron Paul is the last active non-Romney Candidate left standing between the GOP-E’s Romney, (= probable loss to Obama in November), and an Open Convention of a Republican that can soundly defeat Obama.
A “win” over Obama is not enough, Obama MUST lose in a LANDSLIDE!!!!!!
NONE of the Primary Candidates have shown that they have that potential.
It is time for an Open Convention to choose the best Presidential Candidate.
It is time for us Conservatives to turn out in massive numbers in the remaining primaries, especially in the big electoral delegate states such as Texas, and vote for ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY!
Ron Paul needs only to win one more State Primary to qualify as a Nominee Candidate, and therefore is our best chance for an Open Convention to select a GREAT Nominee, such as Senator Jim DeMint.
I think a Real Republican would be our best choice, but first we must work to have an Open Convention in Tampa.
What say all of you?
In many cases the other, now dropped out, contenders are still on the primary ballots. Because they dropped out too late to be removed. A vote for them is as good a vote for Paul... if everyone in a given state votes for the same one. Doesn't have to be the same one in each state. It's just necessary to take the delegates away from Romney. But voting for Paul puts in Paul delegates, likely of similar mind. Remember the convention nominally writes the party platform. Normally it's a platform approved by the nominee... but that might not be so much the case if it was a brokered convention.
Thank you, JIm. I appreciate your wisdom and the direction that you give to FR and tea party activities
Why don't you call me a racist while you're at it?
"Doctrinaire conservative" means you're a conservative and you know why you're a conservative. There are not too many of that type about, even at this forum.
Bumping your post. Thank you, so much...
Thank you for that GREAT post.
Noted.
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